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Anyway, I bathed her as soon as I found her, and did the used motor oil thing as advised by two people with pretty good dog knowledge n experience. I didnt rinse it off, then days later I was told I was supposed 2 rinse it off after a while SMH. I didnt really like the idea of the oil so I started researching after I did it once.
I found out that it can do more harm than good, and I found the borax treatment, and then I found this site. I also gave her a dose of Revolution a few days afta I got her. The first Borax bath was on 4/22. I bathed her with sulfodene first and just poured the peroxide solution on her from her head down her back from a bottle. Needless 2 say, half of it was wasted and I doubt it was effective. The next 5 times so far, ive improved this bath process by far. I sponge her down all over paying attention 2 her bald/hot/redspots. I do her head n face, her eyes, she closes them anyway. I sponge and spray her undersides, and pour the last of it all on her. Then, I let her go NO DRYING. She acts like a retard 4 a while shakin n runnin round. She get a borax bath twice weekly 4now, every other time with an initial sulfodene shampoo/teatree oil soap bathe. 1 bottle of H2O2, two bottle full of water(use the empty peroxide bottle), and at least 3 tblsn of 20 mule borax till it wont dissolve nomore(and I shake it). I also mix 1part raw organic ACV (with the mothers) and enuff borax till saturated and spray her regularly, and rub her hotspots and baldspots with cottonballs w that. I also put cooking oil on the hot/bald/balding spots sometimes.
Sometimes I make a borax paste wit the H2O2 n water, or ACV n water and rub it on her bad spots. BTW, She doesnt really appreciate any of this 2much, especially the spraying.
I put a capfull ACV in her drinking water, and sometimes a pinch of borax 2. I hav her on groundmeat and liver wit sum veggies if I hav any. I season it n brown it a bit, so its not fully raw. If I dont have meat 4her, I give her Merrick or Wellness (canned preferably) Their ingredients are good. I throw two calcium supplements in her food and cover it wit brewers yeast. She also gets some brewers yeast w/garlic capsules daily which she loves. Im tryn a opmimize her immune system.
Glad 2 say her stink has eased off over the last week or so. The rawness, black scabs and bleeding from her rubbing her neck/back on anything have also eased off little by little. She seems less irritated then she was. And she is in heat now! Im assuming this may have brung on the outbreak, as it seemed it got worse rt after I got her. 2day, b4 her bathe I noticed hair growth on her hotspots... YEAH! Its been a lil over 2 weeks, and 2day was her sixth borax bathe. Seems 2 b improving so far. I'll keep u posted.
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I waited one day and then I woke up itching all over. I cleaned my entire house, thinking we were getting the mites. I mopped, vacuumed after sprinkling diatomaceous earth, washed her bedding/toys and blankets. I sprayed the mixture outside where she lays and plays. I dumped it all over my porch, where she lays. Today, she woke up screaming and howling again, itching like mad, two days after the last application. So I bathed her again. This time her skin peeled off. She has horrible sores all over her body now, bright red patchy skin and swelling. WHAT DID I DO WRONG? Did I use the mixture too often? She just keeps itching like crazy. Maybe it's not mange? I haven't taken her to the vet to make 100% sure. Any advice or help would be GREATLY appreciated. I am scared I am killing her and I feel so sorry for her with the pain and suffering I know she is in!! Oh, Benadryl (antihistamine) does help her sleep at night. Should I continue with that? Thanks!!
(Portsmouth, Ri Usa)
12/29/2010
This is for Jenn from Memphis who wrote in on 11/03.
Hi Jenn,
Wanted to respond to your post - and hope that your dog is doing better. Am passing along my experience with MANGE in hopes that it will help people and their pets. You mentioned you thought you were killing your dog bc of the dogs crying. I just wanted to reassure you that you are not killing your dog. The terrible crying is probably from the mange- the mites burrow into the skin and bite- basically driving your dog mad.
I have just finished ( I hope)a 10 month long battle with scabies/mange. For the first 8 months and 10 visits to the vet my dog was misdiagnosed and my bank account drained by thousands. During this time I tried baths, sprays, benadryl, antibiotic ointments, pills from the vet, steroid injections and the list goes on. NOTHING gave my dog relief- and during this whole time he howled and cried constantly unless he was busy eating himself alive and throwing himself against walls because he was so distressed. He lost all of his hair- skin broken, bumpy, raw, bite and scratch marks. It was terrible and I thought many times about putting him to sleep because he was miserable and until he was diagnosed I thought I was killing him.
As it turns out the vet trt for mange if caught early is pretty straightforward, effective, and inexpensive. Since mange is difficult for the vet to see unless they do a biopsy (scrapings rarely show the mite)a diagnosis is usually the response to treatment. The treatment is Revolution which is a topical like Frontline and Ivermectin. Then there are other washes and dips I am not familiar with. My dog was out of his mind- and would bite anything near him- including me. He was in so much pain he did not know what he was doing. The itching was also far worse at nite- I am told that this is bc the mites are more active at nite. If you can afford to go to the vet now and start these treatments you will save money in the long run bc you will avoid the secondary skin infections which will require antibiotics and further treatment. If your vet recommends treatment with Revolution and it is too expensive - Pfizer is the company that makes Revolution and they may have some financial programs available to help with cost. Good luck and don't give up. You can email me directly as well @melaniejsmith(at)cox(dot)net
(Salisbury, Ma.usa)
04/02/2011
It's my understanding, Ivermectin is very toxic? and because my kittens immune system is very low she might be at risk for just about any thing. I also understand that at one time there was a recall on frontline?I get my cats flea & tick treatments at a very busy popular herbal store. , I have been using the natural things for way over fifteen years for my self and my animals and hopefully no complaints as of yet. I thought the moral of this story was to try an get away from vets. Expenses?and conventional treatments? when all else fails then I might have to throw the towel in and go to my vet. For help. Thanks
(Johannesburg, South Africa)
05/05/2011
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Miriam
(South Carolina)
02/06/2015
ANY VET should KNOW that you cannot prescribe SHETLAND SHEEPDOGS *any herding dog* IVERMECTIN!!!!!!!! I cannot believe that he did this. They have a genetic hypersensitivity to it. It will kill them. SMH!
(Ny)
08/14/2015
How is Scout? I cannot believe a vet prescribe Ivermectin to a Sheltie. Actually, I can believe it, I had a vet give one of my adoptees Revolution and Sentinel at the same time, he's only 7 pounds. The adopter called and told me he threw it up and I was PO'd that he gave those two things together. I told her you have to double check everything, especially meds, even if you trust your vet. Always question everything.
(Texas)
10/29/2016
Damned sure will. That vet needs to do a lot more research. My friend didn't have a clue either. She gave Sammy just a little more than a pin drop.Sammy came to me was running into the wall, cabinets trying to tell me something was very wrong. It causes the brain to swell. He was totally blind just over night. Almost killed him. Lucky we caught it in time!!! He spent a week at Dr. MC Brides clinic. Mc Brides clinic is in Burnet Texas.. This man is a genuis!!!!! Have your vet call this man he'll give him some very important information. Frankenstein of the Veterinary World. I have had lots of people tell me stories about him before I was even born...
Get Dog Tested for Allergies
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I am in rescue & with 8-9 dogs most of the time I run into all kinds of problems. I have had serious side effects from meds so- I have mostly gone natural.
My Benji got ringworm 4 years ago & then mange & bacteria infection. Got rid of the RW but for 4 years the mange & bacteria has come & gone every few month. Yes I tried the borax 7etc & it works but he kept getting it back. Finally I insisted on an allergy test.The vet said no way is that the problem but i INSISTED!!!!!!
Sure enough he had lots of allergies & mostly foods. I had him on a really good holistic dog food. BUT His allergies were beef-fish-barley oats- potatoes - sweet potatoes- lamb - grass- dust mites to name a few.
I immediately changed foods. He now gets chicken & rice only - no perservatives & no treats unless they are chicken. Guess what he has been great for 6 months - back to his old self. Yes he has scars & always will as he had it so bad he bleed all the time from the sores. But this was the culprit. So if you have skin problems check for allergies - ivemectin & antibotics for 4 years without stop. That's not good.
I also sprayed him with collidal silver & it also works.
Glover' S Shampoo and Coniditioner, Sulphur
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Heart Worm Medication Connection
(Greeneville, Tn/usa)
07/13/2011
Diatomaceous Earth instead of heart worm medications, just make sure you purchase the food grade Diatomaceous Earth
(Roswell, Nm)
04/11/2016
One note on using Diatomaceous Earth for worms. It will only work on parasites that it contacts, not heart worms, as they are not in the intestinal tract. I used to give DE to my dogs, then discovered 2 of 6 had round worms, and one had tape worms, so quit giving it all together. I changed to using garlic in their home made foods, and since that time, not one of them has had worms that I have discovered since.
If you live in an area where heart worm is prevalent, please use a good natural mosquito repellent liberally and faithfully to keep your best friend from getting it! The treatment for a heart worm positive dog is brutal, and not something I would wish on anyone.
(WV)
09/07/2023
Heartworms and DE
To those who still have no idea what DE aka silica actually does. If only very little opal silica got into the bloodstream how does anyone explain how it grows nails, hair, stronger bones, tendons, cartilage, better skin and produces loads of collagen? While also removing aluminum, mercury, and all other heavy metals. Also removing mold, fungus, candida, bad bacteria, pathogens, chemicals and toxins of every sort. How on earth can it possibly affect your liver, kidneys, heart and all other organs and pull the garbage out of your brain and decalcify the pineal gland? How can it be seen in high amounts in your urine? Can you please explain how it is that silica manages quite well at removing all atherosclerosis from the arteries and removes inflammation if not through the blood? But it's going to leave the parasites alone. Can anyone at all tell us what the heart does? The heart pumps blood. In fact the heart pumps blood to every last cell in your body in under a minute. Can anyone tell me how silica is carried through the blood and heart at remarkable speed and high concentration but yet somehow a heart worm manages to miraculously avoid contact with the blood and opal silica even when it is literally in the absolute worst place it can be for a parasite? If there is one parasite that is most certainly in the absolute danger zone it is in fact the heartworm. By the way heartworms do not remain in the same place and location as they do move around a lot as well. Absolutely no one can tell me that heartworms are safe from death. It is incredulous that anyone who has a working mind and understanding of how the body works could ever claim heartworms are safe from impending doom. The same goes for all parasites in the body. DE also prevents heartworms by wiping out the threat as soon as fleas or other insects drink the blood they begin to die and whatever they pass is killed in the bloodstream as well. By Kareen Vasquez Might be anecdotal, but I helped rehome two dogs in Texas, which is heavy in heartworm cases. The owner couldn't afford heartworm medication, but did give her dogs DE. I was shocked when the dogs tested negative for heartworm. In Texas, an outdoor dog doesn't stand too good a chance in avoiding heartworm. A vet probably wouldn't agree, but I think it'd be an interesting experiment (for someone braver than me). By Johnny T Nguyen Neil Dailey 100% In the holistic dog group, people use DE to treat heartworms all the time with great success.
Herbettes
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I forget which type of mange it was, but the vet said it was sometimes incurable and gave me something like wallpaper cleaner to plaster on it after a DAILY bath ! I skipped the bath,and the medicine which I tho't was hopeless, and the Herbettes cleared it up. It also cleared up the eyes on a Toy Poodle. The vet had tho't an operation would be necessary, but it wasn't and the eye returned from foggy to normal looking.
Hydrogen Peroxide
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(Newland, North Carolina)
12/01/2011
omg I just realized something, I have a beautiful but now miserable and no hair on the face 15wk old german shepherd pup I saved. He was born with mange contracted from mom and had 12 littermates. He had been treated by the vet before I got him and wormed and the mange at that time was only on the face (3 weeks ago), he was clearing up and doing great, hair growing back, everything, I had to give him his 2nd worming pill last week and now he is so much worse! Duh, could it have been the wormer that caused his reversal? I'm thinking maybe!
Hydrogen Peroxide
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(Montague, New Jersey)
01/19/2009
Can I use 3 parts of hydrogen peroxid shampoo with 1 part of water for my 6 month old doberman then after 10 minutes rinse it with water?
(Alberta, Canada)
01/13/2010
★☆☆☆☆
That is what I am using right now, hydrogen peroxide shampoo left on for 10 mins, with no effect. I am gonna try something stronger this time.
EC: Please see Ted's popular mange remedy here: https://www.earthclinic.com/pets/dog_mange_cure.html
(Chennai, Tamilnadu, india)
10/19/2011
Hydrogen Peroxide, Apple Cider Vinegar, Vitamin E
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Initially ( wear surgical gloves ): washing the area with a mixture of peroxide and apple cider vinegar, watered down a bit to ease the discomfort/burning. Massaging this in. Pat dry any excess.
Next: massage the affected area with a very high IU content of Vitamin E Liquid ( I used 30,000 or 35,000 ). ( I also cured my own life-long Eczema of the hands with this strength of Vitamin E, the lower strengths do not have the same effect. )
I repeated the Liquid massage with peroxide and apple cider vinegar for only 3x ( 3 days in a row ); after that only the Vitamin E massage 2x a day until obvious clearing took place. ( Within 2 weeks or less, hair was returning nicely. )
Hydrogen Peroxide, Hand Sanitizer
(Gainesville, Fl)
12/03/2010
★☆☆☆☆
(Frederick, Maryland)
01/12/2011