Distemper (Cats)
So, last night, on day 10, I was doing the daily check of her leg to make sure it wasn't getting worse, and I notice it was really swollen at the upper joint, nearly the size of a golf ball!! So today I called the vet and they said to bring her in. I did, and when the vet saw her they said it looked like her back leg and front leg were broken! I said NO WAY and they did X-rays and of course, NOTHING was broken or fractured or injured at all. They said there was a lot of swelling in her back leg joint and a little in her front leg (right) lower joint. They said she had a slight temp. They first said maybe it was DISTEMPER?? I said NO, she has been only with her mother and brother, no where NEAR any other cats and none of them are sick. Plus she has been vaccinated. They do not believe me that it is a vaccination reaction. I said, but don't you give the vaccine in the rear left leg?? and they said No, it's given in the upper back. Which is NOT true. So now my little baby girl is being hospitalized at the vet on multiple antibiotics when I believe all she needs is something to counteract the reaction to the vaccine. What a mess. I have had many foster kittens, have done tons and tons of kitten vaccines and have never seen this happen. I also am pretty positive the shot was given in the left rear leg, not the upper back as they now are stating.
Today, my dog has totally recovered but I am very skeptical vis a vis any vaccination or drops that the vets recommend. I am educating myself to natural alternatives. I thank "earth clinic" which is very educative.
However, I would like to know if there is any alternative to leptospirosis prevention.
In other words, they gave him the virus, they did not counteract it with a combo of the dead vaccine as well, only the live one, leaving my poor Jakiva's immune system open and weak for anything. My dog had diarrhea by the end of the night, I at first thought it was just a reaction to the vaccine, but within the same 2 hours that I made that assumption, he started urinating very frequently until it wasn't even urine anymore, but was clear like water. From experience with kids this was an obvious early symptom of dehydration, I went to the pharmacy and bought pedialite, and started to maintain his fluids, the second day he was hydrated but had lost some of his body weight, and had watery ranking stool.
I went to google, and typed in the words what can I give my puppy with parvo to keep him hydrated, I found and discovered alot of frustrating information related to the hardyness of parvo, the vaccine information the vet does not tell you about, and that even if you get your dog vaccinated, it can still catch parvo, and the startling statistics of dogs that have survived parvo without their vaccine vs those that have had it. My baby with his vaccine was on the higher fatality list than that of a dog that has not had a vaccine against it. I learned that dogs, like humans get better nutrition from herbs and natural supplements than the chemicals that the medical industry prescribes and recommends. Unfortunately for both humans and animals, the pharmaceutical companies pay large cash incentives for prescribing drugs with side effects as opposed to natural cures. The issue with the drugs with side effects is that they only supress the problem, they do not assist in expelling it from the body. Unlike natural substances that have been around longer than the medical industry.
I started my dog on Echinacea for his immune system on his second day, I crushed it up and put it in his pedialite, and dosed him with it when I gave him the pedialite to keep him hydrated. The major CRITICAL issue is keeping them hydrated. Luckily for us, my Ja was keeping his fluids down orally, but there are a few ways to ensure they get hydrated. If you can keep fluids down them, there is nothing different the vet will do, but keep your dog hydrated, and feed them supplements through an IV. They will also give them pain medication, that would result in fatality, as your dog is already struggling to stay alive, a pain medication could shut his body down. There is no cure for parvo, only supportive care.
While on the second day, my boy did not drink his own water. He ate briefly, then he didn't hold his food down, and I followed the advice that instructed not to force them to take food, because they will throw it right back up, if they are not able to consume food, which only results in more fluid loss, and a greater chance of your pet becoming dehydrated. I continued giving him pedialite and water, along with his immune support supplements. I upped his dosage on the first night he was on support supplements, then I never skipped a beat, and I have a stubborn dog. He was running from me through the house, and I was consistently behind him with an oral syringe with an open end for medication not a needle. You can get these from the pharmacies. I also cross referenced what vitamins and nutrients are essential for dogs. I came up with Vitamin B 12, Acidophilus which is great for a dog with parvo, it promotes good bacteria in the intestinal tract, assisting your dog in pushing out the bad bacteria that parvo creates. The B 12 promotes regular metabolic pathways, which gives them back their natural energy. It also gives them an appetite, their body produces its own, thats what compells an appetite. I tried giving him pepto, but this is not recommended for a dog running a fever, so I only gave him a diluted dose, and after the second dose I eliminated this from his at home treatment regimen. I did however discover that there was some sort of an antibiotic needed, and I will not recommend a laboratory produced antibiotic, I researched the parvo virus, and was given the recommendation for collodial silver. This is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, and I believe highly effective.
My boyfriend picked up the collodial silver when he went to work on my pups day number 2, and we started giving him this that night. I gave him a superdosage of it, as the recommendation instructed to give as much as he could take. I gave him about 6 2 teaspoon full syringes, and started giving it to him regularly on day 3 every hour on the hour about a half a teaspoon for each dosage, you can administer the dosage according to your set regimen schedule, but do not skip a dose of this, and do not pass this recommendation. On days 1 and 2 he consistently needed the eye gook removed, on day 3 he only needed it removed in the morning. Day 3 was collodial silver, every hour on the hour, with part pedialite part collodial silver, and he was still on his nutriment supplements. I attempted a recommendation of raw liquified eggs, I tried this 3 times, and each time he yacked it back up, so to avoid this, I started giving him instant oatmeal. Like eggs oatmeal has protein, but it also has carbohydrates, and it sticks to the rib cage. I gave this to him in small bites 3 to 4 bites at a time. Testing the whole time if he was going to keep it down or not. When he did not throw this back up, I stayed with the oatmeal all day on day 3. Late on day 3 he perked up, he started following me around the house, and drinking his own water. At this point, I was curious as to whether he was going to keep drinking on his own, so I started taking him outside. They do NOT recommend this. They highly recommend not allowing your pet to go outside, at least not on walks, but also, most of these recommendations came from someone that had treated a fairly young pup, my Ja is almost 6 months old, and was potty trained before he was 2 months old, so I had to make a decision whether it was better for Ja to be in the house and refusing to go to the bathroom in the house, thus keeping his system toxic, or to take the chance of taking him for his walks. I chose to walk him so he could get rid of this nasty virus.
I immediately filled a spray bottle with part bleach part hot water. The recommendation is around a hefty splash of bleach so that you know even tho it is dilluted, the bleach still has its effectiveness, as bleach is the ONLY household cleaner that will kill this evil virus for your dog. If you want to keep your dog alive do NOT forget to disinfect and sanitize your whole house with bleach and hot water. You can use bleach water on your grass, or you can use another product that I do not know the name of, as it is only accessible online, or in a feed supply store, or the virus will thrive in your yard, and when your dog or another dog comes in your yard will either become reinfected, or get infected. I disinfected my house on both day 3 and day 4 I used bleach and dishsoap for his food and water dishes, and I threw out his chew toys, like tug of war ropes, and other material chew toys. I bleached the entire house down, and gave Ja a nird bath with a very dilluted content of bleach water and his regular earth bath natural puppy shampoo. I washed all laundry and linens with 2 capfuls of clorox bleach, after the washer was filled with water, as again bleach kills the virus. When I took Ja outside, I wiped his paws with a rag that had been soaked in dilluted bleach water and dishsoap to prevent him from tracking it back in.
This is day 4 and Ja is eating on his own, and drinking plenty of water. I am still giving him the collodial silver as antibiotic, although I am only giving it to him every 2 to 3 hours now, as it is taking effect on him. I would recommend continuing the vitamins and supplements as well as the collodial silver as an antibiotic until it is gone, and even recommend getting more to enhance the dogs immune system, as they will need immune support, and a continued antibiotic to expel this virus from the system. There are so many great resources online that you can find out about home parvo remedies. There is also a natural home remedy that can be bought as a single supplement, as opposed to gathering individual vitamin supplements, and has the same content plus that will help your dog recover from this dreadful disease, as well as maintain prevention of future occurances. I was unable to order this supplement, so I used what little money I had and resources available to me to pick some of the better and crucial ingredients on the list to decide which supplements I could get to assist my pup in staying alive til he kicked this virus, I calculated the symptoms, and what was the most dire, and chose the B12 for his appetite, and drinking desire, I chose the Echinacea for immune support, I chose the Acidophilus for his intestinal tract health, as this is what the parvo virus attacks, that causes your dog to eventually die if left untreated or unnoticed, Chamomile tea for his tummy to soothe it, I kept a supply of Maple syrup to rub across his gums when he was lethargic and completely listless to keep his glucose levels up, this also gave him the energy he needed like a person suffering from sugar diabetes that has a low blood sugar, it works the same way with your pet. Just dont get crazy with it, put maple syrup or honey or even kaero syrup on 2 fingers and rub it across the gums when they are seemingly lifeless, it will give them the energy needed to maintain breathing status. This is also highly recommended, but organic syrup or honey is even better. I made use of what I had available, and Ja is on day 4 getting back to normal.
Do not be alarmed once they start recovering, there will almost surely be no waste in their system for the dog to get rid of, so when the dog starts eating depending on the amount of weight he has lossed, and the speed of his appetite increasing, he may not pass a bowel movement for the entire day. This is only something to be alarmed about if they are showing symptoms of pain, if they are not in pain, their body is most likely absorbing this food as fast as it goes in their system, as with the human body, it absorbs and stores what it needs, and gets rid of the rest.
My gut instinct told me he had parvo without a vet diagnosis, and my motherly instincts took over. My gut instinct was right, before he showed some of the more severe signs of parvo. If caught early, your dog or puppy can survive, keep the pet full of clear fluids. Pedialite is a miracle. It is used for dehydrated children, and you cant give too much for your pet. It is loaded with electrolytes. It will eventually stretch their stomach out so that they have a desire for food and water again, its a matter of your dedication to your pet, and your pet.
I am now proud to say that my Ja will only ever get hollistic or homeopathic healthcare, as I already only seek natural remedies for myself and my daughter. Until my Ja got parvo from the vet, I had confidence in the pet medicine. My confidence firmly lies with the natural remedies now, and its because of sites like wolf creek ranch that have made me believe in my previous thoughts.
Ja is now laying on his back waiting for his belly rubs and stretched out like normal. I am so happy my Ja is getting better, I couldn't ask for a better birthday present as it will be in 10 minutes. I know that there are some that would only recommend a vet treatment for parvo, and this is not to be a substitute to conventional treatment, this is information for those of you that love your pets, but cannot afford an upfront vet bill, as that is what I went through. I contacted other clinics, and they all said that they only accepted payment upfront, either rendering Ja completely helpless to die a painful death, or for me as his dedicated loving owner to take matters into my own hands and give it my all. I chose to give it my all, and I am glad I did. I believe that with the constant love and compassion from its owner the pet will thrive and get through this sickness much better with the owners love, rather than being locked in a cage with other animals in the clinic barking, and only being checked on periodically.
The first 48 to 72 hours are touch and go, and you cannot be certain even when they start to show signs of recovery, you must be fully dedicated and attentative, or you could quite simply let this virus eat your pet alive. Parvo does not kill your pet dehydration, shock, and toxic internals kill your pet. Also you must be more stubborn than your pet, because they will not be likely to simply open their mouth and allow you to insert the syringe. Always remind your pet that you love them and be compassionate. If you remain dedicated, and do not underestimate the fatality rate of this virus, your pet can very well survive!
Ja is not in the clear yet, but I will not take no for an answer. If I did, he would have gave up. He was ready to, but I constantly reminded him that it was not his choice. It only becomes their choice if you allow them to be more stubborn than you. If your pet is not eating and drinking there is something wrong, dogs especially love their food, so if they are not eating, and they drink alot of water you should definitely take note of the rest of the symptoms. Do not wait til your pet has expelled all of his fluids through diarrhea and vomit to start treatment. If your dog does not have parvo, you will know when they poop. It is a smell you really wont forget, and you'll know when you smell it. It smells like fermented blood. Very raunchy and nauseating.
Don't forget to keep the living space sanitized, and don't wait around for your dog to die helplessly because you cannot afford a vet. There are great success rates among dogs that are treated at home with the around the clock care mandatory for their full recovery.
Good Luck!
Parvo Vaccine
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Thuja
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Combination Vaccines
STOP THE MADNESS!!! All I hope is the she hasn't suffered for naught - that her story will continue to encourage other dog owners to re-think all yearly vaccines. Evil madness - and we WiLL be judged on how we protected the innocents.
Seizures
A few years earlier we had a cat that was given yearly vaccines. She developed an over-active thyroid, and despite having lost a lot of weight and not seeming to be in good health, the vet gave her a full set of vaccinations, plus Feline Leukemia. At the time, I thought all those vaccines were in the name of good health. Within a few weeks of getting those vaccinations, she stopped eating and we lost her.
I now have 2 dogs, 4 horses, and 3 cats that have been given minimal vaccinations. My new vet doesn't fight with me or try to convince me to vaccinate. I am convinced that I lost both my beloved Brandy and cat Barney to vaccinations! I suggest every pet owner read "The Nature of Animal Healing" by Martin Goldstein, DVM. Despite 2 degrees in Animal Science, it is this book that began me on my journey towards true animal health. My animals have benefitted greatly from the limited vaccines and home prepared diets! I hold my breath after each state required rabies vaccination, but hope their overall good health will help them through its trauma to their system!
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I now have 2 Old English Sheepdogs who are naturally reared. They are 9 & 10 currently and have had no chemicals in or on them, are fed a raw diet and have only been to a vet once. They had their puppy shots and that was it until my one dog was diagnosed with a hernia. He had to have an operation and they wouldn't do it until he had a rabies shot. This would be his second in his lifetime. I was reluctant but knew he needed a repair of his hernia. 2 months after that shot, he developed cysts all around his neck area. Sheepdogs are extremely sensitive to shots of any kind and he did puff up at the injection site. I was told by an herbalist to take a slice of lemon and rub it on the site and the puffiness went away. I then began using Colloidal Silver in drops 2x a day on the cysts and in a matter of a week, they burst and were gone and have never returned. They will never get a rabies shot for the life of them. My dogs have never had medications either of any kind. I treat them homeopathically and herbally and they are thriving.
Distemper (Dogs)
Advice for Vaccination Side Effects
And oh, by the way, in my reading I have found out that there have been a number of "faulty vaccines" not properly prepared by the companies, with tragic results. Get a good book (such as "Vaccine Guide for Dogs and Cats") on this subject at a holistic pet store or try online.
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Please be an informed pet owner and find out what is required BY LAW in your state as to NOT over vaccinate your pet. (and then ask your vet to low dose it)
Over vaccination is a huge health hazard to your pets. There are many holistic vets now if you do some research.
Over vaccination creates a revenue generating pet for the conventional vet and usually leads to life of misery for the poor pet that is suffering a whole bunch of auto immune diseases and seizures,allergies etc....
Take some time and research!! So many pets dying from poor quality food-over vaccination and poor quality water.
All they have is us to depend on don't let them down!
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In 2004, we had a 5 year old female husky to die within 2 hours of receiving her vaccination. She'd had shots every year (DA2PP) without any problems. This year the vet added the Corona Vaccine which is what we think killed her.
We took her for an necropsy immediately to UGA Vet School. Receiving vet said there was no doubt she died from vax reaction. The vet doing the necropsy had the cell phone number to my vet (they knew each other), made personal calls to each other. I think to protect my vet from a law suit or what-not, the vet doing the necropsy reported her death inconclusive, died from swelling in brain (encyphelytis). Thus, this tragedy could not be reported to the vaccine companies!!!!
The same day, a 3 year old Shih Tzu had what I call neurological effects. He was despondent and screamed if we touched him for 3 days. Its like all his nerves were very sensitive. For an addl 7 days he was distant and a touch-me-not and whimpered if we touched him. He had never had any reactions to a vaccine before. I also contribute this to the corona that was added to the vaccine.
The vet REFUSED to believe that his vaccine caused either of these. Yet, on the same day I had 2 dogs severely affected.
I have since learned that corona only affects puppies; thus, no need to ever be given to an adult dog. Yet, most vets include this in the vaccine protocol. I now buy my own vaccinations and give the shots myself on a more conservative protocol due to the new findings of how we are way over vaccinating our pets.
I encourage all to learn about the vaccines their pets are getting and do not accept a vets word that all are safe. He's in business to make money. When adding the corona vax in 2004, the vet charged an addl $30 per vaccine!!!!!
Sincerely,
CShep3
EC: Thank you, CShep. We're cross-posting your feedback in the advice section and the side effects section.