My wife became very ill, out of breath, after the pup licked her on the face and up the nose. She has had tests and they all confirm that she has contracted bordetela. This has come from our sick puppy. What do we do now?????
Has anyone else had the same problem?????
Very sorry to hear of your problems. Humans contracting bordetella is uncommon but does occur, usually the humans involved have another underlying health issue that makes them susceptible but this is not always the case. The good part about the human side is that the antibiotics used to treat it are commonly available.
As for your puppy, if your vet is not responding I would seek out a new vet. I googled 'holistic vet new south wales' and got three hits, Bangalow, All Natural and another and all looked very good. You should be able to ring up the old vet and have them transfer all of your pup's records over to the new vet if you go that route.
What you can do at home: hydrogen peroxide with honey and bread come to mind, also colloidal silver. Take a peek and read through what others used and did to arrive at a remedy and dose you are comfortable with: https://www.earthclinic.com/pets/cough.html
Please report back!!
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I agree with many issues in your post! When I have youngsters to vaccinate I hold off until 16 weeks for the first poke of core vaccinations, do the second poke one month later and then boost at 1 year, and then cease vaccinations. I do rabies at 6 months and boost 1 year later, and then every 3 years or as required by law in my area. I think if you can order your own vaccines and dose 1/3 or 1/2 as you are doing that is great. We cannot order rabies vaccine - vet's must administer and I know my own holistic vet is under a lot of fire from the Western practitioners who simply do not understand how the alternative side of things work, that he would never risk his practice by dosing anything but the full dose :( So glad you are able to do the reduced rabies dose!
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You might try adding activated charcoal- loose or easier to dose tablets - to Bella's food for a few days to help her detox. Also homeopathic Thuja in a crisis dose [initial frequent dosing as indicated on package label] may help Bella. Focus on keeping her hydrated rather than fed at this point, and consider dosing activated charcoal in doggy pedialyte if she has no interest in taking the tablets hidden in a tasty treat. Please report back!
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Yesterday he became lethargic, stopped eating and had labored breathing - it was after hours and we took him to an emergency vet - his temp was 103 - the vet said that he walked fine - tail wagging and that the only thing she saw was that he was gassious - she told us to take him home and give him a gax-x - she said to followup with our vet in the morning - all night his breath was shallow and raspy - he did not sleep and I held him up to enable his breathing - this morning I was at my local vet at 6 am - the vet told us his temp was 106 - very low white count and that the xray showed fluid in his right lung - diagnosed with asperation pneumonia - we took him to a critical care hospital with an oxygen crate - they worked on him all day - they said that it could be bronchial pneumonia - his status deteriorated and he went into total organ failure - he passed this evening - I am convinced that the bordatella was the cause - all of my vets have denied even hearing of bad reactions from bordatella spray vaccine - something needs to be done
EC: We are so very sorry for your loss.
At 6:30 after a long night of no sleep and labored breathing I arrived at our vet's office - his temp was 106 and in grave condition. They administered oxygen and antibiotics and said that the xray showed possible aspiration pneumonia - we were advised to go to the same emergency clinic for him to be put into an oxygen crate - he died late that afternoon. I did not INSIST on a blood test or xray at the emergency vet the prior evening which is eating at me every minute. I wondered at the time why neither was given. I thought that at minimum a blood test and chest xray were warranted. His white count was low on exam the next morning I believe the was pure negligence by the emergency vet the prior evening. Antibiotics and oxygen could have been started 11 hrs earlier and may have made a difference.
Beside the heartache of losing my sweet Gumbo the guilt is intense. ALWAYS go with your gut and question a Vet's actions.
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That day I kept my eye on them and they both seemed unbothered by the vaccinations or visit. However, the next day I noticed my Little Terrier was sniffling. I didn't pay much attention because the house was a little cold however, the sniffles have not gone away and that was 2-12 months ago. Other than that she is happy, healthy, eating and drinking fine.
Has anyone else had or know of this reaction or what can be done?
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I'm a Pet Rescuer and over the years I have witnessed my own dog have reaction to rabies shot:developed lump on right side and aggression, called to report it but told me that the days from shot was over the course to report. Next, a lost german shepherd was lost;took her in got her spayed and received the distemper shot;her behavior changed to becoming aggressive and now I'm having problems handling her. Before the distemper shot, she knew basic commands and had no problem handling her at all. I don't know what happened to her and why such aggression.
Two thoughts come to mind when I read your post: homeopathic [pill form] thuja occidentalis may help with to detox from the vaccinations. You might also consider adding bentonite clay or activated charcoal to your dog's chow for 2-3 weeks for internal cleansing as well.
And about your shepherd's aggression; the distemper vaccine is not known for having that side effect - rabies, yes, but not distemper. It makes me think something else is up, such as hypothyroid. There is a link between low thyroid and aggression/compromised mental state, so my advice to you would be to have a thyroid panel run on your shepherd to see if the thyroid is functioning normally.
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In my book on homeopathic medicine for pets, Dr. Don Hamilton DVM, relates that since the high use of rabies shots, aggression is the result and it is also the most injurious injection of all of them. He says that multiple problems arise from vaccinations per se. It is a shame to torture our pets for what is obviously 'business".
So Sorry Namaste, Om
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(HERE IS THE KICKER) our vet contacted the manufacturer or the vaccine and they replied that they have never heard of any problems with the vaccine. Then our vet said they are going to send us a check for 1,300.00 dollars.and they did. Something is very rotten in Denmark. Something must be done about this.
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I've since read that vaccinations given along with surgery and anesthesia is too much for a young animal's system. Please have your animal vaccinated first, then wait a month or so and return for the neutering... Don't do it all at once no matter what your veterinarian is recommending.
While on the subject of neutering.. my now 8 year old male cat, Buddy was neutered at about 3 months and he then developed a problem getting crystals or stones (likely because his urethra was not matured) and is now on a more expensive 'urinary tract' cat food. I recommend waiting until the male kitten is about 5 months old, female kittens can be spayed earlier. My cat is fine as long as he gets the special canned and dry foods. Two times he had the blocked urethra problem (which can be deadly within a short time).. the first time I took him to the vet.. very costly. The next time it happened I gave him a Apple Cider Vinegar and water mix with a syringe several times a day until I saw results. You do not need a lot of ACV (maybe 1/3rd of the small syringe full, fill the rest with plain water) Within less than 12 hours he was urinating fully, he was back to normal within 2 days.
I'm not a doctor or a vet, this is just my own personal experience. Please do your research.
Read more about ACV at the "Natural Cystitis Remedies for Cats" page here at Earthclinic.
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He is anemic, lethargic, lost weight, and appetite. I did some research on this vaccine, and am frightened with what I am reading on the side effects.
Please guide me as to how I should approach this horrible situation.
Thank you in advance,
Dale
Did your vet check for Immune mediated hemolytic anemia? This is one documented vaccine side effect.
From the web:
"Immune mediated hemolytic anemia is a severe, life-threatening disease whereby theimmune system targets and destroys the red blood cells of the body, resulting in anemia, jaundice (yellow gums), pale gums, weakness and sometimes fever. Animals can be so severely anemic that they need blood transfusions to stay alive and some maydie as a result of anemia and lack of oxygen to tissues or as a result of blood clotsentering the lungs, brain or kidneys (ruptured red blood cell membranes float around causingclots to form). These animals are sometimes very sick and in need of special veterinary care and immune-suppressive medications in order to recover. Some willnot recover despite what we do.
When to worry:
Any dog with pale or yellow gums must be seen by a vet. These signs will often be accompanied by variable signs of lethargy (tiredness), low exercise tolerance, collapse, dark coloured urine (the urine is often deep yellow, red - the colour of port wine - or brown), heavy or rapid breathing and sometimes inappetence and fever."
Source: http://www.pet-informed-veterinary-advice-online.com/vaccine-side-effects.html#reaction-twelve
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Sorry to hear about your boy experiencing side effects from vaccination.
Often the first 'go to' remedy for vaccination side effects is homeopathic Thuja Occidentalis. It is in the form of tiny sugar based pills; dose them directly into your dog's mouth and hold it shut for a few moments for them to dissolve- do NOT touch the pills as this can de-activate them.
If your boy is in good weight and not skin and bones, I would not sweat the lack of appetite too much. Offer him broth or home made doggy pedialyte for electrolytes and salts to keep him hydrated. If he does not want to drink then use a syringe and get **something** down him so he does not get dehydrated; do the fluids about half an hour AFTER the thuja to avoid de-activating the thuja. Dose the thuja every 2-4 hours to start, and monitor results. It it is the right remedy you will see some improvement in the first 6 hours or so. Again, do not push him to eat, but do offer him broth to keep the sugar, salts and electrolytes up.
Once he comes around it might be a good idea to offer him activated charcoal in some canned food, or bentonite clay - these will help draw the toxins from his body as they pass through. Additional support for his organs might be milk thistle.
If this were my dog next time I would consider only doing the legally required rabies vaccine and skip all the rest.
Good luck and please report back!
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Another thing concerning vaccines...it is really bad to get a rabies vaccine at the same time as the distemper combo. I wait at least 3 wks. between vaccines. This is not something all vets will tell you and to my knowledge the amount of lepto in a vaccine cannot be reduced. For more info about vaccination you can google Dr. Dodds vaccine recommendations.
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I am sorry to hear about your JRT. The bordetaella [kennel cough] vaccine has been proven to not work AND your dog has been shedding live virus, potentially giving other dogs KC, for weeks now. The shedding of the live virus should end after 6-8 weeks, but since your girl still has symptoms of KC I would be careful about taking him out in public until she is well.
You might consider EC's hydrogen peroxide remedy for KC:
https://www.earthclinic.com/pets/cough.html#h2o2
Good luck and thank you for sharing your story!
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No problem, cheap and it works on animals too.
Namaste, Om
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