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Melatonin Lotion for Pain Relief: Recipe + Success Stories

on Nov 13, 2023| Modified on Apr 02, 2025
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Pain
Posted by Jr (Michigan) on 01/13/2025
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Art, after I had my knee replacement surgery and couldn't take any pain medication because I was so sensitive to all of them and having terrible anxiety from them, you recommended rubbing the melatonin lotion on my tummy. I wanted to let you know that it worked. I gradually switched over to a 5 mg gummy and have continued to take that on and off as needed for sleep. I have been meaning to let you know about that much sooner but better late than never. Thanks, Jr

Broad Benefits
Posted by Art (California) on 01/13/2025 2448 posts
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Previously I wrote about three friends who tested melatonin lotion for various pains in their backs, necks, shoulders and muscles to very good effect. Here is a link to that article and also how to make melatonin lotion easily at home :

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/topical-melatonin-pain-relief-success-stories.html

To update on one of the original 3 testers, Al, who had neck pain in several areas of the neck as well pain that radiated out from the neck to the shoulders and tightness on the right side of the spine.

Al recently informed me that he has not had to use melatonin lotion for any of the problems that he reported in the beginning for about five months now after twice daily sparing applications to his problem areas. I am mentioning this because it tends to confirm the many studies that suggest that melatonin has reparative effects on the spine, muscles and bones.

This morning I received a text message from another friend who has had a myriad of successes using melatonin lotion for many uses such as eczema, neck and spine pain as well as migraine headaches. This is a copy of the text she sent me :

' I wanted to let you know that I found another use for the melatonin rub....drum roll.... Hemorrhoids...it does wonders! '

She went on to say that it offers relief almost immediately and gradually shrinks the hemorrhoids.

This adds further to the list of 40 melatonin lotion benefits that have been reported and brings the list closer to 44 or 45 effective remedies as I wrote about here :

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/topical-melatonin-advantages-pain-management-guide.html

So that is the first two updates for melatonin lotion in 2025!

Art

Alleviates Nerve and Muscular Issues
Posted by Art (California) on 12/27/2024 2448 posts

Hi PayItForward,

Thank you for saying so!

Yes, vodka can be used in place of gin, however several people who used vodka after trying the gin first, reported that it took more vodka to get the melatonin to fully dissolve than it took for gin. This resulted in the finished lotion being more watery than the gin mix. If that isn't a problem for you, then yes, vodka will work.

Art


Alleviates Nerve and Muscular Issues
Posted by PayItForward (PNW) on 12/27/2024 65 posts

Dear Art,

Must the recipe specifically use gin, or can one use vodka in it's place? Thank you for another great post. Happy New Year!


Migraines
Posted by Art (California) on 11/11/2024 2448 posts

Hi Sherry,

My friend who used it for migraines told me she applied it sparingly to the back of her neck, temples and scalp. She said she applied from just below the lowest part of the neck to the top of the neck, which is above the hairline at the base of the skull and then applied it to the scalp and temples. She said her migraines would always last about a week and the ML would have them gone in less than a day with significant symptom reduction while the migraine was active. which she said was the best relief she had ever gotten.

Please let us know how it works for your daughter, whether it is helpful or not.

Art


Migraines
Posted by Sherry (Virginia ) on 11/11/2024

How was the melatonin lotion applied? My daughter has migraines and I made your lotion for her and then realized there is no instruction on how to use it for migraines. Does she rub the lotion on where she has migraine pain?


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 11/08/2024 2448 posts

Hi Gerrit,

Thank you for the clarification, now I understand the sentence!

Art


Q&A
Posted by Gerrit (Abbotsford BC Canada) on 11/07/2024

yes

Re:leguet

I was searching for the word liqaid as not solid. Been poor in splelling all my life in Holland, emigrated when I was 19.and here in Canada same thing.

By the way my son retired platoon chief at the fire dept. asked me if I ever looked up the word Asperger nice guy. I know I was different.

Thanks ART

Gerrit


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 11/07/2024 2448 posts

Hi again, Gerrit, Interestingly melatonin is useful for some with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) to help with sleep, but as discussed in the following link may also offer further benefit for other ASD symptoms, but I would expect those benefits would likely be most likely with extended use of both oral melatonin and ML together over an extended period of time :

Https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6096870/#:~:text=Melatonin is used to treat, , pain, and gastrointestinal dysfunctions.

Here is a relevant quote from the link:

' Melatonin is used to treat sleep difficulties associated with autism spectrum disorder (ASD). There are growing evidence that melatonin could have an effect on other symptoms than sleep, such as anxiety, depression, pain, and gastrointestinal dysfunctions. '

I do not understand the word you used, "league, "so I wasn't quite sure what you meant with that sentence. I have found that 360 mg of oral melatonin could not come close to the pain relieving effect of melatonin lotion (ML).

Art


Q&A
Posted by Gerrit (ABBOTSFORD, BC, CANADA) on 11/06/2024

Yes

Thanks ART for anwsering my question. I did try borax in a 2/3 liter of leguet 1/4 tsp and filling the cup during the day .My best response is if I can keep the urine PH over 7 measured with a PH meter and keep on a alkaline diet I'm not doing too bad. I'm doing the gluten free diet and baking my own bread and being an asperger to boot witch is I believe 1 1/2 % of the population, very sensetive people VERY sensative to EMF. the main reason I like to go with TM the effect of sleeping better. Even with 150mg oral melatonen it did not help much, many times the orral MT would cramp my fingers espescially if it the surroundings are cool.and that would happen with a lower dose also.


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 11/05/2024 2448 posts

Hi Gerrit,

Thank you for answering the question of, "does melatonin lotion (ML) help rheumatoid arthritis (RA) pain" as I wasn't positive whether it did or not as I have never had someone test it for that purpose until now! It worked for OA and PA, but I wasn't sure about RA. Can you tell me how you use it for RA and how it helps in your experience?

To answer your question, yes it will work, but always remember that you have to dissolve the melatonin powder in the gin, before adding the lotion or the finished product will be weak or not effective enough!

I don't mean to try and talk you out of using ML for your RA, but a potentially more effective and less expensive remedy for various forms of arthritis, in my experience, is borax, which has kept my psoriatic arthritis in remission for over 16 years and is a very inexpensive remedy that also offers potential to fend off osteopenia and osteoporosis.

Here is a link to the Earth Clinic (EC) Borax page :

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax.html

The above EC link gives information on multiple uses for borax as well as dosing information for arthritis and much more!

Until you have completed a test of borax, you can use the ML simultaneously. Studies suggest that melatonin can help arthritis and even offer some joint protective effects, but for me borax was life changing keeping my joints pain free for all of these years. It doesn't work for everyone, but seems to work for the greater majority of people who test it. I gave it the full 3 to 4 months as suggested by Dr. Rex Newnham who originally discovered the use of boron or borax for various forms of arthritis back in the 1960s/1970s. My PA was severe and it took about three months for me to become pain free, but I already felt benefit within the first month.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do and thank you again for the feedback on ML for RA pain relief!

Art


Q&A
Posted by Gerrit (Abbotsford, BC, CAN) on 11/04/2024

Topical Melatonin Question for ART

due to RA I go tru a litle bottle in no time, I want to make a big batch If I multiply the ingrediens by10 and use immersion stick mixer will that work?

I have A-FIB 24/7 and declined the meds. as I think the body is self regulating.

Have used a maintenace dose of nattokinase for decades and kept the arteries clean, have since changed to 5 caps of 100mg and added 2 caps o 120000 SU d.r. sarrapeptase usully during the nite.

also had in jan. 2018 an BOVINE CATHATER HEART VALVE INSTALLED.

beenfollowing EC posts daily for decates when TED was giving most of the advice.

Too bad that never the blood type is mentioned.

take care

Gerrit at 95

Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 09/29/2024 2448 posts

Hi Lola,

Another poster reported that she was able to use capsules that are equivalent to 750 mg to make the lotion to ameliorate her fibromyalgia pain. Not the best way to do it, but she said it worked for her.

Art


Q&A
Posted by Lola (Ontario) on 09/28/2024
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Hello Art, I live in Ontario, Canada and only melatonin tablets/capsules or drops are available to purchase. Is it possible to use any of them? Maybe drops? Many Thanks

Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 09/02/2024 2448 posts

Hi again, Cfitz,

I misunderstood your question. The only way I know of to get an accurate measure of 100 mg of melatonin powder is to use a digital milligram scale. The quarter teaspoon that I mentioned in my previous reply will be approximately 750 milligrams so you would need about one eight of that 1/4 teaspoon to get in the area of 100 mg.

I don't think 100 mg of melatonin in the 3 oz. bottle of melatonin lotion would have much effect as it will be a very weak mix.

Art


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 09/02/2024 2448 posts

Hi Cfitz.

The amount of melatonin to dissolve in 1.5 oz of gin is a one quarter measuring teaspoon that is level full.

Art


Q&A
Posted by Cfitz (Georgia) on 09/02/2024

Sir: I am very melatonin tolerant. I want to use 100mg strength to mix with gin and lotion. I have a bag of Melatonin from Bulk Supplements. The bag says 100g (3.5 oz). That's just the weight. The strength is only 3mg. How many teaspoons or tablespoons would I need to get 100 milligrams to mix in the 1.5 oz of gin, please? Thank you, Sir! Colleen


Back Pain Relief
Posted by lynn (pa) on 08/12/2024 7 posts

Hi Bonnie,

I made lotion without gin. First of you have to make lotion-you can use all kind oil as coconut oil, olive oil......., and you need put bee wax in it to make lotion. I use big pot with water in it, boil water at same time put glass bottle on it, put all kind oil what you like in it, then you put bee wax in it, last step is put melatonin in it. you have to wait let bee wax melt in the oil, then you have using something to mix it to let melatonin completely melted into lotion. I do not know heat will affect melatonin effecting or not. But I used lotion after I made it that the lotion made me sleepiness. I guess heat did not affect melatonin effecting.


Melatonin Lotion Feedback
Posted by lynn (pa) on 08/12/2024 7 posts

Hi Susan,

I am not Art, But I did melt melatonin with what I made lotion. You can make any kind lotion you want using boiling water. Put glass bottle in the water with something under glass (Provent glass break from very hot heat) all kind oils with bee wax, then put melatonin in it. after bee wax melt, melatonin mostly is melting too. you need using something mix melatonin with lotion. I did not measure how much oil and bee wax I put in and I did not measure how many grams of melatonin I put in. I used my tomato sauce glass bottle that at least is 16 oz bottle. I just put oil first, put bee wax in it as 3/4 bottle already, then put melatonin in it too. after wax melt if I think lotion is too oily, I just put more bee wax. I want strong melatonin lotion, so I put maybe almost 2 table spools of melatonin in, I thought if lotion too strong I will use less, if too weak I cannot use too much lotion on my skin. I tested my lotion after I finished, I did feel sleepiness after for a while.


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 08/08/2024 2448 posts

Hi Lynn,

Yes, I have used higher dose melatonin for many years. I have not experienced joint pain from taking melatonin, but I have seen reports on the internet that some people with rheumatoid arthritis have. On the other hand, I have seen reports that melatonin does not increase joint pain for people with RA, so that is a bit puzzling to me. I've gone as high as 180 mg, but I am now very likely higher than that amount because I take melatonin orally and topically everyday.

Art


Q&A
Posted by lynn (pa) on 08/07/2024 7 posts

Hi Art,

Thank you answered my question. I am just wondering that you use high dose of melatonin for a while, did you ever have jointing pain after you take melatonin? I am ask this because I am still think maybe my joint pain caused not by melatonin, because before I do not have any problem for any my joints, after I changed melatonin pills to melatonin gummies. is something in gummies made my joint pain? I stoped melatonin gummies from Saturday night, today is Tuesday noon, I feel a little bit better on my knee pain. I hope after 2 weeks I will be normal.


Q&A
Posted by lynn (pa) on 08/06/2024 7 posts

Thanks for answer my question. other question is "since you use very big doses melatonin, do you have any join pain caused by Melatonin?


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 08/06/2024 2448 posts

Hi Lynn,

In my experience, people have reported on the internet that melatonin can worsen joint pain in people with rheumatoid arthritis (RA), but on the other hand, I have gotten reports that it helped. As with most medications and supplements for specific health issues, it usually comes down to trial and error. For RA, studies seem to reflect this conundrum also, when it comes to RA and melatonin.

As far as oral melatonin, in my testing, I have not gotten any reports of pain relief of any significance, whereas, melatonin lotion (ML) has resulted in pain relief from many various pain issues as discussed here :

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/topical-melatonin-advantages-pain-management-guide.html

I would also add that that list of 40 has grown to 43.

ML is relatively inexpensive to make and test and doesn't seem to have many of the severe side effects that pain relieving NSAIDS can have as discussed here :

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/01/050111123706.htm#:~:text=Each year, the side effects, cancer in the United States.

Here is a very relevant quote from the above link :

' Each year, the side effects of long-term NSAID use cause nearly 103, 000 hospitalizations and 16, 500 deaths. More people die each year from NSAIDs-related complications than from AIDS and cervical cancer in the United States.'

Keep in mind that is just for the USA and does not include the rest of the world! By comparison, see how many deaths you can find caused by melatonin each year and I can promise you that the two are not even comparable!

I'm not saying that ML can alleviate every kind of pain, it can't, but it certainly seems worth testing considering its known safety profile, at least for most people. As with anything else used to relieve pain, it will not be agreeable with everyone, but if it is, it offers many other potential health benefits whereas NSAIDS which are also used for pain relief, mainly only help for pain management and not much else.

If you prefer NSAIDS which are readily available and also relatively inexpensive, you might keep the following in mind. Acetaminophen, an NSAID, also known as Tylenol, among other names, is often used for pain reduction and is the number one cause of liver transplants in the USA and the number two cause of liver transplants in the world as discussed here :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK441917/

Here is a relevant quote from the link :

' Acetaminophen toxicity is the second most common cause of liver transplantation worldwide and the most common cause of liver transplantation in the US. It is responsible for 56, 000 emergency department visits, 2, 600 hospitalizations, and 500 deaths per year in the United States. Fifty percent of these are unintentional overdoses. More than 60 million Americans consume acetaminophen on a weekly basis, and many are unaware that it is contained in combined products. '

If melatonin did the same as the above quote about Acetaminophen, it would be banned by the FDA immediately!

To answer your question, ' if oral melatonin taking make my join pain, what about melatonin lotion? can I still use melatonin lotion even I cannot take melatonin orally. '

I would say if oral melatonin causes you pain, then you might not want to consider ML among your pain relieving options.

Art


Q&A
Posted by lynn (pa) on 08/06/2024 7 posts

Hi Art,

After I used high dose of melatonin for sleep problem for a while, I got joint pain on knees. I thought melatonin supposed to make pain better not cause pain. Then I searched internet, people review said melatonin cause them big deal of pain. website address is "https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2008/10/melantonin-and-hidden-complexity/" people were talking about serious joint pain all over their body caused by melatonin.

My question is if oral melatonin taking make my joint pain, what about melatonin lotion? can I still use melatonin lotion even I cannot take melatonin orally.

Lynn

Ankle and Foot Swelling
Posted by Art (California) on 07/19/2024 2448 posts
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Melatonin Lotion Helped Reduce Ankle And Foot Swelling From An Unknown Cause

Recently I was talking with a friend who has ongoing ankle swelling that their doctor is trying to determine the cause of and has narrowed it down to heart or liver, but can't determine a treatment until that cause is pinpointed. I suggested to my friend that they try melatonin lotion on their feet and ankles in the meantime to try and reduce the inflammation, pain and swelling that is making it difficult and painful for them to stand or walk.

After 2.5 days they showed me that their ankle swelling had reduced significantly and one ankle and foot looked almost normal while the other was noticeably reduced using two applications sparingly applied per day. This is the most relief they have gotten for their swollen ankles and feet and my friend is very happy to finally get some relief!

Art


Q&A
Posted by Bill (Philippines) on 07/19/2024

Editor's Choice

Hi Julie C,

Apparently larger amounts of melatonin can be dissolved in fatty acids with shorter length carbon chains. This also means that more melatonin will dissolve in short and medium chain fatty acids such as virgin coconut oil than in long chain fatty acid oils like vegetable oil, olive oil, tallow and lard:

"In order to identify suitable oils for the development of melatonin-NE, melatonin solubility in seven oils was determined. Triglycerides with the shortest fatty acid chains (C4) were better solvents for melatonin, with solubility of approximately 4.5 mg melatonin/g of oil. Triglycerides with the longest fatty acid chains, C18, had the lowest melatonin solubility; 0.23 mg melatonin/g of oil. All other oils displayed a melatonin solubility between those values"

Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0939641120301259

I've also found from the research that you can dissolve much larger amounts of melatonin in DMSO(Dimethylsulfoxide) than you can using water, alcohol or oil. In fact, DMSO is perhaps the perfect vehicle to directly transport any orgainic chemical compound(with a molecular mass of less than 1000) through the skin into the blood.

I've recently been using various individual organic and inorganic chemicals on myself such as sodium thiosulfate, magnesium chloride, methylene blue and borax -- as well as using a drop of essential oil per dose like Thieves oil, Peppermint oil -- dissolved in a teaspoon of DMSO + water for various skin or blood problems. This was a very useful exercise. I had a hard growth or bump under my skin at the back of my neck that I could not dissolve or remove -- it's been there for over 20 years. So every two days I would mix 5 drops of 99% DMSO + 5 drops of water + 3 drops of 1% Methylene Blue(MB) and just dab it profusely around the small hard bump on my neck. Eventually, after about a month or so, the bump reduced in size, went flat and then completely disappeared. Interestingly, the blue stain on the back of my neck from the DMSO + MB always disappeared within about 30 mins.


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 07/18/2024 2448 posts

Hi Julie C,

I never tested coconut oil for melatonin lotion because some people don't like the smell, but if you try it, please let us know how it works for you as people who like coconut oil will definitely want to know how it works.

Art


Q&A
Posted by Julie C (Louisiana ) on 07/18/2024

Hello!

Regarding the melatonin recipe you gave - would using a coconut oil be an alternative to the lotion? Thank you!

Back Pain Relief
Posted by Art (California) on 07/16/2024 2448 posts

Hi Bonnie,

I chose gin as the solvent for the melatonin powder because it is much safer than using something like isopropyl alcohol or DMSO, it is relatively inexpensive and it is easy to find and purchase. Gin can be consumed, but isopropyl alcohol is poisonous to consume. My intent was to make it easy for people to test and use melatonin lotion.

In order to be most effective, the melatonin has to be dissolved before adding the lotion. If you just add the melatonin powder to the lotion without dissolving it first, the lotion will be significantly weaker or possibly be ineffective.

There are other solvents that can be used, but they are harder to acquire and generally cost more to buy. Your best bet, if you don't want to use gin is to ask a compounding pharmacy to make up a melatonin lotion for you using a non gin solvent, but keep in mind that most solvents have the potential for side effects. As an example, another solvent that can dissolve melatonin is dimethyl formamide (DMF) which is readily absorbed through the skin and is thought to have the potential to cause liver damage. With the the lotion made with gin, the gin evaporates fairly quickly once applied to the skin.

Another solvent that can dissolve melatonin powder is DMSO, but DMSO can carry many molecules through the skin. I think there are many molecules in many lotions that would be unhealthful to carry through the skin into the body in any meaningful amounts.

If you decide to try a compounding pharmacy, please let us know your results.

Art


Back Pain Relief
Posted by Bonnie (Los Angeles) on 07/16/2024

Hello,

Could the melatonin recipe be made without the gin? I don't drink alcohol and would prefer not to put in on my body topically. Or is there a substitute product for the gin? Thank you!


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 07/15/2024 2448 posts

Hi Helen B,

Thank you very much for your important feedback on melatonin lotion and fibromyalgia! Many people suffer with this disease and your feedback will let many of them know that they have a viable way to get relief! I am very happy that it worked so well for you, Helen!

I'm sorry you can't get the bulk melatonin powder in Canada and have to use 90 capsules just to make one batch! These type of government restrictions are incredible for something that has a better safety profile than almost any prescription medication!

Please keep in mind that many people who have tested melatonin lotion have mentioned that the benefit seemed to modestly increase for the first two or three weeks before leveling off by the third week.

Art


Q&A
Posted by Helen B (British Columbia, Canada) on 07/15/2024

So I tried the link you shared and they said that Melatonin powder is not allowed to be shipped to Canada plus many other countries. So I went ahead and used the capsules I had purchased. The additional ingredients in these capsules are gelatin, magnesium stearate, maltodextrin and microcrystaline cellulose. When I googled these ingredients I saw that they are also in skin care products so I decided to go ahead and make the melatonin lotion recipe with the capsules, to be clear the capsules have the powder in them. There were 90 capsules in the bottle which equaled 900mg of melatonin.

This is the recipe that I used which I adjusted down to work with 900mg of melatonin:

900mg melatonin (90-10mg capsules)

1.35 oz (40ml) gin

2.25 oz (66.5ml) lotion

I added the gin to the powder and it did not dissolve completely but it may have if I added more, I just assumed that the other ingredients perhaps did not dissolve in the gin. I then added the lotion and mixed it well. It is a bit grainy in texture but goes on smooth and absorbs great.

Now the good news, it works!!! I have fibromyalgia and I am always getting new pains and some go after a while and some stick around and are so bad I can't sleep. My newest pains were in my neck, shoulder, arm and hand and it was bad. I applied the lotion to my shoulder, neck and arm and when I woke up the next morning after sleeping the whole night! The pain was greatly reduced I couldn't believe it!

I am continuing to use it every night and just a touch during the day if I feel the need but my shoulder is 80% better, my arm and neck are being a bit more stubborn but at least 50% better and my hand is also 80% better. I have applied it to a sore bunion and that is pain free now!

I had started to use the magnesium oil in a spray bottle a while back with minimal help with pain but I continue to use it because I know it's good for me.

I also want to mention that I have tried all the prescriptions for Fibromyalgia non of which worked or worked enough to justify the side effects.

I do also take PEA400 (Palmitoylethanolamide) which has also helped me a fair amount and I would recommend to other Fibromyalgia sufferers.

The excellent results from using the melatonin lotion make me a little emotional because being in constant pain is hard on your spirit and I have finally found some relief and I can't thank you enough for sharing your knowledge with everyone! Thank you Art!


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 07/11/2024 2448 posts

Hi Tim,

In that article I describe how my friends made their melatonin lotion using melatonin in bulk powder form which is supposed to have no fillers. Your capsules have a lot of fillers and it will take 100 capsules to get to 1 gram or 1000 mg. Try and picture how much powder a 100 capsules will generate.

On ebay Canada they sell this bulk melatonin powder product, which looks like what they used :

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/204288878158?itmmeta=01J2G3Q0TTK52XFG5DQZHKECPN&hash=item2f9090e64e:g:YyYAAOSwg8VmTLf7&itmprp=enc:AQAJAAAA4AklIXHM+Dx/nPS44ilXYx2w/+ZPX4T4WBngGGsApNY/q3xQQ/P19K/sqK+H8YpdhFpbFG0/k/Z81N3Ro9zbQaTc10h9AzkrrF06H7SEaNGaHafi9ikEA3zXGROCvxN38NXn8AkJ6fC3FQxOea4mhdrWfhI6Wo7W2aN+FbV+maZJBgJcDiZZgmwOQcWJVR/JKUrviBCeFmoGGQR4rHPTFG0ZWQusXqMRdk5XMPWROPK1htr4JrhGoZygGNeA5I549feMCOSwSbilQL8HLzypBePMhYRGQegI8Jg/Bav8ZMO9|tkp:BFBMwI3cg5Rk

Art


Q&A
Posted by Tim (VIC) on 07/10/2024

Melatonin 1 gram

Hi My first ever post. Yay! Art gave a fantastic post on making melatonin topical pain recipe. I only have a bottle of melatonin capsules 10mg. How many capsules would = 1 gram? I am horrible with maths, so I tried but couldn't figure it out myself. Thanks very much earthclinic community for all your advice. 🥰

Where to Buy: Canada
Posted by Mike (North) on 07/07/2024

This is not quite true, melatonin is available over the counter in Canada but only in pill form up to 10mg I believe. Bulk powder does not appear to have the same freedom.


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 07/06/2024 2448 posts

Thank you very much for saying so, Tessa! I greatly appreciate your kind words!

Art


Q&A
Posted by Tessa (Okanagan) on 07/06/2024

Hi Art -

I just want to thank you for always going the extra mile to make it easier for people to understand the information (links, pictures, etc.).

I've learned so much over the years from you and others like you (e.g., Mama to Many) who not only write an informative post, but are considerate while doing so.

Cheers!


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 07/05/2024 2448 posts

Hi EB,

What I am referring to is a measuring teaspoon that is one fourth of a level full teaspoon that is part of a set that bakers use in baking as illustrated below. They are available at such places as Target, Walmart, markets etc. in the baking section. More specifically, look at the one marked 1/4 tsp (1/4 teaspoon). This is the size I use, filled level full with melatonin powder to make a 3 ounce bottle of melatonin lotion. The directions for making it are in the original article here :

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/topical-melatonin-pain-relief-success-stories.html

Art


Q&A
Posted by EB (England) on 07/04/2024

Art, I would like to make melatonin lotion without a scale.

What do you mean by a "quarter measuring teaspoon" of melatonin powder? Do you mean a measuring spoon which is a teaspoon measure?

Q&A
Posted by Helen B (British Columbia, Canada) on 06/26/2024

Thanks for the link Art! And all your help :o)


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 06/26/2024 2448 posts

Hi Helen,

In the original article I wrote about melatonin lotion, I described how my friends made their melatonin lotion using the bulk powder form of melatonin which has no fillers or additives. On the other hand, capsules and pills have multiple fillers which will not work very well for making the lotion because the fillers are a significant amount of extra powder. You might try following the original recipe which calls for using bulk powder such as this, which appears to be available on ebay Canada :

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/204288878158?itmmeta=01J1APMD6T1P5D4VSQ0DEZE0KG&hash=item2f9090e64e:g:YyYAAOSwg8VmTLf7&itmprp=enc:AQAJAAAA4AklIXHM+Dx/nPS44ilXYx1wQY86elI4equeDRL4UoWu1bQPl8e/NyLVJ2JF9oOMExAUPjhVWmWk6nLy5/yWZXP5+qvlUGSvYl57YqdAqNlNRDL+8gPvtoLlkx21zxIJpqQEjGtQNyzsUL+R+WEoqCQrp3QzpimWdOZdMS3MU4e6vmYepGUa0ZQ7gg+DEU/H1D6Z95xLJs/U0UpyqGtjIv/LxYSIcFViLCWee4U1XA6lbG81YHGbCeAqF/uPGCC735rrIoT3JDkWPdMQA+sm5ZlfL/sb2FK+/tMx+W2+bO6W|tkp:BFBMvtPR1opk

Art


Q&A
Posted by Helen B (British Columbia, Canada) on 06/25/2024

Thanks for all your help so far Art!

I have an additional question about the melatonin recipe. It calls for 1 gram of melatonin powder. I have purchased a bottle of 90 capsules of 10mg strength melatonin which if I understand correctly is 900mg, 10 capsules short of 1 gram. Am I correct in my math and will it still be strong enough for the pain relief benefits?

(I found a store with 50 ml bottles of gin!! :o) )

Thank you so so much for all the help you have given me!

Helen


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 06/24/2024 2448 posts

Hi Helen,

I believe that based on a human fibromyalgia study utilizing melatonin, that the melatonin lotion(ML) should be useful for fibromyalgia pain.

In addition, also based on a human study, I believe that magnesium chloride spray, generally referred to as "mag oil" may be additive to the ML.

Here is a typical mag oil product on Amazon :

https://www.amazon.com/Magnesium-Oil-Spray-STRENGTH-Essential/dp/B01N0KQ9QJ/ref=sr_1_6?crid=19VMS06AB5Z70&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.205sAfn2UmAcD-3HmhcmjrQo770fyIZ5axVGz2Ykw1Q7_2fmcZMBUFRRu8auHUISUkjS8SqtPEbKil70YVLPS5R_HUEMAnaRzaX7bbQDHQQPZbdHVArG_9a0fbxMoiEOP5zFDwhMZCZ83Hw8xtksFagK-OKhqVWsZLpkNfqJhsA_saQ7hLibXlsi-j6jdm2vbzr9mFRIObYw5K2HcS1S2-nHaOy88HEkSOoZZZ3UYVMq6PNVSV4S0-EgMA9oy8wOw-VzfVsXc1KQQsY3jAGRqiKLXEPmunCU2FBIfVeIZ8s.0bjgkLA68bZ6OCwug5WZVkGxndN3UxS_YiJyf8mFc-Y&dib_tag=se&keywords=mag+oil+spray&qid=1719279744&sprefix=mag+oil,aps,176&sr=8-6

It may be worth trying both individually and together to see which is the best option for you.

Please come back and let us know what your testing results determine.

Art


Q&A
Posted by Helen B (British Columbia, Canada) on 06/24/2024

Thank you so much for your response!

I am hoping this lotion will help with my fibromyalgia pain.


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 06/23/2024 2448 posts

Hi Helen,

Yes, vodka can work, but in my experience it requires more vodka than gin to fully dissolve the melatonin powder, resulting in a more watery lotion. I don't recommend using rubbing alcohol. If you want to use gin, perhaps you can leave your large bottle with a trusted friend to hold for you until needed again and only take enough to make one bottle of lotion at a time.

Art


Q&A
Posted by Helen B (British Columbia, Canada) on 06/23/2024
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This isn't a review, it's a question.

Is it possible to make this with rubbing alcohol or vodka? I ask because I am an alcoholic and the only gin I can get is in a larger bottle and I don't want the temptation of the remainder and I am not sure I would pour out what I don't need. I can get a 50ml bottle of vodka tho and rubbing alcohol is something I have on hand. Thanks for any help!

Migraines
Posted by Art (California) on 05/17/2024 2448 posts
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Re : Melatonin's Topical Benefits: 40 Ways It Soothes Pain And One Benefit Confirmed In Human Study

Item #4 mentions that one of my friends found significant relief for migraine headaches which usually last them about a week and now are over in less than a day. This new study (May, 2024) adds confirmation to the idea that melatonin relieves migraine headaches as discussed here :

https://ijms.sums.ac.ir/article_49688.html

Here is a relevant study quote :

' Our study shows that melatonin was more efficacious than the placebo in the reduction of frequency and duration of migraine attacks. It was equally safe as the placebo and might be effective in the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. '

Art

Where to Buy: Canada
Posted by susanmaria (buffalo) on 05/08/2024

Do you know anyone in Ontario, Canada? They can drive over the border and purchase it in the US at most large grocery stores or health food stores for you. I get a bad case of sleeplessness starting in February due to lack of sunshine. What works for me is tanning/a vacation in Florida getting lots of natural sunshine or a valerian tinture. Also taking progesterone/biest if you are a woman and menopausal.


Where to Buy: Canada
Posted by Guzin (Vancouver Canada) on 05/02/2024

Hi Art,

Thank you very much.

looking forward to try your melatonin lotion for pain. I will post my results.


Where to Buy: Canada

Where to Buy: Canada
Posted by Guzin (Vancouver BC Canada) on 05/01/2024

Hello Earth Clinic, I am not able to find any melatonin powder. Just wondering if anyone knows where to order it from? Regards

Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 04/18/2024 2448 posts

Hi Mary P,

So the one quarter teaspoon is all melatonin and it equals approximately 750 mg of melatonin. You have to consider that melatonin capsules contain a significant amount of fillers so it will take much more than a 1/4 teaspoon of these capsules to get to 750 mg of actual melatonin. It will take the amount of capsules that it takes to equal 750 mg of melatonin. So if you have 10 mg capsules, it will take approximately 75 of these 10 mg capsules to get to that 750 mg area and you can see that 75 capsules is going to be way more than a quarter teaspoon.

There will also be a problem with the solubility of the fillers which may not dissolve in gin and will make the lotion feel gritty. Another potential problem is that some of the fillers may dissolve in the gin, but that may preclude the melatonin from fully dissolving in the gin in which case you will essentially have a diluted mix which may not be effective at all.

I recommended melatonin powder because that is what my friends used and found effective. Since those first three friends reported their results, many other friends and acquaintances have also reported significant benefits from using that same mix.

I highly recommend following what they did in order to make an effective melatonin lotion.

A few friends have reported that mixing all three ingredients together at once by mistake, produced a lotion that gave little to no pain relief. You have to thoroughly dissolve the melatonin in the gin first and then add the lotion to that mix, otherwise the lotion will offer little to no benefit.

Art


Q&A
Posted by Mary P (Utica NY) on 04/18/2024

Hi Art! I have melatonin caps… can I open them and prepare this recipe? We only need a 1/4 teaspoon.


Psoriasis and Hyperpigmentation
Posted by Art (CA) on 04/03/2024 2448 posts
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This new study suggests melatonin lotion is effective in treating mild to moderate psoriasis:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/srt.13689

Here is a relevant study quote :

' Also a significant decrease of 35% (mean (SD) of 2.67 (0.98) to 1.74 (1.12)) and 51% (mean (SD) of 2.67 (0.98) to 1.31 (1.13)) in PASI score, and 40% (mean (SD) of 5.00 (1.58) to 3.00 (1.76))and 61% (mean (SD) of 5.00 (1.58) to 1.92 (1.71)) in DSS score on days 30 and 60 with melatonin cream, 5% w/w (P < 0.001) compared with baseline were observed, respectively. In each of the melatonin or rosuvastatin groups, DLQI improved significantly on days 30 (P < 0.0001) and 60 (P < 0.001) while the changes in the control group were not significant. '

I had already reported that it was synergistic with certain psoriasis medications in the list of 40 items (#34) and helped eczema of the scalp (#6) while other studies suggest it can be useful for atopic dermatitis and other skin conditions, as discussed here :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9967801/

Here is a relevant quote :

' It has cytoprotective, immunomodulatory, and anti-apoptotic effects. Melatonin is also one of the most powerful natural antioxidants, directly acting on free radicals and the intracellular antioxidant enzyme system. Furthermore, it participates in antitumor activity, hypopigmentation processes in hyperpigmentary disorders, anti-inflammatory, and immunomodulating activity in inflammatory dermatoses, maintaining the integrity of the epidermal barrier and thermoregulation of the body. Due predominantly to its positive influence on sleep, melatonin can be used in the treatment of sleep disturbances for those with chronic allergic diseases accompanied by intensive itching (such as atopic dermatitis and chronic spontaneous urticaria). According to the literature data, there are also many proven uses for melatonin in photoprotection and skin aging (due to melatonin's antioxidant effects and role in preventing damage due to DNA repair mechanisms), hyperpigmentary disorders (e.g., melasma) and scalp diseases (such as androgenic alopecia and telogen effluvium). '

It seems that we are just scratching the surface of what melatonin lotion can do!

Art


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 03/31/2024 2448 posts

Hi Hollyhock,

Thank you for the feedback!

When applying to the neck, testers have reported best effects by applying all the way up to the top of the neck, above the hairline to the base of the skull.

I tried applying the lotion to my face, but it really irritated my eyes. The aloe/melatonin mix did not irritate my eyes at all when applying to the face area around the eyes.

Art


Q&A
Posted by Hollyhock (America ) on 03/31/2024

Thanks Art! I would say it only has helped a little, but it does have a relaxing effect (I only use it at night before bed). I also apply some on my neck, which gives me trouble, and it relaxes that area. I will continue using it for such benefit! I never thought about applying to my face, I will give that a try as well! Thank you for the idea and the recipe!


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 03/30/2024 2448 posts

Hi Hollyhock,

Thank you for the feedback on using Aloe Vera Gel as a substitute for Cetaphil lotion to make melatonin lotion. I make the same aloe/melatonin mix because I can apply it to my face without irritating my eyes. Melatonin is considered beneficial for the skin among its many attributes and aloe gel has shown the ability to act as a transdermal penetration enhancer while also being beneficial for the skin, so the two together seems like they should be more beneficial for the skin than either one alone. I am satisfied with the aloe/melatonin combo for my face but I haven't written about it previously on EC.

I still use the Cetaphil mix also because it can be more moisturizing in areas of application over dry skin.

I remember you saying you were going to make the lotion about four months ago, but I never saw your feedback. Did it help your hip and back pains and have you found any other uses for it?

Thank you again for the feedback!

Art


Q&A
Posted by Hollyhock (America ) on 03/30/2024

I've been using the clear aloe vera gel available in stores. It works nicely. :)


Q&A
Posted by Art (California) on 03/29/2024 2448 posts

Hi Dawna,

I just used Cetaphil because it has been around for a long time and is readily available, but I think most lotions will work. Be sure to completely dissolve the melatonin in the gin before adding the lotion to the bottle.

Art



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