Natural Cures for Cardiac Arrhythmia

This sounds ~exactly~ like my situation and I can confirm how annoying it is.... Could you please give details regarding your dosages and when you took them? With food, without, etc? I've searched these forums and found many helpful hints. I completely agree with you on thanking everyone who has contributed! This is my go-to site for anything regarding physiology. Thank you all!

What exactly is your protocol?

I'm going through the same thing. I also would like to know your regimen. Thanks.

Hi Lisa,

Just reading through new posts and saw yours.

I'd simply start with something! If not taking magnesium I suggest it to anyone anyway...so that would be a daily protocol. So very helpful with many things including heart and actually arrhythmia can be a sign of magnesium deficiency. Also arrhythmia is very common with PeriMenopause/Menopause...though not sure if that applies to you! :)

I do a minimum of 250mg of magnesium daily and it helped almost immediately.

I also know the great benefits of cayenne and hawthorne (both wonderful separately and together) I'd try and find a combination of these in a capsule or liquid tincture and if it were me, start with one dropperful 2x a day or 1 capsule 2x a day...I play with my own dosages so you'd have to see what works for you. Can always increase.

I actually take ACV anyway each morning...about a TBSP with a pinch of baking soda to help keep my urinary tract in good order...so you may or may not have to take it. I'd try one or 2 things at a time so you see what's working.

Katy

Thanks Katy for your reply. I'm going to the store today.

I want to try these natural remedies. I have been taking the ACV for years but now I am most interested in the Heart Calm. Couldn't take the meds (Eliquis, xarelto) . Lasted one dose. I am on baby aspirin now but makes my stomach hurt so just added Prilosec. I am assuming if I try these natural remedies I should go off the aspirin?

Also, will magnesium mess up a finicky stomach? Can't take any of the regular meds and desperately want to go the natural way. Stomach is always an issue and eat carefully.

Thanks for any help.

Take Magnesium glycinate 400 mg at night. It does not cause GI upset and has good absorbtion.

Congratulations! Now you have to figure out what has actually worked. I bet it is magnesium. While other 3 are beneficial for general health, I doubt they provided such a fast relief. Cayenne increases circulation and is a vasodilator. Molasses is great source of minerals, but watch your serum ferritin levels, 40-60 is optimal. Apple cider vinegar is almost a panacea, it changes your blood reaction toward a healthy one, but it takes time.

Can you tell me what ACV is, please? I really want to try the remedy you mentioned! Sorry I've forgotten your name. As soon as I'd hit Reply, it went out of my head!

Thanks Keith, I have now found out that ACV stands for apple cider vinegar! I have just gone out and bought some organic blackstrap molasses and cayenne. I already had apple cider vinegar in the house, and also I have a spray magnesium which you either rub into your skin or spray in the mouth. You didn't mention how much cayenne to use, so I tried a small amount, and it nearly blew my head off! I will use just a pinch next time. I will be thrilled if I have the same results as you with the heart stuff.

Sorry for the late reply. I take 530mg cayenne/garlic 3 times per day with food. I've also added potassium. I've done more research as I've had a couple recent occurrences. I've found that, as others have, alcohol seems to be a contributing factor. I thought back about the correlation as others indicated and it seemed to be the same for me. I'm abstaining from alcohol and see if that helps. I have a feeling I'll be giving up that cold beer. I've found in reading that my symptoms are; a beer or two, the evening before and the next day I have a arrhythmia onset that lasts a couple days. Most of the indications are that alcohol depletes essential elements and dehydrates the body. At age 64 I guess some things are bound to catch up with you. I'll post more when I've had time to test my alcohol theory.

Keith,

Can you or anyone who is reading can please tell me how much of ACV, mollasses, cayenne, and Magnesium you have mixed. What form of Mag. you have used. I went to store today, but got confused, There are so many types of Mag. availale. Please help. I feel very low energy with the symptoms of uneven heartbeats.

Try the combination Cal/mag/Zinc - or Cal/Mag/D3. however, I can't take D3 at night. Too energizing. Many times they have two types of Magnesium in the combination. Magnesium Oxide and Magnesium Gluconate is what is in the brand I got. The Brand was Best Naturals. It had a high rating. Get a high rated brand on amazon, or another place. CALM with Calcium also seems to help me. It's a powder you put in hot water. I add a touch of juice so it will taste better. Be sure and take a tsp or 2 of apple cider vinegar (with mother) (brown stuff at bottom) with water, and try 2 TBL of Molasses too. Can't hurt. Filled with minerals.

Am 70 years old and developed some cardiac arrhythmia's over the last 8 months. Really disturbing since during the rapid heart beat sessions I wasn't sure whether or not "this was it." Have HBP which I am taking prescription meds for - Diovan and Atenolol.

I Googled "natural cures for cardiac arrhythmia's and found this site. We had "Calm" in the house but I never took it. After reading this blog, I decided to give it a try. All I can say is after a month my arrhythmia has all but disappeared. I am doing the ACV and molasses regimen as well. Doing 4 - 6 grams of C with Lysine. Got some "MagTech" caps with triple magnesium. Take 4 of those a day. Also recommend Astaxanthin too.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR SAVING MY LIFE.
The Old Chief

To Old Chief- in Cedar Creek, Texas. So glad it my comment on CALM w/ Calcium may have re-confirmed that helped you!! I would like to know if you are taking the 3 heaping tsps. it calls for, or just 1 heaping tsp. I'm still having problems almost every night right now, and don't know whether to increase the CALM dosage to 2 or 3 (like it calls for)..... those PVCs have me really going tonight. Brought on by adrenalin surges from "something!! " or lack of minerals needed in my body- or lack of something needed. The Cal/Mag/Zinc pills don't seem to help much if you take them at night- maybe don't have time to get into the system. But the CALM w/ calcium gets right in. If you take too much, can cause some loose stools. But I'll settle for that anytime- over PVCs!!!! I have not tried the C w/ Lysine. But I'm willing!! I'm taking the ACV twice a day, and usually take a tbls or so of molasses. I'm also on beta blocker- Sectral twice day, and Klonopin a couple hours before bed. My Dr. said to take it during the day too. Perhaps I should start earlier in the day with the Klonopin to get my body more relaxed for the upcoming night.

Friends, keep posting what works for you. I need to know. I've fought this for 30 plus years, but the last few weeks it's gotten much worse- esp. at night. There are a lot of changes going on in my life right now. Although, I don't think I'm upset- there probably is anxiety going on.

One other thing I've noticed is; if I feel "bloated", that seems to bring the PVCs on in spades!! Alka-Seltzer can help, but I've also found GAS-X or something similar may help.

thanks for any input!! I'm getting tired of taking hours to go to sleep because the arrhythmias are keeping me awake. I awake in the morning feeling fine (after they finally subside enough to get to sleep)

Hi Ya'll, I'm back with some good news about what I have found that helped my heart arrhythmias! I have been almost symptom free now for two weeks. Read on:

I was having lots of PVCs at night, every night. I believe they were brought on by stress, but I've had problems with this type thing for 30 years. However, they were not much of a problem after menopause....until a several weeks ago. Then WHAM! Every night!! For hours!

I read a lot of posts on this site, and took to "heart" your advice. These are things I tried and what worked best for me;;

The Single best thing that seems to work for me is HEART CALM by Vita Biologics, 3 times a day. It is Magnesium combination with Potassium, Taurine and CoQ10. I tried other magnesium supplements, but this combination seems to work best. BY FAR!!

Also, I got HAWTHORN HERBAL TEA by FLora on amazon.com, which contains; Hawthorn leaves and flowers, Hibiscus, Hawthorn berries, passion flower, licorice root, roasted chickory root. The bags are individual wrapped and fairly large to make a large mug of tea. I also added a tea bag of Chamomile with it. I happen to grow Lemon Balm, so I usually put a small handful of lemon balm in also. But I had tried the Chamomile and Lemon Balm together many times, and the HAWTHORN TEA seems to make the difference. HAWTHORN is a good heart builder.

The other thing I take is a couple droppers full of Motherwort extract. Although I had found Motherwort to help a lot over the years, it was not touching this problem by itself! (the last few weeks)

And one more thing I started doing is MAGNESIUM OIL during my bath time. I could not stand to spray it on my body dry- as it would itch and make me miserable. I found if I first washed my upper body and rinsed, then sprayed over my chest and upper arms- rubbing it in, then took my time in the bath, it did not itch at all, and I when I dry off, I leave the chest area wet with the MAGNESIUM OIL- as it should set on body for 20 minutes or so. The magnesium oil had NOT relieved the heart palpitations before I added the HEART CALM, however- I wasn't able to spray much on until I learned the trick about applying it to wet skin.

I believe the main thing that is helping and has almost completely stopped the problem of arrhythmias at night is the HEART CALM magnesium combination!! The very first night, after taking the HEART CALM and the HAWTHORN TEA, I had much fewer heart palpitations. I'm still doing the other things above, and eventually will drop off one of the things above, but will not quit taking this HEART CALM! If I run out of tea (or forget to drink it- HAWTHORN), I will notice if that makes a difference or not.

I am so delighted to give report this good news. I read it all here on this forum.

One thing that did not help by itself for me- was the blackstrap molasses (or any type) I don't think it had enough of what I needed, plus the sugar effect may not be the best thing for night. I tried that for several nights before I read about and ordered HEART CALM- and did not get relief from the molasses.

So, I take one Heart Calm in the morning, one in afternoon, and one an hour or so before bedtime.

A word of caution about the drug CIPRO. (for bacterial infections) It can cause heart rhythm aggravation and even a different type of rhythm problem. I found that I can not take that drug. It also causes headaches and stomach bloating in me.

HOPE THIS HELPS ALOT OF YA'LL!! My heart doctor almost laughed in my face when I suggested that I might need more magnesium or something lacking!!! Wait until I tell him the difference this combination is making! When EVER I decide to go back. Why is it that they give magnesium in hospitals for heart problems, but laugh at taking magnesium supplements when you're not at that point of severity??

I confirmed about the magnesium supplementation in book called The Magnesium Factor just this week. I may post another post on things I found out from that book.

Sorry this was so long.

Just saw your post - looks like you are doing better from the post below. Thanks ChiefVic

Hi Old Chief,

I am just down the road from you in Red Rock. TNX for bringing up the use of CALM. I know they sell it at the Bastrop Producers Market on HWay 71 right near you (512) 308 9989. They have lots of great stuff in there.

Magnesium is definitely important, but I have been on 1000 mg magnesium for years, and the arrhythmia is still there. I think general guidelines are probably in place in terms of what and how much of a supplement one should take; however, our bodies are different and our environments are different as well. I am still struggling with getting AFIB under control. The Cayenne helped some, but not by itself. It seems to help better with lemon juice and Maple syrup. (Master cleanse). Still waiting for the CALM to arrive. Still hoping for natural cure...don't want the toxic meds.

hi Keith

Thanks for your post.

I have had cardiac problems since birth but have been with all types of arrhythmia for the past three years. I am in my thirties and like everyone on here it can be debilitating. I have found this site very helpful and have had molasses which worked like magic.

Although I have respect for my cardiologist I have carried out my own research and have found Coconut water works wonders. I cannot recommend it enough. We are given medications and though they all have their function they are not a cure. Sometimes they do more harm than good and I know this from experience. They also steal nutrients and fluids from our bodies. There is a link between electrolytes and our normal heart function. I started looking into dehydration and went from there.

I hope you are feeling ok now its good to know none of us are alone in this. Keep positive!

:)

To Sharon/Tn:

Thanks! I have used "Calm" by "Natural Vitality" but it is just Magnesium. Maybe I should try tis one by Biologics? I also think spraying my body with Mg oil has helped me probably because I absorb it better than through all the supplements I have tried! And I was told to look into Dr.Carolyn Dean and she also recommends Mg with taurine in it (Magnesium taurate) so I had read about Taurine somewhere and have been taking that 1000mg a day.Just went off the "flecanide" as I couldn't stand the way I felt on it anymore! And it didn't keep the afib away any longer than it was when I only took 1 tablet(50mg) so I'm not taking 2 anymore and plan to get off the 1 if I get better results with these supplements! I can always take the "flec" if I get the episode to get me back to NSR.I did do that before but docs convinced me that if I took everyday, I wouldn't get it as often! Well, that didn't pan out now did it! So let's hope I can keep it at bay wuth supplemants on my own.I do take low dose betablocker at night for whatever it's worth! Don't know if it helps or not!

Keep posting your results! Thks!

I make my own cayenne pepper capsules - very easy - I take 1 morning, 1 evening with a little milk, as it is then kinder on my tummie

Thanks for the info about heart calm And hawthorn tea. I am low on magnesium pills. Will order these today.

After years on nexium, before I wised up, my arrhythmia became worse, especially at nite. I started taking magnesium, Epsom salt baths and magnesium spray with aloe Vera. So much better now. Has anyone noticed that arrhythmia happens after drinking cold liquids?

Thanks for sharing info.

I noticed some correlation with alcohol, too. If it is true, that means that heart palpitations relate more than anything to digestion, your gut bacteria (or any yeasts you might have) and how this affects your liver, which in turn affects you blood composition, and only then, as the result of all the above - you get palpitations. So perhaps curing digestion first will cure everything else.

Anyone has specific knowledge on this subject to share, such as the diet and other related things you could post here?

On another subject, it is hard for me to take magnesium - it irritates my stomach. Even the magnesium oil applied to skin has strange unpleasant effects on my body (even though my skin is not irritated much at all.)

Excellent discussion, thanks for sharing.

Indeed, my Chinese doctor of acupuncture told me about gastrocardiac pressure, and one of my N.D.s actually taught me a technique to pull the stomach down (a form of abdominal massage), all to support healthy digestion and to relieve that upwards pressure. I learned over the past few years that with arrythmia it can be a total hit and miss as far as remedies and cures go. Different things work for different people as we are all so very unique, and we all may have completely different causes of arrythmia (brought on by the metamorphosis of menopause in my case). I find it immensely interesting to study different healing traditions with their unique view of the same matter. Fascinating our bodies (and minds)... even when they sometimes scare the living hell out of us (arrythmia or anything involving the heart is more than just a bit scary in my opinion), especially when - like in my case - I went from doctor to doctor for years, without lasting results. I finally landed at homeopathy. And I swear by healing and nourishing herbs!!! I always highly recommend the works by Susun Weed. The most charismatic herbalist in the wise woman tradition I have come across.

I am a nurse on a cardiac floor. Arrhythmia can be very dangerous so do not take any chances see a doctor. Low potassium and low magnesium are the first two culprits we look for with arrhythmia. This probably explains your symptoms and the relief you got after taking a magnesium supplement.

There are indeed many different 'causes' for heart arrythmia. I have as a matter of fact been seen by a cardiologist (not a holistic one but still the rather stone age type of conventional one, and was cleared of any and all heart pathology, as well as of electrolyte imbalances and/or deficiencies. Also, every single test done on me (and there were many between the dozen of physicians I visited) came back negative. None of my symptoms matched their criteria or pattern for a dis-ease. I learned real fast that I am indeed the sole authority on my body, and what happens to and with it. The heart is so much, much more than what we are told it is, and it takes a very open mind to take that new information in.

There are a few seriously great books available on the subject of the energetic heart, not the supposed pump in our bodies (the least important and very minor function of the heart), and related physical manifestations of energetic disturbances. Everything is energy. Since there is no separation between energies it follows that everything affects everything, period. I also learned the most important lesson I could ever have learned, and it was very necessary to let my heart be the teacher: I can completely heal myself. Sure, the correct nutrition for the individual (one has to know oneself instead of following rules here as well, there are none), some supplementation - if necessary at times -, daily prolonged exposure to raw nature (wild forests, mountains, near fast flowing rivers, etc.) and unfiltered sunlight in the early morning hours, chemical free and toxin free food, a deep spiritual connection (note, I am not saying religion), working with instead of against nature and her laws, implementation of our plant friends (some of the best healing modalities we have at our disposal), and for some coaching, when needed, a fast forward thinking stellar physician or herbalist, these things I consider essential for holistic healing. The conventional medical field is ignorant about most of these things, relying on dangerous and ineffective methods of treatment. I am happy I learned my lesson and know that I can fully and completely trust my heart, in fact, my entire body. It does never betray me, even when some things appear very scary on the surface. When I went into cardiology in the beginning I approached the staff there with ideas they could/would not understand. Those were things not being taught at medical colleges. But that is okay as I realize that we are all at very different learning levels. Another thing often left out of consideration when ANY unexplained physical things happen to our bodies: Many people who are energy sensitive also react to energies hitting earth from outer space, even interdimensionally (try to inform a conventional doctor of that fact...). It is actually a well known fact that some heart arrythmia in some people are a direct result of extreme solar flare output. I could go on and on and on, but those who know what I am talking about and who have experienced this kind of symptom, are already far beyond the material aspect of nutrition and exercise, etc., etc. They ARE somewhat important, yes, but not the alpha and omega. With this being said I wish all of you who still have heart arrythmia or other 'problems' a speedy and full recovery, and complete healing (and yes, it is absolutely within your reach as long as you don't elevate your doctors onto a pedestal where they probably should not be, and as long as you do YOUR parts and listen and acknowledge your bodies, the physical as much as the ethereal ones, respect and honor them, and converse with nature in all her forms). Sending blessings to all out there:)

What kind of magnesium?

I didn't realise what was going on; the tired legs, lightheadedness until finally a doctor was around at a crucial time; I'd had a really strong incident with dry mouth and pain in left arm! Had arrythmia verified 2 times but I know its an allergic reaction and heart releases histamines. I've had one doc. agree with me but others think I'm a bit crazy. I don't want to start taking beta-blockers....I don't mess with medication. Anyone else experience this. It was happening today pollen or something in the air. Other than that I know my heart is just fine.

What did you do for A-Fib (heart fluttering)?

GARY T....That's why I come to Earth Clinic to help!!!!

I'm wondering if a toxic mold caused your trouble, such as from peanuts or contaminated water. ACV is vinegar which is antifungal, and magnesium and cayenne would clear your bowels quickly.

Is there a particular book or books you recommend?

thanks for your post

can you pls let me know for how long did you use the protocol

and the amount of cayenne pepper

(I'm 60 and the dr like me to use pacemaker)

thanks for your time

mariana

Indeed!!! Be very careful.

For a bladder infection treatment, I was took Cipron XL 1G. It was a life- and-death situation since I had to run to hospital emergency on the 2nd day of treatment as my pulse was 200 and an obvious strong chest pain. After this episode my arrhythmia worsened.

=How are you feeling now? I am going through the same thing currently.

Both are diuretics.

You may benefit from electrolytes, potassium, magnesium - but probably avoid sodium. Caffeine will cause the body to eliminate potassium and hang on to sodium, so avoiding sodium when using caffeine in your case may be a good idea. But sodium helps with detox and hydration, so avoiding caffeine is likely the better plan. 🌞

Hi Nan,

I'm down the road from you in Asheville. Am just curious about whether your episodes of arrhythmia stayed away with the use of ACV? Thanks.

While vinegar is good for a lot of things, arrythmia is not one of them. Arrythmia is a sign of low magnesium. Vinegar has no magnesium. Look at the label.

Hey Sandydmc I use Apple Cider Vinegar every morning. I mix a tablespoon of it and a cap full of lemon juice in my water and drink it daily, but if you don't like tart stuff then use a teaspoon of each in a 8 oz glass. I buy the Acv with the mother in it, it is better, I also care for my husband's grandad and he has a time with a sore throat due to he had acid reflux iin the past and it damaged his throat so I fix him a 2 teaspoons of vinegar 2 teaspoons of lemon juice and some honey in a coffee cup with water and heat it as a tea. It soothes his coughing and stops his throat from hurting.

I hope people are not put off by the suggestion that cider apple vinegar is not worth taking. The huge point is none of us really know exactly how the body uses different foods. If people with heart conditions say it helps them then who are we to say otherwise.. even if we are scientists, we are not so very enlightened that we know it all, otherwise we would have a cure. We are all looking for an answer and I think we can only help each other with sites like this. BRILLIANT to not feel so alone. I know that cider vinegar with mama can't harm and it always makes me feel better when I include it as part of my diet. Through studying what many people have found, cider vinegar appears to help the body soak up some of the poisons in our systems that may well contribute to triggering an arrhythmia. Best we all keep our own fact sheets and post results for other to decide weather to try or not. Namaste everyone.

Apple cider vinegar or any raw vinegar, through a complex chemical process shifts your blood reaction toward what it considers healthy. That is why it is almost a panacea. Many through supplements and diet try to alkalize their blood, and this is what apple cider vinegar does for you.

It could help because it is a source of potassium. Electrolyte deficiency is one cause of ventricular fibrillation - the other is coronary artery disease. So it depends what type of arrythmia and what is causing the arrythmia.

In any case, I developed palpations twice- once when I was on a water fast (which a cardiac technician suggested. was because of electrolyte imbalance). The second time there was no obvious cause so looked up earth clinic and took some apple cider vinegar and it helped quite quickly.

It would be good if people have accurate diagnoses for what they have and then be able to test what works, e.g., ACV. I suspect that I may be prone to electrolyte imbalance but I have no proof or certainty about that:)

Apple cider vinegar contains iodine..... People with thyroid issues can experience voice changes and heart palpitations, they are sometimes treated with iodine.... I would have your thyroid checked.

Not sure if above statement is true? I thought ACV depletes the body from iodine?

How much baking soda, and is it mixed with acv?

I just tried half teaspoon ACV in some water after getting arrthymia from walking a flight of stairs and seems to do the trick. I get arrthymia off and on. My question is do I take ACV on as necesssary basis or should I take it routinely daily. Any recommendation appreciated.

Hi sorry it took so long to get back regarding the baking soda , you need to baking soda daily one level tspoon in the morning and one tspoon in the evening after your evening meal if that does not completely controll the ARYTTHMIA there has been success with taking MMS , I have read the book and it is written that most heart problems arrise from parrasites and viruses I have heard that the MMS eliminates the symptoms after taking MMS 8 to 9 hours a day for seven days, it kills dengie fever in 4 hours I have read , I can tell you now that I have been taking MMS NOW FOR 6 MONTHS it is not dangerous its good for you there are plenty of vidios you can watch on youtube dont just watch it was 3 months befor I started taking MMS after researching it my self , you must take aluminium free baking soda at least 2 times a day you find that after abour two or 3 days you may feel a difference how you feel. Good health :) Alan

Hi Amy from Vancouver, Hi Michael from Temes: I have stopped adding the baking soda with the cider vineger each time of use I found that may be the baking soda was neutralising the acid in the cider vineger hense making the baking inactive this is only an asumption but it seems to have a neutralising affect of the acid in the vineger otherwise I would not be able to tolerate the bitterness. Does that make sense? the cider vineger has a lot of nutrients so I do take it with the baking soda to get the benefits of the nutrients occasionally I still take the baking soda 2 times a day , a friend had a lot of hip pain after suggesting to take one tspoon of baking soda 2 to 3 times a day alone in a glass she woke up without the pain in her hips , so the dose is 2 to 3 level t spoons after meals in a glass of water , I recomend purchasing Ph strips to test your Ph regularly , Ph should be Alkaline at about 7.3 as alkaline too high can also cause asophical burns too

Can I mention a few points regarding the PH of a number o things. Soil PH 7.3 for healthy plants, 7.3 PH for swimming pools, 7.3 for water in cars by using anti freeze anty boil, PH 7.3 in cosmetics and thats just a few, this is to control the acid so as it does not have an adverse affects so why not get the inside of the BODY PH 7.3 RIGHT Alan

Alan from 12/15/2012: Alan from Toowoomba, Qld Australia :

Good Day....could you share what MMS is? I understand that "ACV" is Apple Cider Vinegar... It is greatly appreciated......

Hi Alan, you mentioned you read a book with this information, what is it called? Thanks! Sara

Check out Jim humble - MMS (magic mineral solution), although I think it has since changed it`s name. Jim is the gentleman who created it, I have some at home, a few drop a day keep the doctor away =)

I hate to appear so stupid, but what the heck is MMS? As for the soda, I looked up the dosage on the net and it says half a teaspoon daily. Which is right ?????Half a teaspoon or two teaspoons. There is a big difference here. Thanks (chuck)

How can I buy magnesium, my doctor did not like me to bring that up. She swears by the meds.

I am 30 have had arrhythmia for over two years and am constantly in the E.R. every month or two months. I have trouble because I take warfarin and my choices in treatment are limited. I have had my medications changed and, though they work for a while, lose their effect.

Anna, follow Dr. Carolyn Dean - have your magnesium RBC checked. Her site explains why most people go into afib.

Hi Anna,

Magnesium chloride is magic mineral. It can cure or prevent many diseases.

If I want to look at the hard copy of my blood tests, where on there can I find MAGNESIUM, and in addition, how well (or not) the blood is clotting? Sometimes they have abbreviations or codes like; A1C (Diabetes). Thanks in advance.

Hi Amys,

Since no one has answered you yet, I'll just share what little I am aware of.

I had to ask specifically for mag. level which is indicated "MAG" on my latest CBC. Under Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (CMP), I am not positive but I believe "K" is what tells you how well your blood clots. Maybe this link can help you.

K is potassium.

Don't take my advice alone, but I do not trust the rhythm and blood pressure meds. I had success like this: Go completely organic raw foods vegetarian. If you have to cook it, don't eat it. Fresh fruits and vegetables only. Organic only. You can eat a ton and you only get healthier. It is much easier to convert than you might ever dream. I never felt deprived or as if I were missing anything. After some time, non raw foods taste really nasty. If you insist on having animal proteins, use organic fermented milk products like Kefir or yogurt. For supplements I use all the ones that people say help and all the ones that studies show work. I take omega 3 oil, vitamin C, magnesium taurate (people on afib forums said non-chelated magnesium doesn't do anything for them and that they found magnesium taurate they found most effective), coenzyme Q10, hawthorne, rhodiola, aspirin, curcumin plus black pepper kernels (to make it absorbable by the body), heavy doses of probiotics (but you must start modest and work up slowly), Apple Cider Vinegar. Prevent, prevent, prevent. Study every supplement very well, and make your chosen supplements absolutely religiously. Once in awhile if I feel some odd symptoms, I'll prevent by having the beta blocker medicine before it goes wild. I have had no afib recurrences for more than a year. You may have to go for magnesium injections to get your cellular magnesium high enough for symptoms to go away. Blood tests do not accurately show how much magnesium you really have or really need. Sometimes the body can't absorb enough magnesium by supplements if the levels dip too low in your body. It's a chicken or the egg problem. If your magnesium drops low enough to have symptoms, then you are already too low to be able to absorb enough by food or supplement. You can also take Epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) baths for several weeks in order to get the right amount of magnesium back into your cells. Proper amounts of Magnesium in your cells is almost 20 times higher than outside your cells. If you happen to have sleep apnea, you absolutely must eliminate it. It can trigger episodes. I use a dental appliance to eliminate sleep apnea. If you have the money to do all this, spend it in order to get better. If you don't have the money, focus on magnesium. It's cheap. Raw foods will cost you about the same or less than eating fast food. The question is: Are you willing to do what it takes to get better? You have to be very clear on your answer to that.

I just read in Dr Caroline Dean's book The Magnesium Miracle, p. 245, that magnesium taurate is the recommended form of magnesium for people with heart problems ...it appears that the amino acid taurine may prevent arrythmias.

Taurine, an amino acid, does the trick all by itself! Take 1 tspn of Taurine powder mixed in water, perhaps only 1/4 Cup. It has virtually no taste. If you have an arrhythmia attack take it and w/in very few minutes, perhaps as long as 15, but usually less, it's completely gone.

I do take CoQ10 daily and Organic or Wildcrafted Hawthorn berry powder 2x a day. I take the Taurine morning and nite and any other time I might need it. I thought I had this totally under control and hadn't had arrhythmia in months, then I seem to go thru a month or so of several much reduced episodes. The taurine always fixes this. My sister had horrible attacks and this combo of Hawthorn and Taurine morning and nite has worked perfectly for her too, with the occasional additional episodes.. She then takes the same 1 tspn in water and it's over and done in a few minutes. I get my taurine in bulk on line. I get my Organic Hawthorne berry powder in bulk on line too. It's way cheaper than pills. Neither one has much flavor at all, so no problem drinking them. I'm happy to share the sources, but I guess I can't just write them here.

Hello all, I am on a low sodium diet, I have found that using potassium bicarbonate is generally far better than sodium bicarbonate. Actually you could mix the two in a favorable ratio. Dr. Richard D. Moore M.D. PHD suggests 4:1 of K to Na as an ideal ratio in general for the diet.

A source for potassium bicarbonate (food grade) is from wine maker suppliers as some wines require it's use during some stages of production. Presque Isle (online) is where I buy mine. Https://www.piwine.com/cgi-piwine/sb/productsearch.cgi?storeid=*148c4f20af3d50c710744125

Hi Gayle,

I had the same problem of skip heartbeats a few years ago. I went to the DR. had all kinds of tests and he said I didn't have skip beats. Well I did my own research and he was right, I didn't have skip heartbeat, but what I had was every second heartbeat was weak, and I could barely feel it when I took my pulse. This did not happen all the time, but it bother me. I read about magnesium and I started taking one capsule every day and I still had skip beats. I looked at the bottle that said 400mg, and instructions said take 4 per serving. Wow, no wonder it didn't help! I upped it to 2 capsules a day and my heart beats normally now. Thank you God.

Is that 50mg of magnesium daily? I take 500, and my husband 1,000mg. For the heart. Cayenne is chillies and even eating curry every day is not enough, try taking a capsule or two with your foods. Vitamin E for the heart, I like to get this is red palm oil, it also contains COQ10, lycopene. These are my suggestions but I emphatically recommend you increase a good quality magnesium. Your routine and food habits are really great otherwise and I wish you continued good health.

Hi Chris,

Magnesium oil and Sodium Bicarbonate would be good.

Excess Potassium in blood may also mean, kidneys which are not functioning to their full extent. Why not try out kidney friendly diet for a week, like low Potassium, low protein, small meals and hydration to flush out toxins?

You should also have your kidneys checked..they should not be spitting out potassium...

Jm: It was discovered some yrs back that a metabolite called Homocysteine was causing many cases of Heart disease. Homocysteine is kinda like a toxin or free-radical that causes damage to Arterial walls.

Researchers found that a malfunctioning Methylation system was to blame. The amino acid Methionine doesn't get methylated and turns into Homocysteine.

Nutrients like B-12, Folic Acid, TMG, DMG usually correct this. Personally I supplement almost daily a B-12/Folic Acid plus DMG and get excellent fat-burning results with 500mg Methionine. The B-12/Folic Acid/DMG combo decreases Homocysteine and increases SAM-e, and the health benefits of SAM-e are numerous. DMG alone health benefits are numerous. Check out Dr Kindall on YouTube here DMG

Where do you get sweet sorghum? Is it molasses? Thanks.

How do you apply the black salve? I'm guessing you just apply a dab to your arm and let it absorb into the blood stream?

Where do you get your black salve to take internally--i have used it externally.

Bhop, when I eat bran flakes I experience increase energy and other good effects but attribute nothing to vit/min content. Thanks for your post as this hypothesis may have some credibility. "Bran Flakes" is usually a mixture of oat, wheat, or other grain cereals that are relatively high in hemi cellulose and some cellulose fibers. These woody fibers travel down the intestines where they are not completely digested because of their woody structure. Somehow, as a bi-product of this incomplete digestive process, a medium chain fatty acid called Butyric Acid or Butyrate is formed. The number one fuel source for the colon is, guess what? Butyric Acid. So, eating foods that contain these woody fibers simply supercharges the colon. Two common foods that contain pre-formed Butyric Acid are eggs and butter. That little bit of rotten smell associated w/ these foods is the actual B.A. Commercial grade B.A. has historically been used as "stink bombs" for such radical activities as bombing anti-abortion clinics.

Anyway, two slices of whole grain wheat bread toasted and smeared w/ real cream butter gives a good boost for the colon. If correct, you should also experience better bowel movements; and somehow the health of the colon effects the heart, according to this hypothesis.

I suffered from arrhythmia for years until recently. Now that I know what I know, it doesn't surprise me that high fiber has helped others. The only thing that helped me was changing to a diet rich in plant fiber (from fresh vegetables and beans -- very little bread) with much less meat, minimal dairy, low salt and no white sugar or processed foods. I now eat huge salads, piles of beans, lots of fruit and nuts and seeds every day. When I get a craving for something sweet and satisfying, I throw some nuts, fruit and water into the blender and make a huge "milkshake", as my 5-year-old son calls it.

Aside from the arrhythmia vanishing, I am losing weight, my blood pressure is way down, my blood sugar has dropped, my dandruff and acne have cleared, my constipation has resolved and my hemorrhoids have all but disappeared. Consider reading Eat to Live. It changed my life.

Hi. I am very interested in the MAG/CAL vitman D3 result. How long before you notice a change? I have been having episodes every day (started two days ago when my heart rate when to 120 for over an hour and back up and down between 90-100-120.) I also get it alot when I eat certain foods. I do have heart conditions but in hindsight I have been doing good. I haven't been on any heart meds since I was an infant. I have had heart problems all my life. How long did you notice the change? I am almost willing to take these beta blockers. I am tired of dealing and being worried I am going to have an episode. I am looking for a natural route to go. I remember the first time I had an eposide it was New Years day of 2013. I ended up in ambulance and they told me I had SVT. My heart Dr says arrhythmia. I do need valve replacements but there is nothing phyiscally saying I need it immediately. I have had this issue for so long without any symptoms. I am hoping that if I do this Cal/Mag it will stop the paliplations. I just can't feel like this anymore.

Brian, well that's the way MDs get paid. And don't be so harsh on them, it's not their fault they are not trained as Nutritionists, but drug pushers. So they really do believe they have our best interest at heart. Good for you on self converting. Incredible the amount of $$ in the AF treatment world now, $20 billion a year. See why they don't like MG and other cheap supplements?

I looked up magnesium on the net and it says to be careful taking magnesium. It is toxic in large doses and it builds up in your system if it is not eliminated by your body quickly enough. I would be careful recommending it without some caution to the user. It could possibly harm someone with kidney disease that does not eliminate waste as quickly as a good set of kidneys.

All minerals have a deficiency, safe range, and toxic level.

If you take over 800 mg of mag. a day from all sources, including food, for over a week, you may start to experience weak muscles, a sign of toxicity, cut back to using a 400 mg supplement per day.

I thank you for the info. about things that have worked for all of you regarding arrhythmia problems. I've recently started getting them badly at night - guess when my body is depleted and tired. CALM w/Calcium powder (put in hot water) seems to help me a lot. The regular CALM doesn't do it for me (???) Anyway, thanks to your post, I have ordered a high rated type of Cal/Mag/Zinc by best naturals. I did not want to get the D3 included, because I've noticed if I take that too late in day, it can make me hyper (making arrhythmias worse at bedtimes - esp. a high dosage) So I take a 400 mg D3 in the mornings. That seems to work for me. I am 59 years old, and I have dealt with this problem since age 29, originally brought on by stress and hereditary. But these recent night time bad arrhythmias have been keeping me from going to sleep...until I get up and take the CALM plus Calcium. I also take 1/5 mg of Clonzepam- prescribed by the Dr. for anti-anxiety. These usually work if I'm under a stressful event, but don't seem to work as well late at night. To sum it up, I think it's a depletion of minerals at night, as well as tiredness. One more thing that might help a few is Motherwort tincture. It can ease palpitations. Oh, I am also going with the ACV (apple cider vinegar- with mother) and will try the 2 TBL of Molasses a day. Can't hurt. Don't forget to add water to the ACV!! THANKS! Love to hear others overcoming this!!

Sharon in Tennessee... I strongly urge you to look into the side effects from benzodiazepine drugs. The Clonazepam that you're taking for anxiety is a benzo. I have had my own experience with heart arrhythmia and finally figured out that my symptoms were caused by the Ativan (another benzo drug) I was taking for anxiety and insomnia. Your body develops a tolerance to the dose you're on, needing more and more of the drug. It's terribly addictive and can be VERY difficult to get off of. They cause your GABA receptors in your brain (and elsewhere in the body) to become down-regulated. You have to taper off of benzos very slowly and carefully, and even then there can be difficult withdrawals. But anyone on one of these drugs will eventually end up in the "tolerance" state. Long term use is associated with all kinds of awful health effects and a marked increase in Alzheimers. PLEASE look up "benzodiazepine withdrawal" and try to find the Ashton Manual online which is extremely helpful.

I am still suffering withdrawals more than two months after taking my last dose but am hopeful that my arrhythmia and other symptoms will eventually go away. I just couldn't not say something! I hope you don't mind.:) It's just that I know from experience these drugs end up causing more anxiety than you had to begin with, along with other things. There are all kinds of natural ways to approach anxiety. Best wishes...

Thanks Patti. I have just recently started taking the 1/2 mg of clonazepam a couple hours or less before I go to bed, because the Dr. thinks that it's anxiety causing the PVCs. Many nights, I wouldn't take it at all, and about 2:00 am, I would go ahead a reach for at least 1/3 of mg, to try to get to sleep. I've not taken these every day until lately. The Dr. actually wants me to take them twice per day, but like you, I don't want their effect to become addictive an unuseful. Clonzepam is the only anti-anxiety med that has helped me over the last 25 years. Xanax or Ativan did not help. Right now, nothing is seeming to help at night. I guess I should try to take 1/3 mg about mid afternoon, and then another 1/3 mg about an hour before bed. Perhaps the mid afternoon one would already have me in a relaxed state. I thank you for your input and will try to take less dosage, and not "more", I'm also on beta blocker- Sectral, which helps the speed of the heart, and blocks some adrenalin, but not enough to keep it from skipping.

Claire Weeks has some good books out (very old ones) about the heart being "sensitized" from anxiety or stress, and once it gets that way, it takes weeks or sometimes months to get it back to relaxing, not releasing the chemicals in body. I need to re-read those books. I am going through a lot of changes in my life right now. Not the woman "change" though- I'm 59. But several others in my life....that could have brought these on at night- when my body is tired. I've had problems with insomnia for months or longer, but did not usually have PVCs with it....

Thanks again. any other comments highly appreciated!!

I too have been diagnosed with an arrythmia (afib) and take 0.5 ativan per day.The afib gives me alot of anxiety and I think it helps. Also taking calcium, Magnesium, and other supplements, the latest of which is taurine. This arrythmia is driving me crazy and it is scary too! Had it for 3 years since I turned 60 yrs old. Wonder if it had something to do with loss of hormones! Will let you know if the taurine helps. Got info about Dr.Wolfson in Phoenix, Ariz.on this supplement. Good luck with yours!

I am not understand in your reply. what is CALM?

So sorry to hear it Shaun.

A friend of mine had an ablation recently and it has not stopped her heart irregularities, either.

SHAWN,,,,,, sorry to learn of your problems. I too have AFIB and my Anti-aging doctor said I probably need to have an Ablation procedure. I started to tell her to read between the lines as I raised my hand. Thought better as she keeps me perking. I use MD's for counsel, and if their counsel does not jive with my research, then I ignore them. That is what we all should do.

Doctors are like car salesmen. Their business is selling cars. I promise you that when I go to buy a car, I know far more about this car than the sale man. The same goes for MD's. I promise you that EC folks that study know more about their problem than a doctor. For instance, a doctor recently chimed in on EC about the strength of H2O2 . He did not know his fanny from a hole in the ground. I wanted to burn him, but restrained. We all knew he was a novice, but no one challenged him. I can promise you that my doctors fear me far more than I fear them. They know that I know the subject.

Sometimes the EC text is of no interest now, but that can come back later to bite you in the fanny. That is the reason I try to read every post. We got some bright folks posting and you need to read all.

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