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Has anybody actually had any success with dissolving large gallstones using herbs? And how much of anything does one need to take for it to be effective. The Chanca Piedra (for instance) suggests just one 500mg capsule per day.
I did do one gb/liver flush a few weeks' ago and it was fine and the discomfort was better for a little while. However, I keep being advised not to attempt any flushes with such a large stone. Surgery would seem to be my only option.... which is sad when I have put so much effort into trying to keep the gb.
I'd appreciate any help.
(Rustenburg, North West, South Africa)
02/17/2013
Hi Carole, I know that the liver flush removes g/stones, because I have done it numeruos times & it is quick & no fuss, just 2 days, Hulda Clarks method is simple & it works.
Carole: Is your GS a Calcium, Cholesterol, or mixed??? I have done several gb flushes over the yrs with many small and medium sized, but it was only about a yr ago I did a flush and passed a few small stones and one as large or larger than your 3cm. I was somewhat shocked at the size and that I had successfully passed it. It appeared to be mostly cholesterol but could have had some calcium, although I didn't closely examine. I don't do the passive method of simply laying down on the left side. I take a roll of toilet tissue (a few minutes fallowing the oil/lemon drink) place it directly over the gb, pull my thigh over the tissue, and squeeze quite hard (with help from hands n arms); wait a few minutes and repeat a few times. This active method literally "forces" the stone to pass.
Try this method in the early morning, and if in a rare occasion the stone gets stuck in the bile duct, you can make a quick dash to the emergency medical clinic for removal.
(Bury Village, West Sussex,, England)
02/18/2013
Blimey Timh - you're brave! However, this is just the sort of support I need! People who have actually passed large stones. I am told mine is calcified. I am sure if it was cholesterol - then with the protocol I have been on - it would have changed.
I have been using beetroot; dandelion coffee; lecithin granules; tamarind; milk thistle; lemon juice; peppermint oil; chanca piedra; gold coin grass; chamomile..... All can dissolve calcified gallstones!
I just wonder if I need to be on higher doses? My CP capsules says one 50mg a day. However, an earlier post from Bill suggests 100mg x 3 times a day! A big difference. I'll have a talk through options with the herbalist/acupuncturist tomorrow. However, it is this lady who is cautioning me against flushing with such a large stone!
I won't give up yet. Thanks for your input.
Carole
(Oh)
10/18/2015
Hi Carole,
I know your post is old, however what was your outcome? Did you have surgery? I've been doing everything you're doing since January 2015, I haven't had a cleanse yet to remove stones but taking all the same as you listed plus more to increase liver bile. I have a large stone over 2 cm plus smaller. I see a Alternative Health Dr as well. She wanted prepare my body before attempting a flush. I'm worried for stone to get stuck. Bile duct is normal no issues, gallbladder inflammation was .06 in January last week down to .02. Now I'm worried all the expenses to go natural vs surgery. I hate thought surgery but what point do people just do it? I cannot drink a lot of apple juice it gave me full body over load of yeast, so Malic Acid tablet plus eat pears and apples. So any other great cleanses without drinking Apple juice week before or day of would be appreciated. Thanks Everyone
(Australia)
10/23/2015
Hi Carole,
I'm in the same boat as you. Scanned proof of a 2.5 cm stone in my gall bladder. I have been searching for ways to remove it and have also been advise not to do a flush, as the stone is too big. I'm now basically vegan and taking liberal amounts of apple cider vinegar and apple juice. also been told fragrant herbs in cooking is good along with tea's such as peppermint and dandelion. My search about chanca piedra brought me here. I am very interested to hear your experience and others also.
(New York)
10/24/2015
Hi Jeanette. Gallstones
I will share a story with you..I was having really bad pain in my gallbladder so assuming they were stones.. I like you did not want to do a whole flush so instead I did the apple juice in the ACV and also lemons.. Then I drank two or three cups of the chanca piedra tea maybe every two days.. Well I have been eliminating stones; a lot of stones.. large ones that I couldn't believe and small ones.. I must have had over 100 stones;maybe more.. The pain now is down to a one from over a ten ... I believe the stone breaker tea (chanca piedra) really does break up the stones and the ACV and apple juice loosens up the stones.. I am shocked myself that this really works.. I got the tea from Amazon or Sunfoods sells it also..
(Uk)
06/22/2016
Could you please tell me which brand you bought?
(Sa)
01/08/2018
Chanca Piedra
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Hi. I have heard about chanca piedra being quite effective for gallstones. However, no one tells you what type of gallstone it will dissolve. Do they mean the calcified kind, or the cholesterol kind of gallstone? Thanks.
(New York)
10/28/2015
Hi Wyandatte. (Canada)
I had tons of gallstones.. I have no idea which kind they were but they were very painful.. I first did the apple cidar vinegar and apple juice to loosen them up and then drank a few cups of the chanca piedra tea most days.. I expelled some huge stones .. I couldn't believe how big they were.. I expelled lots of broken up stones..and small stones.. all kinds of stones and some other weird stuff lol...Anyway; its been three months and my pain as of today is either a one or not here at all.... I don't know if calcified stones pass through but at that point I didn't care. I was willing to take the chance and get these painful stones out...
(Pa)
04/28/2016
(Az)
05/12/2017
Kidney stones will be in your urine. Gallstones will be in your stool.
(Seaford De)
06/19/2020
Just an update. I have changed up things a bit over the past two years and ox bile has really helped. I believe it helps with sludge. I take a 5000 iu with fattier meals and a 1000 with less fatty meals. Taking without fat will give you diarrhea. I still take C and occasionally use chanca piedra as a cleanout. I was taking the AF supplement but this works better. If I feel pain I take more, less when I don't. I can eat regular meals again, dessert etc. But I try to eat healthy with good fats. Someone did a study that I can't find, showing highest percentages of food causing attacks, I believe they were eggs, pork and full fat dairy. Fried foods are bad as well. I know, eggs, pork, butter, cheese and fried foods are the worst for me, I rarely ever eat eggs now. I can eat butter and cheese now with the bile supplement. Hope that helps someone, wish I knew about ox bile 10 years ago.
Chanca Piedra
A friend of mine who is into natural remidies recomended a South American herb called Chanca Piedra which he said translates as "break stone. " I can't find any dosage information or instructions on the most effective way to use it. I have made tea with it but am considering putting it into capsules. If you have information regarding this herb and the most effective way to take it I would be interested. I am also interested if you know of any other substance that would dissolve these monster stones I have.
Sincerely, L.M.
(Toronto, On, Canada)
05/15/2011
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L. M. I have been using the Chanca Piedra from AOR for about 2 weeks now and about 90% of the symptoms are gone. I take one capsule 3 times a day on an empty stomach.
(Oakville, Canada)
07/13/2012
Chanca Piedra, is Phylanthus Niruri. It is the stonebreaker.
The annual herb Phyllanthus niruri is best known by the common names Stonebreaker(Eng. ), Chanca Piedra(Sp. ) and Quebra Pedra(Port. ), Seed-Under-Leaf(Eng. ) but has many other common names in assorted languages, including dukong anak, dukong-dukong anak, amin buah, rami buah, turi hutan, bhuiaonla, Meniran (Indonesia), (Malayalam) and / Keela Nelli (Tamil). The herb is known as Nela Nelli in Kannada and "Nela Usiri" in Telugu. It is a widespread tropical plant commonly found in coastal areas. It is a relative of the spurges, belonging to the leafflower genus of Family Phyllanthaceae.
I should say about this herb. Phylanthus Niruri, used to grow in abundance around my house in India. I used to pluck and eat it just like that during my childhood.
This is the top most potent herb for liver than Milk Thistle or any other herb. It is used in Unani, Ayurvedha, Siddha herbal medical system for more than 5000 years. If possible, you can contact any Indian herbal practitioner for accurate dosage.
Himalaya company also sells P. Niruri capsules. You can follow their dosage.
You can start with 2 capsules per day. If you want to be very safe then eat 2 tsp of chywanprash which contains Phylanthus Niruri (chanca piedra) and many other herb for your whole body.
One more info, Phylanthus Niruri is extremely potent and Heat(in ayurvedic and Siddha theory)Producing herb, so don't over use it. EC, pls don't mention this as a side effect because there will be no side effect by using this herb other than it is heat producing.
*Heat is the body's fire - Pitta (fire/water)
Even I am going to start eating this herb occassionaly for general health.
Hope this helps someone.
(Abilene, Tx)
11/23/2015
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It works. Softens stones to pass them .
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(Fargo, Nd)
05/19/2011
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The prep was easy, the mixes were pretty nasty tasting, but afterward I only felt minor "gurgling" on right flank.... Nothing painful or extraordinary. The next day I had a pretty serious case of diarrhea and released about 100 m&m sized green pellets. I couldn't believe it!! It's hard to believe that a natural, non-invasive and $12 solution to this problem exists! I'm going to try it again in a month, to rehydrate myself and to prevent a low in potassium! Thanks everyone!
(Delhi, New Delhi)
10/19/2011
My mother suffering from gallbladder stones- stone size is 3mm or 4mm 8-9 stones. She was 60 years old, weight is 29 kg, heart -patient, high b. P, aurthrities, heap-replacement surgery is already done in june 2011. In that time we prefer only naturalpathy. We see your site and started apple, ginger, clove, cinnamon juice only two spoons. It sufficent or this thing is remove gallbladder stones. Tell me the proper quantity or if it's effective or not.
(Florida)
02/27/2016
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I recently started Lecithin gel capsules with olive leaf before I go to bed. I take vit D3 and calcium in the am. Also, my weakness is occasional creme in my coffee and on the weekends a couple glasses of wine. Can some one explain why the wine is bad? When it was originally diagnosed, by a gastro he wanted to take it out becaue as he said that's what they do. The U/S showed the 1 stone and multiple calculi that were so small they could not be measured. Beyond surgery he would not assist me, so I'm in the dark. I took acupuncture for about 6 months and chinese herbs which caused me to PAINLESSLY pass the calculi. It had no effect on the larger stone. I lost my job and could not afford to continue. I will start the Chanca Piedra this week, but can someone advise me on navigating this alone? I don't want to hold onto the gallbladder and and damage other areas.
(Oakville, Canada)
02/09/2013
Chaca Piedra is the real medicine to break the stones. Or even take chanca piedra tea.
Try juice therapy variety of juices throughout the day: apple juice, tamarind juice, lemon juice, carrot juice, lemon juice
And Ted's Alkalizing formula.
Check the following link: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/gallstones4.html#JUICE
the juice therapy will soften the stone and wash it away. Have your regular diet, don't take Calcium tablet. Carrot juice is enough for nutrition.
Good Health
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(Calgary, Alberta, Canada)
09/19/2013
Hi Rachel from Valley Park - If you need the epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) right away, instead of ordering online, you can find them in just about any pharmacy (including those in large stores like Walmart or some grocery stores). Most people use the salts for bathing or soaking their tired feet, but it can be used for flushes as well. Do make sure it's pure magnesium sulfate without any additives (it should state that on the label). Some brands add fragrance (like lavender) or other ingredients (like menthol crystals).
Before you begin, you may want to see if your library has The Liver and Gallbladder Miracle Cleanse by Andreas Moritz. He goes into great detail about what to expect and there is a Frequently Asked Questions section in the back.
Here is what he says about the composition of epsom salts:
Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) can be found in mountain regions and is contained in sea salts. It is also manufactured synthetically by combining natural minerals.
Good luck! Bess
(Minnesota)
12/11/2022
Assuming the epsom salt has no additives like scents mixed in, or bath salts, I would personally be okay using it to make capsules from. I just used store bought. nothing fancy. be careful. I have had galstone issues a few years now, and theyre better. I usually only opt for epsom salt cleanses if im in real pain. because; well; it can be threacherous if not done correctly. Hulda clark for example; prepared her patients for a few weeks by having them drink herbal teas to prepare the kidneys and liver for the galbladder flush to come.
I personally drink BHUMIAMALAKI (phyllanthus amarus) 1/2 tsp at night before bed in a few ozs of hot water for a bitter tea. This is on recommendation from a certified ayurvedic practitioner I hired who studied in India. I had verified stones and polyps via ultrasound. After 1 year of dosing this medicine (and changing diet, and a few epsom salt cleanses), I shrank all my polyps be several millimeters and my pain is nill. I also passed many stones in my stool.
BHUMIAMALAKI can be AN ALLERGEN TO SOME> I became allergic after a year of use and had to switch to Chanca Piedra wildharvested herb to make stonebreaker tea daily.
Also on recommendation of my CAP, castor oil packs on the gal area (a tbsp on a paper towel, with a sandwhich bag taped over it to you skin using surgical tape)
If one insists on the epsom salt cleanse, this is how hulda clark recommends it:
https://drclarkstore.com/pages/liver-gallbladder-cleanse-instructions
If it were me, I would read the whole page, and follow the instructions very carefully, or I could cause the stones to get backed up in your bilial ducts, cause more pain, or other complications, and have to start over.
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I have read so much on here and everyone seems to have horrible pain. I haven't had bad pain. All I really have is a miserable icky feeling in my upper stomach. Like I ate a huge meal and it is just sitting there... Sometime feels rancid. It's truly awful. I dont read on here about anyone else experiencing this. So a part of me is wondering if my symptoms are something else, aside from the stones.
I asked the nurse on the phone the if the stones were big and she called me back after talking to the dr and said he didnt say. Gotta love that. So I have no idea.
I have terrible back pain regularly and don't sleep well on normal nights so the cleanse concerns me because I cant lay still or sleep. So how do I do that. Also what if the stones are big? will I be able to pass them?
So many questions.... Any advice?
(Canada)
08/16/2013
Try the following juice therapy in any fashion.
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/gallstones5.html#JUICE
Drink at least 2 litres of juice daily, combination of un pasteurized apple juice, lemon juice, tamarind juice, Apple cider vinegar with water. Drink 1 chanca piedra tea daily, to break the stone. Gall stone pain will symptom in pain starting from right chest to the back. Also, cramp and pain starting from right shoulder till the forearm. Take rest for the whole week as you will be continuously peeing when you are in juice therapy. This is a very safe therapy and you will not loose any minerals as you are replenished with minerals from apple juice, lemon juice, carrot juice. Good Health
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(San Fernando, La Union, Philippines)
02/07/2013
Hi Carole... I have used Chanca piedra extensively. It was part of my own candida cure to keep both calcium and sugar levels down in my blood. I have also used chanca piedra for other people and I know how good it is at dissolvong gallstones and kidney stones. It even cures gout. The best form is just an aqueous solution -- the alcoholic extract is not as good as the water extract. I live in the Philippines where Chanca piedra grows everywhere and is a weed and I use it alot as a diuretic cleanser for my body to periodically purge and cleanse the blood. CP is also strongly antiviral -- it can cure Hep B and they are currently researching CP for its beneficial effects against HIV AIDs and cancer. CP is a very powerful herb and yet there is no known overdose limit to this herb -- therefore its very safe.
I took strong doses of CP for a whole year non-stop for my candida problem and it did nothing but good and helped and contributed to my own eventul candida cure.
I made the CP decoction directly from picked herbs but the tea or capsule forms are also good ones to use.
(Tarlac City, Philippines)
08/04/2015
Hi! I've just read your comment about chanca piedra. I immediately checked outside and found a lot of them! I was recently advised by my doc to have my gallbladder removed and I'm suffering from non stop pain for 2 mos now. How do I make a CP tea? Thanks!
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(Oakville, Canada)
02/05/2013
Try the juice therapy for Gall Stone attack and Gall stone removal - https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/gallstones3.html#JUICE
It is safe and healthy. Don't repeat the same juice daily, you should alternate. You can drink apple juice in the morning, lemon juice afternoon after a meal, again evening apple juice.
Also, mix 1 tsp apple cider vinegar in the apple juice for additional benefit.
Good health.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
02/05/2013
One of the easiest and most effective methods for gallstone removal is just to take 1000 mgs of organic chanca piedra capsules(or just drink the tea form) three times a day at mealtimes. CP dissolves the stones by making the calcium in the stones more soluble. Chanca piedra will also get rid of kidney stones in the same manner and has a high reputation for clearing excess calcium problems -- like gallstones and kidney stones -- in the body.
Gallstones aren't really a gall bladder problem at all -- they are a liver problem which primarily occurs due to too much calcium(too much dairy) and too much fats and oils(especially vegetable oils) in the diet. So taking milk thistle, ALA and selenium will also help the liver to cope which will also help you to avoid gallstone problems in the future. Taking a teaspoon of granulated lecithin at mealtimes is also highly beneficial for the liver and for gallstone removal and prevention.
The fact that you can't gain weight could also indicate very poor digestion. Taking Betaine Hydrochloride, protease enzymes and alkalizing with sodium bicarbonate and water should help to improve this problem and help you gain weight as well.
* Take betaine hydrchloride tablets with every meal. This will help to supply the necessary chlorides and will address the root cause of your stomach acid problem.
* Take pancreatic enzymes containing bromelain and papain at every meal. This will aid proper protein digestion in both the stomach and duodenum.
* Take Sea Salt(not refined table salt) -- 1/4 to 1/2 tspn with water once per day -- outside mealtimes. This helps to supply chlorides for proper stomach acid production. It also helps to supply minerls to the body.
* Take Magnesium Chloride -- 1/4 teaspoon once per day -- taken at mealtme. This also helps to supply chlorides for proper stomach digestion. It also helps the liver and aids in killing off pathogens in the intestines. Magnesium will also help dissolve your gallstones.
* Alkalize the intestines using Ted's Sodium Bicarbonate and water remedy. Take this remedy 1/2 hr to 1 hour after every meal. This remedy helps to promote proper alkaline digestion in the upper intestine and also addresses a possible lack of bicarbonates in the pancreatic juices.
*(Optional) Kelp Extract -- regular advised dosage -- Iodine is also necessary to help regenerate stomach acid.
Regarding your intestinal crawling sensations, it's also fairly well known that parasites can hide in amongst gallstones and your crawling sensation in the intestines might be related to this. So best to get yourself checked for parasites as well. The Hulda Clark remedy is a good one to get rid of parasites.
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(London)
09/30/2015
What is the colon cleanse to be safe for gall bladder flush that you mention?
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In addition, we collect the gravel root each August and feed it to our dairy goats. We lost a buck about 15 years ago to kidney stones. Haven't had a case since. Also, a friend cleared up his kidney stones and has had no more. He was seeing a doctor every few months and was told he would have to for the rest of his life. Now he drinks a glass or two a week of the tea and has had no trouble for 2-3 years plus his general health has improved.
All parts of the plant are useful, but we don't mess with the roots because they are a pain to clean. We collect the plants from along creeks and country roadsides when their flowers are their brightest pink. (They are truly pink, NOT purplish. ) The following website has a good picture of the plant although the color is somewhat washed out. The flower head can be very conical. I suspect it is forming seeds: www.altnature.com/gallery/joe_pye_weed.htm.
(Los Angeles, California)
12/31/2017
Thank you so much, I am going to look into this. I didn't even know I had stones until it happened that I ate lots of chayote leaves (in juices, smoothies and soups as my plant grows fast and they taste nice) and had one fall out. I started looking at my stools and sure enough passed more. Waxy, but pretty hard consistency. No pain at all. I think I also ate lots of apples and I like to drink water with whole quartered lemon (skin, and all)in it. I eat the lemon too. That week it happened, that I ate more of all of them. Anyway, stones were quite large - an inch of so long. I am looking now into herbal program, that I can do to flush them all. Chanca Piedra is one, and I am going to add Gravel root.
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