Natural Remedies for Lyme Disease

I have been battling inflammation in my joints, especially my spine and ribs, since the birth of my son 9 years ago. I have tried many things, with moderate improvement, but once I started taking Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking soda I noticed an immediate and noticeable improvement. I'm still taking my other stuff ... curcumin (good for lyme), minerals, especially Magnesium and boron (good for arthritis). I take gelatin (building block of joints and tendons) in my green tea (antioxidant) so there could be a cumulative affect.

However, I noticed the biggest improvement after adding ACV and BS. Oh, I recently ordered some liposomal vit C, after seeing the segment on 60 minutes about the guy from New Zealand who they wanted to unplug life support and vit C brought him back from the dead. I haven't gotten it yet, but want it to combat that new respiratory virus that is so bad. Let me see if I can find the link. here it is.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrhkoFcOMII

Hi Anne. I would check into MSM ( Methylsulphonylmethane ) Powder. This sometimes helps with joint pain. You may want to read up on here ( EC ) about the use of Borax ( 20 mule team ) in laundry aisle, as well.

For treatment, I think all the testing for this or that microbe is a waste of time. In the end, you just know there is some infection but never be entirely sure what infections. Testing won't catch all the infections either. They have been coming out with a new and improved Lyme testing for decades. The best approach is treat ones body as a black box and apply the antidote then see if there is improvement. Maybe one test that could yield something is testing ones excrement for parasites etc.

I would focus on the real reason for that bruising symptom. if you have dark skin, it is possible a rash could look like a bruise. Maybe you got vitamin K or C deficiency. This requires detective work. Do you have any neurological symptoms like brain fog etc. There are a subset of people who exhibit flu like symptoms in CFS. There really isn't enough information in your post for me to make any determination.

Inflammation in your joints says you do have an infection of some type attacking your joints. You haven't really clarified where that inflammation of the joints is. Which joints. There are remedies to this.

If you have any type of arthritis, there is a real possibility you have mycoplasm infection. Borax protocol or antibiotic protocol using minocin (not generic minocycline) may address this especially if it is rheumatoid arthritis but they can address many other chronic diseases.

The problem with neutralizing mycoplasm infections (e.g. rheumatoid arthritis) is that the remedies above may not work completely if there are other infections in ones body that need addressing. For instance, if systemic fungal infections is present, that too may have to be addressed.

To help hold the line against damage in the joints, I do know Biocell (HA/Collagen) formula has a good chance of working. There may be other brands but I am not familiar with them. The key is how well it absorbs.

Rib inflammation would likely be what they call costochondritis. 70% of people with fms have that. It is usually most painful when you wake up in the morning. Biocell will improve it along with joints and spinal problems. You have a major infection in your body. I would look into the borax and minocin (not generic minocycline).

I think anyone with a chronic disease should go to arthritistrust.org and read the section on how to heal rheumatoid arthritis. It illustrates why one can't just focus in on one infection.

The link below has a lot of good info on on eliminating lyme spirochetes and other co-infections with various natural treatments.

http://www.lyme-symptoms.com/LymeDiseaseInfo/Examples.of.eradicators.html

I'm currently trying the specific cinnamon leaf oil "Cinnamomum verum leaf from Sri Lanka" , but too soon to tell, only a little over a month in.

Thank you for the info here. I'm trying to research all I can. I do have olive colored skin (bruise on my back). After waking up in the middle of the night with flu-like symptons, the next morning I couldn't pick up a cup of coffee with my right wrist (pain). I also had the following symptons, stiff neck, sore jaw {right side}, ringing in my ear, both knees were swollen, a zapping pain in my left ankle that would shoot up my leg, and a burning sensation in my right elbow.

I couldn't stand for the pain in my feet. (just listing some of my symptons) This went on for months. Tests for rheumatoid arthritis were negative. Neurological tests showed an irritation in my right elbow. I can't even tell you how many tests I had all showing everything to be normal.

The only thing that's ever shown in blood test is the contact with lyme diseaseI started seeing a chiropractor and he has helped me a great deal. I have also seen three naturopathic doctors. Everything the last ND gave me made me worse. He was treating me for thyroid disease. And now I'm on my own. I no longer have the pain I initially had, although it occasionally comes back. Medical doctors tell me I have rheumatoid arthritis. (Even though tests showed negative) Although they can't explain my other symptons. I still have the ringing in my ear and inflammation in my knees. Bee pollen has really helped with the inflammation. But it doesn't get rid of it.

You have some infections of some kind. You may never know definitively what that infection is. You didn't mention cognitive symptoms so I don't think it is lyme disease. The symptoms wouldn't seem like a thyroid thing either.

The inflammation in knees could be rheumatoid arthritis. Your feet could hurt too. Mycoplasma infection has been associated with that. Try the borax protocol. Minocin (not generic minocycline) would be the next thing.

The shocks in legs and burning would be a type of peripheral neuropathy. Look into benfotiamine, sublingual b12, stabilized R alpha lipoic acid.

The way you go about improving your health is by hypothesizing something and trying an antidote.

Inflammation from all causes involves certain cytokines (chemical messengers). Some simple herbal blockades of inflammation I have found very useful are Nettle, Frankincense, Chinese Skullcap, Safflower petals, ginger root, Turmeric with a little black pepper, celery seed extract (homemade with Vodka) and borage oil with either wild fish oil or grass-fed beef fat (can be kept frozen). Hope this helps, Love in Jesus!

Research Banderol. Heard that this is good for Lyme disease. I believe it is used alone and then use Cats Claw. Maybe use both together not sure.

I've been following Dr D Klinghardt's info re Lyme disease which he prefers to call insect-borne illness. His protocol is quite complex, maybe even more than the herbalist Buhner; however, recently read on his site that taking Cistus Incanus tea with leaf Stevia can relieve symptoms. Start with 2 cups a day increasing to 6.

I drink the Custis Tea. It is a good Biofilm buster, add Stevia for Lyme. I'm positive but have not done that. My issue is Systemic Candida.

Hello Yochana,

Have you ever tried candida/parasite remedies? My son was very ill. By 8th grade he missed 14 weeks of school. He had a lot of what you have and more. So much pain in his neck and shoulders and all over really, but started in his neck and shoulders. Diagnosed with severe sinus disease, asthma, it was suggested he had chronic fatigue syndrome then diagnosed with fibromyalgia. He had extreme headaches, severe insomnia, dizziness, extreme fatigue always getting canker sores in his mouth, swollen bottom lip, brain fog and the list goes on. We had every blood test that exists and no one could say what was wrong with him. The doctor's would just diagnose each symptom as a separate issue.

A client of mine told me about someone his friend went to that he thought was amazing. He was an acupuncturist that practiced Chinese medicine. After just a few minutes with him, he diagnosed him with systemic candida. He put him on a strict diet along with some herbs. After all we went through we were a little doubtful about what would happen. But that was really it. It took about 3 weeks for him to start feeling better. But we stuck to the diet to the letter. And my son was desperate enough to stick to it too. It took about 5 mos. for him to feel healed, but he is now a sophomore has only missed a couple of days of school, takes a strength and conditioning class, can blow 450 in a spirimitor (if you know what that is in the asthma world) when he used to barely make 325 and each additional blow would drop from there, he sleeps like a teen should(like a rock and for 9-10 hours on weekends), he is full of energy and is a different person. It was a nightmare that is finally over for us. If this sounds like anything you are going through, I would be happy to tell you more.

Wishing you the best, Grateful Mother

Hello Yochana,

About the Lyme possibility ... I've had a few experiences with Lyme; two very successful and one questionable.

Colloidal Silver is worth of trying for two weeks. If the CS is "on" you'll fee the difference in seven days or less. The energy will come back fast...you'll feel like yourself again...BUT be careful, you are on thin ice.

CS irrigations ... sinus and ears. Three tablespoons am and pm on empty stomach orally.

Post back if you need details.

Dave

Hi, I have been diagnosed by a chiropractor as having lymes disease and I am taking a variety of supplements to help me.

Finally I am doing something positive to heal. For so long I could not take any consistent steps to make myself better. I just felt too overwhelmed and stuck.

So to anyone out there feeling the same way please dont give up. Even if you are afraid to get better keep seeking help. take small steps. Ask god/goddess Jesus allah buddah, hashem shekhina, the great spirit etc, love the loving spirits spirits of your ancestors devas angels or spirit of nature to help you. If you are an atheist call on the web of life or on love to help you.

We need you.

I was interested in the collodial silver and wanted to know what is a good brand and if it is safe to take. Dave said I was on thin ice and I was not sure what he meant.

Someone else mentioned candida, and according to the person I am working with I do not presently have candida.

I don't eat sugar at all and have not done so for over 2 years, thank god and overeaters anonymous that has mainly taken away the terrible cravings.

I still have gastric distress

I used to eat 20 candybars/junk pastry a day!!!!!

I don't know if I should cut down on or stop eating grains. I eat rice and buckwheat and quinoa and fruit. I also eat a lot of chicken and turkey.

I am allergic to soy and seitan so I cannot do tofu tempe etc. beans make me extremely ill tho I can tolerate hummous, maybe cause it is mashed up.

I eat a lot to maintain my weight which often runs low.

I get overwhelmed by the sheer volume of info on here so if you can make it simple that would be great.

Does anyone in Boston area have a rife machine?

I am still having great trouble sleeping and the pain in my neck area is very bad. I dont want to take drugs for the pain if you have other ideas I am very open. Thanks

If anyone can consolidate what works that would help as I get easily overwhemed. Thanks, Yochana

My teenage daughter has Lyme and it's reared it's ugly head again. She suffers from fatigue, brain fog and swollen joints. Should I try CS for her and how much/how often? Thank you so much

What did your son do/take to start feeling better. My son has the same symptoms and misses a lot of school.

When you have brain fog you are infected with Borrelia, Bartonella or both. Start using fresh raw garlic 3 cloves a day and 10 drops of organic oregano oil, dilluted in glass of water 3 times a day. you can add Amoxicillin 2g/day for 7 days or Ciprofloxacin 3x250mg for 5 days. Bartonella is very sensitive to Cipro and Borrelia to Amoxil. The stongest abx for Borrelia is Ceftriaxone IV and oral Gemifloxacin. it is very important to have MBC of abx high enough to be able to kill 100% of the bacterial load, otherwise you cannot be cured 100%.

Hi, I wonder if I have lymes.. Around my shoulder and neck, it hurts like crazy, also on the sides of my stomach, it feels gravelly under the skin and also almost hard and crunchy, the pain feel kind of electric, I am also very exhusted, cant sleep well, digest problems and neurological problems-neuropathy in legs and feet, not from diabetes, tremor in my hands and I feel off balance, its not visible, but feel like I could almost fall. I also have mood swings.

Does that sound like lymes or something else? Thanks.

Yes! That is Lyme disease. Please don't waste any time going to traditional doctors. They have no clue.

This is what I would do if I were you... Start taking 10grams of food-based vitamin C (NOT asorbic acid) while you wait for a "official" diagnosis or blood test. The best brand is made from 100% organic oranges and is easily digestable. I can't name brands here but look it up online it is easily absorbed and you can take a large amount without issues. This is not the case with standar vitamin C. Also increase your sea salt or himalayian salt intake. Salt kills bacteria and other pathogens. Eat lots of organic US grown garlic and onions. Also avoid all sugar (even those in fruit). This will help your body fight the infection while you find a doctor to work with. Do not wait, do this immediately!

If you need confirmation of Lyme (now that I look back I wouldn't need it... I would just go based on symptoms. Waiting for test results takes away time/money on getting treated) you need to find a good LLND (Lyme-literate Naturpathic Doctor) or a good LLMD (Lyme-literate MD). Again I would do things to build your immune system while you look for these folks. There are very few people educated in Lyme and it takes some knowledge to beat this disease. It takes a lot of time just finding a doc to work with... So KEEP building your immune system. Also google "Beat Lyme" online and see some good success stories!!!

Good Lyme advice. As for Immunity Building, if I might add, the Thymus Gland is also very important. The Thymus gland is like the brain of the immune system as it is involved in both production and regulation of immune or white blood cells. Thymus function decreases significantly w/ age so any method to augment it is definitely recommended especially those suffering chronic infections.

To boost the Thymus do these little exercises on a daily basis and significantly boost your immune power. First, use some type negative pole magnet (the side that sticks to metal) over the Thymus, which is directly between the lower neck and heart area; a common refrigerator magnet will do just fine; do this for approx 15 minutes. Second, do the "Thymus Tapp" by making a fist and gently bump the T area a few times and wait a little then bump again several times daily. Thirdly, supplement Raw Thymus Glandular as recommended on label.

Gail, it also sounds like menopause symptoms.... Are you menopausal maybe?

Hello,
I would like to let you know of a treatment I went on for a systemic yeast infection. I used essential oils in a double 00 capsule: 10 drops of thieves oil, 4 drops of frankincense, 4 drops of oregano oil. WOW what a difference a few days makes. I have been dealing with this for 6 yes and I think I am finally turning the corner. I had a major detox reaction that kicked my "---" for three days, but I am getting stronger every day. I am also mixing these oils with jojoba carrier oil and I am rubbing my skin down daily. Also using thieves and rubbing directly on spine 2 times per day. I feel like I am among the living once again!!!! Obviously, diet is critical, NO SUGAR!! Oh yea Probiotics, Probiotics!! I think the safety profile for the oils is safer than Nystatin, anyway perhaps this is another option for you. I hope this helps anyone like it did me!! As with any treatment check for allergies and make sure you are strong enough to handle the detox, if you are too weak it can seriously harm you, so adjust your internal dose accordingly (I did every 4 hrs, but again this really knocked me down with the detox reaction).

Interesting information on Nystatin. I was googling Nystatin and ran across this post. I stopped antibiotic treatment recently because they were killing me and have started herbal treatments along with antifungals. My LLMD suggested we kill the fungal before we attact the Lyme. I started nystating today after 7 days of just herbal and I feel awful. The nystatin is killing something and I feel achy, twitching, headache and lethargic. Is it killing the lyme or is this just a die off of fungal giving me this reaction? I was on nystatin with all the antibiotics and feeling terrible. After reading this post I wonder if it was the nystatin killing Lyme all along.

Please stop spreading disinformation. Nystatin is an antifungal compound from bacteria, not a "yeast". I do not know where you get your information, but if you don't even know the basics (which you could find out in 2 seconds by reading Wikipedia), you are definitely not qualified to give out medical advice and I fear the disservice you are doing to others. I am frightened by this growing trend of medically illiterate people spreading myths and lies. You're as bad as the snake oil salesmen who are profiting from inventing things like "systemic yeast."

If someone has been taking Nystatin for over 30 years then at best it is only ever a temporary relief. It doesn't kill the microbes, it just knocks them back a bit.

Changing the diet has the biggest effect. Within 18 months on a gluten-free, low carb all natural unprocessed diet I was no longer a walking fungus-factory. Having enough good sea salt and vitamin C in the diet makes a big difference too. Changing the environment within the body has the greatest effect on the outcome.

Just diagnosed with Lyme 6 weeks ago. Trying to find ways to get better. Found a lot of good info here. What is oil pulling? Thanks.

To Matthew from Milbrook, NY...

What an awesome person you are! Thank you for sharing your advice of *forgiveness* for healing... how true it is. Thanks also for the info about lithium orotate.

Here's wishing you continued and abundant health! :-)

~ to mathew from millbrook - thanks so much for being you - it is precisely because of folks like you with all your so much wisdom that this site works so well - colene from golden - thankyou and god bless ~

I totally agree with the psychological aspect of it. Once you forgive (and get the right diagnosis) that's when healing happens.

There's a wonderful doctor who wrote about pain many years ago... He said something like healing happens in the sacred space of optimisim, persistence, and calmness... Not negativity, complacency, anger, and fear!

I just got diagnosed after 1.5 years of crazy problems from anxiety to jaw pain... Muscle problems to joint stiffness. One of the first things I worked on during this journey was to fix my way of thinking and not be an "injustice-collector" someone who always sees the "injustice" in things. Yes things are not that great... But what's the use of screaming, yelling, being angry about the "injustice. " I had to learn this otherwise I couldn't make it. The physical conditions were out of control and I needed to have a good spirit to make it through. I just got diagnosed with this. It's definitely chronic and am putting a plan to get better. I'm going to try Vitamin C IVs, Ozone, Infra-red Saunas, Priobiotic Enemas, Parasite Detox, etc. I'm going to use the following herbs...

Cat's Claw, MSM, high dosage oral Vit C, Vit D, Vit A, Vit E, Selenium, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Activated Charcoal, etc.

For 1.5 years I had NO IDEA what was going on with my body. I literally thought I was going crazy. I'm relived to have a diagnosis because now I can tackle it and fight the real issue. I took many supplements/herbs throughout this time and controlled inflammation but didn't have enough immune boosting supplements. That's what has made the difference.

Also knowing when to use things like Vit C, Activated Charcoal, Cilantro, etc. to remove the toxins from the die off.

My 1 month antibiotic treatment is almost done and I think I'm going to use only natural ways to build my immune system, detox, and kill this thing off.

Thanks for reading. Best, JasonMChicago

Hi, Can you explain how to do oil pulling and would it work if you are very sensitive to fats? Also how much sea salt do you take. Thanks.

Oil Pulling is a very powerful treatment. I have found the very best oil for oil pulling is coconut oil. Swish it around your mouth, pull it between your teeth. It is right to start with a few minutes a day and then increase the time you pull. Make sure that you spit out the oil once your have finished pulling as it contains bacteria, viruses and bugs. God Bless all of you who are suffering.

Hi, how does one do oil pulling? can you give very specific instructions?

I am having very severe pain in my neck and shoulders, esp right side. The pain is constant and feel almost electric. I have muscle pain as well, but tis not just muscle pain. Under my skin it feels all broken up, gravelly. I have similar pain elsewhere and wherever it is most broken up is where it hurts most.

I am very exhuasted, sleep poorly and have bad digestion-smelly poop, reflux, burping cramping bloating, my balance is off, I have a tremor in my hand and neropathy in mylegs esp my left leg and foot- it often swells, I do not have diabetes.

any ideas about what it might be? does it sound like lymes?

Help!!!

Lil, look into live kefir grains... I think it will really help you!!

YOU MAY HAVE A THYROID PROBLEM.

the skins of lemons, lines & oranges have an essential oil that is toxic to heaps of micorganisms & parasites and largely non toxic to mammals. the citric acid stimulates the citric acid cycle to detox. sounds like a great combination. it is also alkalizing as the acids when metabolized have a net result in increased alkalininty.

raw & organic are the two considerations, chemicals from herbacides, pesticides, etc that might be on the skin could be a problem - so use organic only.

I am sticking to a Raw Foods diet for lyme disease. Most parasites cannot live in an alkaline body. Raw food creates this alkalinity. No processed foods. No white flour or sugar. I have read others who have done watermelon fasts similar to the oranges and lemons. I believe there is something to this.

Hi! Thanks Don for sharing. Is there anyone else who tried this?

Hi Don, Approx. How many lemons and oranges did you eat each day?

You've got to be kidding me! You say that you are cured eating 8 days oranges when thousands of people suffer out there, trying everything, eating everything. R U sure you had Lyme anyway?

I essentially did the same thing only with lemons. But first, over 3 days, I did the vitamin C, salt and water cure for Lyme. I was roughly 150 pounds so I injested throughout the day, 8 grams (that's right, grams. ) of vitamin C, 8 grams of salt, and 8-10 glasses of water. Over the course of 3 days I 'diarehead' it out. My symptoms fell away like butter. I essemtially stick to a gluten free, whole foods diet, with very limited grains and potatoes, always careful to keep my body as alkaline as possible, eating apples or slices of apples throughout the day. A year later, I did the lemon cure with apples and mastic gum for my decades old stomach condition. My stomach has never been better. I essentially stick to a blood type diet (O positive in my case) which is essentially paleo. Although I prefer to think of it as more neo-lithic. Fruits, veggies, meat and fish with limited grains. In fact, for my grains, I am still eating the odd Kamut bread but am hoping to go more raw food and sprouted grains. I try to limit my eggs to once or twice a week and goat's milk 2-3 times max per week, with goats yogurt for smoothies. But whole foods and keeping alkaline and eating an anti-inflamatory diet is the key for me. Since I am not completly raw foods I enjoy curry and the wonders of turmeric, etc. My 'indian dosha' is pitta-vatta. The links between different healing systems are like connecting the dots. Neverthless, it was the vitamin C, Salt and water cure over 3-4 days that saved me from my Lyme disease which had reached the point of encaphlitis. Now, I just have a very lingering tinnitus, which generally regular apple consumption and the occassional lemon peel help from time to time. Best of luck.

Paul; I want to thank you for your confirmation. Since I read the original post, nearly word-for-word, on another site, and under a different name, I was hesitant to credit it, but since your experience paralleled this, I am excited to try. Thank you!

Hi, if I do the salt and vit c can I eat while doing it or is it a fast. My body is weak and I dont think fasting is the best idea. Does it help to eat the skins of org lemons, oranges and limes if I am eating reg food, tho no junk sugar etc. Also, is collodial silver safe? NOW I have bad bronchitis and layrngitis any ideas? Thanks, Serach

Hi, about the lemons or lemons and oranges. Does one have to fast? And if I do the vit c and salt, do I need to fast or can I eat and just take 8 grams of vit c and sea salt, unrefined. My neck hurt a lot, is jerking and feels gravelly and like there are shards of glass in there and it feels crusty.

Does anyone live in the Boston area and have a colloidal silver generator I could use, as I ca'nt afford one right now and does anyone know if there are any dentists that know how to remove amalgams that take mass health? Thanks, Yekara

That's so interesting that you found orange and lemon diet worked. About 10 years ago, I came across some information that the peel of calamansi oranges was a cure. I just tried to google search it and can't find it anywhere on the internet except for your post here. I believe it must work. Also, I did find that orange is used as a repellant for ticks, so the ticks must not like orange/lemon for a reason.

Healing Lyme by Stephen Harrod Buhner.

Please find a Lyme literate doctor and go to see them right away to be put on antibiotics. When you have just contracted Lyme disease it is very easy to eradicate with antibiotics but if you leave it too long and mess around with natural treatments you could be dealing with a chronic debilitating disease - I know! I'm treating it naturally now because I have no choice, I did long-term antibiotics after 2 years of having Lyme but I have neuro-borrealisis and it is almost impossible to get rid of and now turned to natural treatments and I've had it for more than 5 years now. Please go to an LLMD and go on a short course of antibiotics and get well. Trust me - I'm normally against antibioitics but don't mess around with this.

How much oregano oil do you take? And do you mix it with something?

Do you have Collembola too? If so, what do you do?

Are both Pantothenic Acid and Pantethine the same thing? Will pantethine work just as well without pantothenic acid? Im about to order some stuff to Canada from the US because it is cheaper. However, most of the b5 supplements are filled with binders and fillers I wish not to consume.

Don't have lyme disease that I know of, but if you can't tolerate dairy, you could try water kefir maybe for the probiotic benefit.

Lyme Disease Remedies: Do not use Citric Acid. I have no proof at hand, but have read that it can cause osteoarthritis. Arthritis pain disappears in many people when they eliminate Citrus. I've used the salt and Citric Acid and am now dealing with arthritis since doing so.

I did a modified version of this diet to help cure my lyme disease. 5 doctors misdiagnosed my condition and I suffered for 6 months. My medical student friend suggested I take a course of doxicycline. It took a month of daily treatment, but I was left with more energy and could now get out of bed in the morning. However It did not eliminate the flu-like symptoms I had everyday. I found the salt and Vitamin C cure for LD on the web, but didn't want to ingest all that salt. So I took 1000mg vitamin C with full VitB spectrum, 2 oz of dried wheatgrass powder, 350mg of milk thistle, and ate high salt foods instead of ingesting the salt and vitC together. It took almost two years to fully rid myself of LD, but if I knew of my approach before the illness I think I could have limited it to six months. Hope this helps. And people, keep your head up. Depression feeds lyme disease. You can get better!

How many times a day did you take the Vit.C/B/wheatgrass/milk thistle? Is it a special brand of Vit.C that has the Vit.B spectrum or is it a separate capsule?

Good one. I used the salt c protocol but it was hard to stick with. I also took antibiotics, I did not erradicate it though but got somewhat improved. I had eaten pumpkin seeds and had an herxinheimer reaction very constipated from the die off, as I found out can cause of crohn's and GI problems.

I believe spirochets are to blame for this, I'm on a laxative to eliminate the toxic die off which causes major brain fog and can cause breathing difficulty as it did last night, I also coconut oil and echiacea and golden seal but I'm continuing to get more better though it is not shown much in my blood now.

Yesterday, I read a post from a gentleman in Canada, about curing his long term Lyme with Salt and Vitamin C. He mentioned the book that helped him too. I cannot find it again. Can you help? Thank you. This site is so valuable to me.