Natural Remedies for Lyme Disease

Regarding the previous post about the 1 gram of salt to 1 gram of Vitamin c, DO NOT use regular salt. Only natural unprocessed salt such as Real Salt or Himalayan salt can be used. Also, make sure you go slow, starting with 1 gram at a time and working your way up. Check out the lymephotos website for more information or the yahoo group dedicated to this protocol: lymestrategies

Many people, including myself, have found relief from lyme by using MMS. I use it in conjunction with the salt/c protocol. You typically start with 1 drop of MMS mixed with vinegar, citric acid or lemon/lime juice. Let sit for 3 minutes and drink with water or any juice with no vit. c. You can go to www.miraclemineral.org/ for a detailed explanation and instructions.

I started the sea salt and c 5 days ago. I have pain in all my bones(these are all new symptoms)..so not sure if this is a herx reaction or problems with me doing this cleanse...I also only had diarrhea 1x and it was really quick..My hair also feels really greasy...Should I give this more time?? or am i so depleted in salt that my body is utilizing it instead of expelling it. I eat very healthy and alot of organic...I don't exercise that much because of my fatigue levels...I also have had weird dreams since I started this protocol..Any info would be appreciated, Thanks

hi, Is the salt c safe to take? I just took 1 tsp vit c, and 1tsp pink salt and the pain in my neck and back got worse. I have lymes and am treating it with herbs. I don't want to stop the herbs as the virus is going down steadily, but am utterly exhausted and in great pain.

Under the skin of my neck shoulders it's all gravelly and stringy/ropey. It feels kind of lumpy, like its not smoothe under the skin. The skin looks ok, but it feels bad. I got some acupunture yesterday and guasha- and a reg massage the day before, however it feels worse not better, more irrititated lumpy etc.

I also have a bad malevolent kind of feeling. Any ideas?

Thanks serach

Hi,

Can you eat and what food? How long do u do it for? Thanks

Matt,

I hope that this message reaches you somehow...because I would really like to talk to you about this. I am considering trying the Salt/Vitamin C protocol so I wanted to talk to you about your experience. I have had Lyme for 2 years and I need to get better. Please get back with me.

Dan

Dear Daniel,

What is it you would like to know? From my experience, sea salt cleared up the symptoms very quickly. I felt very relieved in just a few hours, and I felt back to normal after a few days. Please, however, don't take any medical advice from me, I'm only a farmer. That's just how my experience went. I pray you get better soon. I know how debilitating Lyme's Disease can be.

-Best wishes, Matt

I notice all my symptoms of lyme worsen when I increase my salt and c... Am I getting worse or herxing?

Hello I also felt immediately worse after my first dose of salt/C. I had to stop after a few days because the Herx got so intense. Interestingly, after the Herx cleared I felt much better, better than before I tried the salt/C. Each time I did it, the same thing happened, and I felt better each time the Herx cleared. This was the therapy that finally got me out of the Lyme nightmare. I started doing this after two and a half years of misery and trying everthing under the sun, including lots of antibiotics. I think it is a given that when you are killing off the bacteria, you are releasing loads of neurotoxins from the die-off all at once. The trick is to chelate the toxins as you kill them off. I used cilantro with chlorella, which helped tremendously. Also activated charcoal and zeolite. Keep the faith. Do it in small doses in short bursts. Good luck.

Susan,

Are you continuing to improve on this sea salt treatment? I'm 13.5 years sick with Lyme, 1.5 years post diagnosis. I've tried a couple rounds of antibiotics and only got much worse. This sea salt seems to good to be true. Can you provide me with more information?

PS Looks like we are neighbors.

20 yrs undiagnosed, can you believe it? Women with extreme pain & unexplained symptoms need antidepressants.

Hi, has anyone ever tried this sea salt remedy for lyme disease? It definitely sounds too good to be true, but of course, I'm always open to anything that will heal this horrible lyme illness. Wouldn't this remedy be hard on the kidneys? I have medullary sponge kidneys (I chronically form kidney stones & follow a low sodium/low oxalate diet), so I'm concerned about consuming so much salt.

What is the difference between "raw" unrefined sea salt, & regular or Kosher sea salt you buy at most grocery stores?

Please advise if anyone has any links or articles where I can read more about this remedy.

Thanks,

Teresa

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Jeff... Sorry I did not immediately respond to you. I have been feeling so much better and am getting back to a very normal, busy and wonderfully pain free life.

Yes, Salt/C was THE thing that turned the tide, and I continued to improve each time I used it, which was probably for about a year and a half. I was religiously consistent with it for about a year, but felt the results immediately. In my research, I read that the bacteria NEVER develop a tolerance to it, and that the salt can break through the biofilm and cysts. I would say from experience with both salt and antibiotics that it is true. But the beauty of the Salt/C protocol is you have total control as to the doses and length of treatment pulses, which can vary depending on what the Lyme is doing and how much Herx you are willing to tolerate. Ramp it up slowly. My Lyme would get worse in the Spring and Fall. Sometimes I would push the protocol to the max at those times, sometimes not. With antibiotics, I generally had to suffer through the entire four to six week dose to get any results.

I also had great luck with Lugol's iodine, which I would use in between or with the Salt/C protocol near the end of that year and a half. Check out a website called the Iodine Project. My dentist told me about it. (I went to this guy who is in Skowhegan ME for safe mercury removal - also check out a website called Smoking Teeth. ) I got my hands on a reprinted book from the thirties or forties about Iodine written by a doctor. He had compelling thoughts, if you really understand Lyme and read between the lines, that iodine prevents mucopolysaccharide formation, which is the biofilm, basically. And of course, it kills everything - fungus, protozoan, bacteria etc. I only use the salt once in a while now, just to be sure, and I keep iodine as a regular pulsed supplement.

Please keep me posted if you try the salt/C and if you have luck with it. I used the Himalayan Salt but Portsmouth Health Food Store has 'Real Salt' in bulk for really short money. It is also unprocessed.

Good Luck in your quest for answers.

To Susan in Portsmouth, NH, I was diagnosed a month ago with Lyme Disease and have been doing the Salt/Vitamin C for about 2 weeks. I have also been doing the iodine protocol for a year and a half using Iodoral. Do you think Iodoral would work as well as Lugol's? I find it easier and more convenient to take, but would switch to Lugol's if it would work better. Thanks for your uplifting post. Some days this Lyme can really get me down.

To Lisa from Maple Grove MN Regarding your question about Iodoral vs Lugol's - I know that Lugol's has a mix of both elemental iodine (5%) and potassium iodide (10 %) that (I would assume) is a good mix for the human body. I checked the website for Iodoral and noticed that it has a similar mix. Evidently the thyroid prefers the iodide and other body sites, like the breasts and ovaries, prefer the iodine. Go to 'The Iodine Project' on your computer and there is a wealth of very good information based on the work of Dr. Abraham.

I feel for you being in the throes of Lyme. But you WILL conquer it with a few simple but proven therapies. The life cycle of the organism is so long that it can take a while to get back to normal if it's been in your body for a while. I read somewhere (I think it was Bryan Rosner's book 'The Top Ten Treatments for Lyme') that if you take an antibiotic for, say, strep throat for ten days, you have hit the life cycle of that bacteria almost 500 times and that with Lyme, it would take something like 5 years to hit the life cycle that many times.

I also rotated the salt with TAO free Cat's Claw called Samento). In the early years, I had tried the regular Cat's Claw at the health food store with little success. I decided to spring for the $30 dollars once with a company called Nutramedix. Wow. What a die off reaction!! I stuck with Salt because it is so inexpensive and Lyme almost bankrupt me. But I wish I had learned about what really worked early on. Anyway - Samento could be one more thing to keep in mind if you want to rotate your treatments.

You say you were diagnosed a month ago. How long do you think you have had it? I was hit pretty hard. And the intense pain and exhaustion just seemed to go on and on and on. I should be embarassed to admit this publicly, but there was a point where I was seriously suicidal. I thought I would never get rid of it and it would just torture me for the rest of my life. Some, if not most, websites I read were basically saying you will never get rid of it. I totally disagree. I intend to be vigilant for many years to come, if not the rest of my life. But I think you need to understand what you are dealing with and be tenacious and as optimistic as possible. Patience is key. Every Herx you endure means you are killing off the little b####s by the thousands if not hundreds of thousands. The fact that it is a biofilm is key, as well as the fact that it is intracellular and cyst.

You may also want to check out a product called Wobenzym. You can get it the least expensive at Vitacost.com but it is an investment. It is a protein digesting enzyme that digests the biofilm and cyst, which will increase the effectiveness of any treatment plan you choose.

Don't ever lose sight of the fact you will will will conquer this disease.

Hi Susan,

I have two sister's who were bitten by ticks just three days ago. While I'm praying that they don't develop this debilitating disease, I want to be prepared with as many natural treatments as possible.

Thus, I have several questions.

1) The 1 gram of unrefined sea salt every hour or 1 tbsp total seems like quite a lot to consume each day. How many total glasses of water did you drink each day?

2) Did you have to consume high potassium foods, probiotics, avoid wheat/sugar/MSG, etc. to offset the higher salt intake and symptoms?

3) How often did you take 1 gram of Vitamin C? Three times a day? Every hour?

4) What is Herx? Is it very painful?

Thank you for your story and feedback!

Yvette

Hi regarding your question 'what is herx?' It's another name for 'The Healing Crisis' which you can Google. Here is also inflammation on Herx in Lyme disease.

Love Andrea C xxx

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My herbalist said to mix 1 gram of vit. C, Himalayan salt and oregano oil, 3 times a day.

Can I use pink hymalayan sea salt? Thank you for sharing your experience...praying it works for me....using 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide at 20 drops three times a day with stevia and its awful. God bless

... and taking a few capsules of Echinacea / Goldenseal by mouth a few times would help quickly rid any infections before they become strong & chronic. Echinacea (Purple Coneflower) was used extensively by Native Americans for poisonous snake & insect bites and Goldenseal was used for infections. Out west, the herb Chaparral (Creasote Bush) was used by Native Americans for all manner of illnesses, and is now regarded as a most beneficial herb for infections, parasites, snake & insect bites, is potent antioxidant, and one of my favorite herbs.

Dear ORH,

I think that the DMSO and silver sounds great for tick bites. I have found colloidal silver to be wonderful for tick borne diseases ( Colloidal Silver healed my dog of Ehrlichia when doxycycline did not.)

I had a deer tick on my leg for almost 24 hours. I thought it was a mosquito bite because it was itchy and I just wasn't paying attention. Then when I had on reading glasses, I could see that little tick. I put a drop of diluted oregano oil (25% that I keep in a bottle in my bathroom) on the tick. After a few minutes I removed the tick. The oregano oil also stopped the itching. I have no swelling at all today;I can hardly find the bite now. Usually I just use Apple Cider Vinegar on tick bites and take turmeric if the itch bothers me. I am going to experiment more with oregano oil for the tick bites. I just don't like the smell, but it will be worth it.

Timh mentions Echinacea, which I think Dave has also suggested for it in the past. I agree that this herb or a whole host of different immune supporting therapies (like high dose vitamin c) have much promise in dealing with and preventing Lyme.

Teasel root is also gaining a reputation for healing chronic lyme if it should come to that.

~Mama to Many~

HI U MAMA,,,,,,,,,, our boy, Mitch, worked at the farm with us today. When cutting cane along the creek he failed to see a black snake above his head. When he cut the cane it fell on his back and naturally scared his mule.

We watched as the snake climbed back to the top of the cane. Why it needed to be in the top of the cane is beyond me. Maybe to catch a bird.

In my youth, I had snakes fall into our boat while we were frog gigging. They would not hurt you, but would make you hurt yourself. We never killed them as they serve a purpose.

I have oregano, so I'll try that on my next tick bite.

==========ORH==========

Hi, I am really struggling, really bad neck pain under skin gravelly and stringy and lumpy, so tired and depressed and uncontrollable sobbing poor sleep. Have Lymes being treated with herbs and homepathics. Still feel awful, eat no nighthshades, no sugar or junk, get acupuncture and some massage, feel terrible, any ideas. I cut back 50 mg on gabapentin for moods, and feel so much worse, also on trazodone.

thanks serach

To Serach from Jerusalem,

In re what you think is a Lyme infection;

Obviously a manifold problem with many pathogens...bacterial...viral and likely fungal. We seem to see the whole ball of wax with Lyme.

So I use Colloidal Silver orally to start ridding the system of pathogens. I'd take three times daily on empty stomach; two tablespoons minimum. I make my own; got a little "generator" (just three batteries and two wires of silver)...and my dose is about 200 ppm. To get rid of system wide problem I take the CS for six months. I take CS apart from mineral supplementation.

If the problem manifests close to surface of skin as you describe, I take the CS mixed fifty/fifty with DMSO (google 60 minutes DMSO Dr Jacobs for good three part video). The DMSO will act as a carrier of the CS.

If I knew I had Lyme, I'd get on the anti microbial program immediately, before anything got to the spinal column or brain. Treating that problem would mean applying the same fifty/fifty mix to a white cloth and applying topically to base of skull and spine, three times a week for a month or longer until symptoms stopped. (Intense headaches, motor function problems, balance issues.)

I always make sure to focus on the "if this were me, I would try..." because I do not diagnose, treat or advise for another...all I do is tell folks what I'd do ... and usually have done if afflicted by similar symptoms.

"Pray for the peace of Jerusalem."

Dear Dave,

Could you tell me exactly where to buy what I need to make a generator to make cs, and what parts I need and exactly how to make it.

How much does it cost to buy generator. It is way too expensive to buy from store.

thanks Serach

I had lymes disease and took the doxycycline, but the tingling in my legs and feet came back even before finishing the prescription. I also developed a bladder infection which I usually cure with lots of pure cranberry juice. I noticed that my tingling stopped after drinking the cranberry juice so I drank it about 4 times a day and the tingling went away. I also noticed that the tingling came back after shaving my legs so I started to disinfect the razor. This helped. I also used anti-biotic cream on my legs and feet. You can feel the hairs on your legs stand up after drinking lots of cranberry juice. I figured the germs were trying to get away from the acid in my system so I would kill them with the anti-biotic cream when they migrated to my pores. I also tried to eat a low carbohydrat diet which also tends to change your ph to the acidic side and I heard that germs feed on sugar. Thank goodness this worked since my doctor would not give me any more doxycycline.

I am also from Chesterfield, Va. I was infected with Lyme in July 2010. I have had the same issue with the doctors, they won't even consider Lyme disease, "Lyme doesn't exist in VA" is just one of the lines the docs had for me, even though I had the EM rash, removed the tick myself & have had many symptoms. 31 days total of anti-biotics & the Lyme was still active. I also am treating myself with nutrition, exercise & herbs. Doing okay, but still having bad fatigue, numbess & tingling until a few days ago. I am taking Oil of Oregano now, it is a powerful anti-biotic, anti-parasiti, ant-microbial & much more. My energy has increased tremendously in 4 days! I am taking only 2 drops in juice twice a day & I feel like this could work, I would recomend making certain that nothing else your taking will create a bad reaction, but I think Oil of Oregano is a good option...... best of luck to all who are living with this disease.

Hi! I have same problem go to lyme org. They will refer you with a list of Dr. Literacy in lyme finally I found a Dr. one hr. away from where I live and I know he knows what he is doing .

This info looks helpful. You may want to do your own search for Samento, and see what else you find online.

http://www.townsendletter.com/July2010/sapi0710.html

If you even think that you have lyme disease, make sure you see a doctor. This disease is not treatable with any natural or herbal remedy. You need serious antibiotics and a lot of them. Even if you do go see a doctor, they are not always up to date with this disease. YOU have to do a lot of research for yourself and MAKE the doctor listen to you. If that doctor won't listen, find a new one. I developed lyme in 2009. The symptoms started showing up months after I had been bitten. When it got to the point when I knew something was seriously wrong I went to the Dr. The first appointment she ran blood work and showed that my white blood cell count was a little elevated and I had a fever. She said it was just a light grade infection and would go away on it's own. I went 2 weeks and of course no improvement. I went back to the Dr. I complained of no energy, aching body, mental fatigue. She had the audacity to refer me to a mental health specialist. I went home angry. There was no way in heck this was a mental health issue. I got on google and started looking for my symptoms and came across lyme disease. I also remember getting bitten by a tick earlier in the year. I did not have the bullseye rash. By this time I was in pretty rough shape. I stayed in bed most of the time and I could hardly come up with the proper words to even form a sentence. I made another appointment with the doctor. I insisted that she test me for lyme disease. Reluctantly, after informing me that lyme does not exist in the Memphis, TN area she drew the blood and sent the sample off to the lab. She also, wisely prescribed Doxycycline. 2 weeks later lab results confirmed lyme disease. By then I had done TONS of research. When I went back in for the follow up she still had no clue on the proper treatment. I had reems of paper with me with information on treatments and other peoples experiences. Luckily she took that into consideration and WE laid out a good course of treatment. I also made an appointment with an infectios disease specialist and honestly I had the same results with that Dr. "I've never really seen anyone with lyme" type of thing.

When taking antibiotics you're going to have a reaction to it. You're going to feel like you are 2 breaths from death. They call it herxing. It's a reaction of the dying bacteria giving off a toxic substance that you won't tolerate well. Truthfully, It just sucks!! You'll have to power through the 2-3 weeks of hell to get better. It's been 2 years since this has happened to me and honestly I'm still not 100%. The biggest complaint that I have is anxiety. I NEVER had anxiety problems before this. Now it's a constant problem. I believe this disease can do damage to areas of your brain or at least change the way some things work. I do feel a lot better though and am thankful for the antibiotics.

So, if you're just finding out that you have Lyme disease or you think you have lyme disease, Make sure you do your research and make sure you are firm with your doctors. This disease is not a joke. I wish you the best of luck and remember, this thing will change your life. Just try to stay in control and remember that things will get better.

Brian.

Hi brian, Did you not read any of the comments on this thread that you posted on I. E. the comments about how natural cures DO work??? I guess you didn't bother, else you wouldn't have wrote such unsubstantiated rubbish.

So who are you - a doctor or a pharmceutical producer/supplier? Please don't prey on vulnerable people in the future!

Hi I just googled nystatin for Lyme since I think it was 25 years ago I contracted this and was trying to figure out how I got many of my symtoms to go away for years ( I did not know I had it unitl 6 mos ago) and I remembered taking powder nystatin in water. Very interesting. I am having problems with the antibiotics but also use many other remedies. I think I could also have interfence fields from scar tissue. Trying to find out more. I have bad tremors on left side. Lots of stuff on left side. Great site!

What exactly do you mean "interfence from scar tissue?" I have some Lyme symptoms but also have had many abdominal surgeries over the years with the last being a colon resection last year. Surgeon said I had a lot of scar tissue. Symptoms started within two months after resection. Please help.

I am currently taking a homeopathic nosode for Lymes, EBV and mycoplasma and am feeling a lot better.

Where do you buy the nosode for Lymes, EBV and mycoplasma?

I was so happy to read about Professional Formulas Lyme Nosode Drops (they have Tick Drops too). Their Mold Nosode Drops drops helped me immensely a few years ago. And their products are very affordable.

You need antibiotics for lyme period. I have had it twice.