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I also have Hep C and I would also like very much to know about the h2o2 treatment. Wouldn't it be nice h202 worked for us? Please, if there is anybody that could help Marilyn and me with some treatment, let us know.
Milk thistle detoxes a lot, dandelyon, beet root plus carrot juice, artichokes... But is it true h202 works. Thank you all!
Love, Alicia
Hydrogen Peroxide
Hydrogen Peroxide
I have been diagnosed with HCV and used food grade 35% H202 starting with 3 drops in 6-8 ounces of distilled water and incrementing to this date by one drop each day to 24 drops. I have experienced healing crisis often but have been able to go to work. I am 70 years old. This evening I experienced quite a bit of blood in my stool. I don't want to stop my treatment, because HCV is deadly. So far there is no liver damage. I have searched the web to see if anyone else experienced blood in stool to no avail. Of course my doctor said there was no cure for my condition, but I do not believe that. I believe that only God can cure and only God knows if I will be cured.
The blood transfusion that I received in the 70s when my 7th child was born was tainted with HCV virus. I stayed in denial for years after being given that information. Now the doctor says my viral load has gotten very high, so I decided to try to find a natural cure. I hope someone can tell me the significance of the blood in the stool. (by the way my oldest daughter started the treatment with me and she only had arthritis and is on the way down from 22 drops with hardly any ill effects -- slight nauseau immediately after ingesting the mix). She no longer feels any pain from RA.
Hydrogen Peroxide
Blood's red cells count are going down. Hemoglobin is going down. Platelets count is going down. Liver's condition parameters, SGOT and SGPT, are going up (Worsen). I have not taken hepatitis c viral load test yet to see how the virus responds to the h2o2 treatment. My respond to these results is to stop using the h2o2, for at least one month, and continue using it for 5 weeks more after the resting. Then to take a hep.C viral load test. Meanwhile, using a liver detoxifier and regenerator to support the liver. I made the deduction from looking in some research, that it is mandatory, when using h2o2 internally, to use 1,000 mg of vitamin c, and chlorophyll, to avoid damage to cells. A good idea to add, is to use olive leaf oil (2,500 mg a day). It is possible to find it in capsules. I buy a 60,500 mg, 15% oleuperubin?, capsules container, for less than US $6.00. For liver support I'll have to choose, if it is the will of God, from:
1- Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator, from Now Foods,
2- Liv-tone, from Genuine Health,
3- Liver CS Plus from Logos Nutritionals, and
4- Liver Rejuvenation Support Formula, from Extreme Health USA
Hydrogen Peroxide
Instead of: "I buy a 60, 500 mg, 15% oleuperubin?, capsules container", it most says: "I buy a 60 capsules, 500 mg per capsule, 15% oleuropein, container"
Use the vitamin c, the chlorophyll, the olive leaf oil, and any food, one and half an hour before, and one and half an hour after using, internally, the hydrogen peroxide (H2O2).
Ted's Remedies
MMS (chlorine dioxide) worked for awhile-- it really brought the viral load down 25%.It took severla months. However the thyroid TSH levels went way out of wack. Ozone looks promising howeve rthe test results have not been back yet.
I have a suggestion: if a cure is posted, plese add the genotype. Thanks!
Chanca Piedra
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/hepatitis-b.html
https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/ayurvedic-herbs.html
The research on chanca piedra and hepatitis is also well known. Currently being researched for its effects against the AIDS virus. So, amongst all its other positive effects, Chanca piedra is also a potent anti-viral which has been well documented as being used for syphillis, typhoid, tuberculosis, malaria, colds, flu, UTI, venereal disease, dysentary etc. within ayurvedic medicine.
I've used this wonderful herb for a while now within a tri-herbal Indian remedy -- which equally includes both Tinospora cordifolia and Tumeric root. Chanca piedra is good at removing any form of stones or excess calcification from your body, I'm currently using this herb to investigate whether it can cure illnesses generally associated with nanobacterial problems -- these nanobacteria hide both in the stones and in the calcified arterial walls(as plaque) and are difficult to shift.
Here is a list of Chanca piedra's positive uses and effects:
MAIN ACTIONS
* expels stones
* kills bacteria
* Whole herb
* supports kidneys
* treats malaria
* increases urination
* prevents mutation
* relieves pain
* reduces fever
* protects liver
* mildly laxative
* detoxifies liver
* expels worms
* reduces spasms
* reduces inflammation
* kills viruses
* clears obstructions
* aids digestion
* reduces blood sugar
* lowers blood pressure
* lowers cholesterol
Data and research may be found at the Raintree Nutrition site here :
Chanca Piedra
Chanca Piedra
Those reporting the best results are not using other treatments. Some use of the B vitamins and vitamin C do seem to help some people. I have NO opinion on these other supplements you mentioned and have no clue as to what they are or how they will effect the BHT treatment. My advice is to keep it simple because that is what has worked very well for many people. Do NOT take a bunch of other supplements. I am THROUGH, done with trying to give what is at best an educated guess as to how all these different supplements will effect the BHT treatment. Many supplements including the milk thistle extracts seem to screw up the treatment. Make it NOT work. Keep it simple for best results. You can visit or join the BHT CURES group here for more on how best to use the BHT treatment:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BHTcures/
And or go here to read what has been posted at the EARTH CLINIC about this BHT treatment:
https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/BHT.html
Wishing you well and to be well, ...Oscar
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thank you,
ann
Anne
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I caught your post as I was sitting up waiting for my Oxycontin to kick in. Have you not read about all the side effects of the treatment they want to put your husband on? He will be worse for wear and I can pretty much garantee it will not work. He has a much better chance using the BHT and related vitamins with it. It is dirt cheap and a healthy alternative. I wish I would have discovered it when I found out I had hep c. The choice is yours and if he does do the conventional treatment he will probably be looking for anothr cure any how. Look in the ailment tab under hep c and read about all the people using the BHT method. It has even cured stage 4 liver cirhosis. I am currently taking it and fortunatly it has reversed most of the side effects from the interfuron treatment which didn't work, needless to say. The BHT has dramaticaly reduced my Liver Function Test numbers to near normal range. I am expecting to report a cure soon. I wish you well in your endevor.
Art.
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RESULT AFTER 3 MONTHS STOPED TRATEAMENT BECAUSE ROMANIAN STATENAU SPONSORISED TREATMEANT . i NO SPICK INGLISHS, A HAVE PROBLEMS !!! ;NON RESPONDERS; HAVE POSSIBILITY IN FUTURE?
MAIN DIAGNOSTICS AT TAKE IN: AT DISCHARGE: C VIRUS HEPATITIS
SECONDARY DIAGNOSTICS AT DISCHARGE: CHRONIC VENOUS INSUFFICIENCY AYHEROCLEROSA ASTHEPOPATHY OF INFRIOR MEMEBERS.HYPOTHYROIDLOBECTOMIE LEFT,ULCER DUODENAL CHRONIC ACUTIZATGASTRITA ERITATOASA EROZIVA
THANKYOU !
EC: We've emailed Joyce and asked if she can figure out any of the conditions Totan is referring to...
If I am guessing correctly, he has a chronic duodenal (area of stomach) ulcer that bleeds causing his need for blood transfusions.
Following "after treatment on" seems to be two different things they treated him with and the amounts of each. Viremia RNA stoded (studies) is probably bloodwork done after the treatment and the levels of the virus found in the RNA in the bloodwork.
Not sure what is meant in the second paragraph except that treatment was discontinued after 3 months. I suspect that Romanian Statenau translates to something like Medicare or Medicaid here and the government decided it was a waste of money to continue. Sounds cold hearted, but that is what it looks like. The next l sentence paragraph obviously means that the major diagnosis when he checked into the hospital and was discharged was Hepatitis C.
The final paragraph is giving the secondary discharge diagnoses: chronic venous insufficiency, ayheroclerosa (atherosclerosis or hardening & clogging of the arteries?), asthepopathy??? of inferior memebers (Believe this translates to some problem in the legs & feet).
The next part I believe translates to he has had the left lobe of the thyroid removed (?reason?) leaving him hypothyroid, the next part is just repeating the chronic duodenal ulcer.
If I had those problems I would be thinking dandelion and milk thistle to help the liver. I think his best bet on the duodenal ulcer is to eliminate all bleached flour from his diet (go to whole grain products here), another thing I have found will also send my stomach into revolt is any acid food or juice from a metal can. I think he might need to read everything on EC about cayenne stopping bleeding, and if it stops bleeding elsewhere, it should also stop it in the stomach, and it sounds like he needs to stop it quickly.
He didn't mention his age, but whatever it is, he needs to eliminate all carbonated beverages, all junk foods (I consider anything made with bleached flour or white sugar junk food), because whether we like it or not, we are what we eat and drink!
EC: Thank you so much, Joyce! We never would have figured that out... wow!
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http://www.healthsalon.org/428/canada-moves-to-make-supplements-illegal-bill-c-51/
As to the hepatitis C, there are two antivirals that I have tested that seems to work well. One is a 5% solution copper chloride, added to the acylclovir which increases its potency by 20 times. A copper chloride is prepared using most distilled water with 5% by weight of copper chloride. Then it is placed in a dropper bottle and is dropped on the acyclovir pill and allow it to react for a couple of minutes before taken.
A simpler method, that can be taken or combined with acylcovir is the bloodroot tincture 40% taken at 5 drops to 10 drops in a glass of water taken three or four times a day. For one reason or another the bloodroot tincture may somehow digested the hepatitis C.
I do have reports of a complete cure of hepatitis virus by flushing out the viruses completely from the body, although it caused a huge skin breakouts (but will stop completely the recurrence), using a Thai herbal medicine such as "Ya Keow" which is a camphor and borneol based herbs, along with some others. So camphor might be used usually a pinch which is 1/16 of a teaspoon as well as borneol may help somewhat in flushing them out, but very likely less effective then Ya Keow, but this is available only in Thailand so I have to make some modifications.
The remedy is also taken at the same time with copper-acylcovir (must prepare yourself since it's not available commercially), and drops of 25% sodium chlorite ( a commercial one is called MMS), is mixed using drops such as 5 drops plus 10 or 15 drops of vinegar dissolved in 1/2 glass of water taken three times a day for example.
Hepatitis C is relatively resistant to most medication with the exception of a few remedies one was a Chinese herbal medicne (Zhang Zhou Pien Tze Huang), but is prohibitively expensive but seems to work quite well for those who can afford it.
A zinc does have some antiviral effect on Hepatitis C, but not enough to completely kill them. It is quite true that inteferon does have anti viral effect on Hepatitis C, but it requires a lot of dose and then they don't go completely away in some cases. Perhaps that's why they discontinued, besides being somewhat expensive to administer.
The best remedy I can come up with that lead to a cure for at least a few case is the Acyclovir mixed with copper chloride solution in my opinion works better the Ribavirina (English is Ribavirin) and this kills them effectively.
Therefore a combination of copper acyclovir, in combination with another remedy, sodium chlorite 25% drops with citric acid or vinegar, as mentioned used in combination for a couple of weeks should noticed improvement within about a week. A large dose iodine, such as iodophor, has limited ability in killing of hepatitis C from my own experience in dealing with them. Taking the addition of magnesium chloride 500 mg a day, malic acid (with baking soda) at 1/2 teaspoon each three times a day, are the supporting remedies.
Unfortunately in Thailand, I don't have many people with Hepatitis C I would like to see and all of them are cured from either the Chinese herbal medicine or the Copper Acyclovir/Sodium chlorite, before I get to perfect the remedy. Therefore, this may not be a perfect remedy for many people since the numbers used at least here in Bangkok are too few. I guess doctors in most hospitals have more then enough, while on my side I don't have enough people to really see whether its consistent or not.
In any event, a viral Hepatitis C does get weakened with 5-10 drops of 3% H2O2, taken ever 2 hours and helps raise energy level. Methylene blue 0.1% concentration 3 drops x 4 is also possible to raise some energy level in weakness. Baking soda or alkalization is required to weaken them and is taken at 1/2 teaspoon x 3 times a day to further give some energy boost. A three tablespoonful of lecithin will help reduce liver of congestion, especially from the fats the liver has to deal with as lecithin is a fat emulsifier.
As to the duondenal inflammation, or possibly some sort of leaky gut, the lack of healing maybe most helped with some aloe vera, and magnesium supplements. Milk thistle may help liver a little, but that has never helped me that much, One clue to reduce intestinal pains and very well so is the milk of magnesia (magnesium hydroxide 8%) but without the aluminum hydroxide added. The milk of magnesia is an alkaline laxative that kills staphylooccus and other flesh eating bacteria that exists along the intestinal tract. The dose is often less then those on the bottle as per instructions - usually at 1/2 of the dose, at twice the frequency, but dissolved in a glass of water. I used fairly often milk of magnesia as a "contact antibiotic" both on the external skin area, for the use against the MRSA, or an internal staph or flesh eating bacteria, taken frequently, or in other case, the use against the toxic shock syndrome (TSS). The results of using of milk of magnesia (plus mabye some additional magnesium supplements, such as magensium chloride 500 mg) is fairly constistent against these bacteria that causes intestinal lining damage. Therefore most of the pain should be reduce within the day, at least for the intestines.
I have also found lysine to work fairly well if used in combination with hydrogen peroxide. for the hepatitis issue. However, in this case 20-30 drops of 3% H2O2 is added in a liter of drinking water that is drank regularly. The lysine is taken at 3000 mg x 3 or x 4 and has a very powerful antiviral for the hepatitis C in a few cases.
Ted
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Oleander
EC: Website referred to above: http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com/
WARNING! "Oleander is one of the most poisonous plants in the world and contains numerous toxic compounds, many of which can be deadly to people, especially young children."
"Despite a lack of any proven benefits[11], a range of Oleander-based treatments are being promoted on the Internet and in some alternative medicine circles, drawing a warning letter from the FDA in the US.[12]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleander
Oleander
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Homeopathy, Bioptron Light
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I have HCV myself, and I have tried many things over the years. Out of all the modalities I have tried probably the most powerful has been homeopathy. I have seen a few different classical homeopaths, and not everything they have given has worked. But when they get it right (and it is only a matter of time really) then enormous improvements to my health have occured. Most of my symptoms have been chronic fatigue, muzzy head, poor digestion, flatulence, and sometimes aching in the liver region. I haven't been able to work for years. A few years ago I was really bad, and if I did a few hours hard work, I would have to lie on the sofa for a few days after! I had constant low grade headaches, and was depressed. Then I got hold of this bioptron light machine, and I shone that on my liver region for 8 minutes every second day, as well as the face and thyroid region. Nothing happened for about 3 weeks, and then all of a sudden I noticed I was feeling a lot better. I have been much steadier since then, and cont. to use the bioptron light machine. It hasn't cured me, but it has made a huge difference.
At the time I couldn't afford to go to the homeopath so I didn't try homeopathy.
More recently I have been doing a lot of yoga and I believe that has helped a lot too.
Colloidal Silver
Things will work for some people & not others. A good attitude is a must. My dr told me flat out interferon. Pegatron etc will never make me feel less tired so I decided not to even try that poison again. I think saying anything is a cure is totally false & gives people hope. Lets get real & be honest.... We can help ourselves feel better & maybe go into remission but remember there is no sure cure! I am going to look into some of these things I've read here but I've dealt with Hep C a long time & people need to really be informed about what they take. Most gastro drs will not approve of these things. So do your homework & best of luck to all of us.
Colloidal Silver
Colloidal Silver
Dandelion
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Dandelion coffee, using roasted organic dandelion root, relieves liver. Simply boil roasted dandelion root - taste is acquired -I now find pleasant.
I used this in combination with fresh organic carrot, beetroot and celery juice.
It is a real discipline to juice 2 times a day and clean juicer! I did it almost every day , twice a day for 2.5 yrs until I became less disciplined!(less fanatical).
This and a zero alcohol policy greatly assisted my liver.
These things did not cure Hep C but I believe they greatly relieved symptoms and fortified my liver in prep for treatment.
(Hep C cleared via ribovarin/inteferon comb) - It was all worth it :)
Colloidal Silver, Hydrogen Peroxide
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Presently using 3% hydrogen peroxide in a nasal spray pump bottle- spray it down my throat, I pump it 5x 3-4 x a day and ACV a teaspoon 2x a day. Also use purtitans pride brand liv- a- new with milk thistle. Have had hep c for 25 years with a high viral count of 24 million but liver is not damaged, feel fine. did interferon for a year, it did not work.
Thanks, Curtis
Colloidal Silver, Hydrogen Peroxide
Colloidal Silver, Hydrogen Peroxide
Colloidal Silver, Hydrogen Peroxide
From the very limited feedback available at this time: one 350mg capsule of BHT taken twice a day with a gulp of water is safe and effective for most adult people. Also, thin and lean people seem to be those likely to have side effects. They require and desire less BHT, smaller dosages.
I very much advise thin and lean people to include at least 2 tablespoons of olive oil in their diets, taken seperately from the BHT. Waiting at least one hour after taking the BHT before taking that olive oil. This taking this olive oil is to insure an adequate source of high quality lipids.
I very much need feedback from the forum members using the BHT for hepatitis C treatment. All of the other over 150 million people of the world infected with hepatitis C need this feedback.
I know there are people out there dedicated to discrediting this effective treatment. This treatment works. And all thesse issues can be addressed here in this forum with feedback....Oscar
Colloidal Silver, Hydrogen Peroxide
EC: BHT stands for butylated hydroxytoluene. Please see the BHT remedies page for more information: https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/BHT.html
Milk Thistle
B12 injections.
Vitamin D
Vitamin C injection under supervised doctor
Milk Thistle at least 80% Sylmarin
Nacety cystein
Glutathion injection
You will be cure and feeling better in NO TIME. It is a therapy I took and developed after reading TONES of scientific ARTICLES from prestigious universities.
Milk Thistle
BUT, it DOES severely degrade the BHT treatment. The two treatments do NOT work well together. That statement is based on the substantial feedback from those using the BHT treatment. Some treatments simply do NOT work well when used together. Those using milk thistle with the BHT treatment have consistantly shown very poor results. BHT is a reactive compound when digested and metabilized. Those showing the best results and there are many, KEEP IT SIMPLE.
So, if you choose to go the BHT route for hepatitis C, keep it simple and do not take milk thistle or it`s extracts. The same is true with grapefruit juice. Don't use it with BHT. Some treatments simply do not work well together. Is that so hard to understand ? ...Oscar
Milk Thistle
My protocol is as followed:
B12 INJECTION, Vitamin D, Vitamin C injection, N acety cystein and Sylmarin or at least 80% Sylmarin. Try it and you feel better in NO TIME.
Milk Thistle
But the BHT treatment is obviously based on BHT. And certain compounds do NOT work well with BHT and silymarin is one of them. So for those people who choose the BHT approach to treating hepatitis C it is important that they know that. Again I am NOT questioning the value of your treatment which does not include BHT.
They are two different approaches to treating hepatitis C and there are other approaches also. Sincerely, ...Oscar
Milk Thistle
Milk Thistle
For many yrs, I have suffered complications consistent with Chronic Active Viral Hepatitis, although I have never been medically diagnosed thus. Also I have shown symptoms consistent with Fatty Liver as well as Primary Cirrhosis. I have used Milk Thistle, Artichoke, and Turmeric as primary herbs as well as many other herbs as supportive. Lots of nutrition like B-Vit, Lecithin, etc as well as Raw Liver Supplements. All this with marginal improvement (more like not getting worse). For some time the best results I got for the hep was glutathione precursor amino's plus Licorice, plus DMG. Eventually I had to drop the Lic protocol because of Hypertension/sodium retention, so I replaced with other anti-virals like St John'sWort and Echinacea but with not the net effect of the L. A couple yrs ago after reading about BHT here on E. C. I tried 250mg on empty stomach once daily with very good and noticeable results, but after couple months leveled off. All this time I continued with the other liver support herbs and take the BHT several hrs away. So I upped to 250 BHT to twice daily but with not much improvement. Desperate again, I began using Chanca Padra occasionally after having all but terminated the BHT. I experienced the best results with the Chaca Piegra than any other herb and rank it proly somewhere on the same level of BHT for effectiveness. Anyway, I now take 1 250 BHT wait 15 min and take one cap Chaca Piedra daily with as good a result as any other previous methods.
To sum up, personally I think some type rotation is the best method for especially those suffering severe or life-threatening situation/condition. A weekly rotations of Liver med protocol seems sensible although a monthly might be best (results will vary in individuals). In my case, I did not experience the anti-viral results with a somewhat identical protocol as Oregano recommended. I didn't experience deleterious effects of BHT plus the other nutrients Oscar recommends avoiding although I took those nutrients away from BHT. So, rotating on a daily basis (which is the method I am doing) may proove beneficial if done correctly and for specific cases. IMHO the BHT does it's thang 2-3 hrs fallowing ingestion. So I am suggesting BHT alone with no rotation is not going to produce the best results for the majoirty of patients, but again it's very much an issue of personal outcomes. Find what works best, like myself, even if it takes several yrs of testing/rotating.
Milk Thistle
Milk Thistle
So I'm not against your apporoach but the best is what it is more sound and approved by science.
My protocol for curing Hep C or B is as follows:
Injections : Vitamin B12, Vitamin C, Glutahtion
Supplements: Vitamin D, N acetyl cystein and Sylmarin or at least 80% Sylmarin standard extract.
All the best
Milk Thistle
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Davey D.
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Normal use doesn't cause it ...
Extreme Liver Support, Hydrogen Peroxide
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EC: These posts are referring to either 3% hydrogen peroxide found in your local pharmacy, or 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide found in certain health food stores or online.
Extreme Liver Support, Hydrogen Peroxide
Extreme Liver Support, Hydrogen Peroxide
EC: It is the name of a supplement: http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&resnum=0&q=Xtreme Liver Support&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wf
Extreme Liver Support, Hydrogen Peroxide
Extreme Liver Support, Hydrogen Peroxide
I researched for months until I came across a product called Nu-Liver available from Samglo Industries. I called and actually spoke to the scientist who developed it. He told me to take 2 in the am and 2 in the pm along with 200 mcg of Selenium and 1000 mg of Milk Thistle daily. Within 3 mos. my viral load went from 30,000, 000 to 8,000,000 and my ALT/AST were almost normal. My doctor ordered more labwork to determine the fibrosity of my liver and found it was less than the previous test.
Alas, I became unemployed and could not afford to return to the doctor for 2 years but I still kept up the regimen. I will be returning in a few weeks and will let you know the results.
Extreme Liver Support, Hydrogen Peroxide
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The H2O2 you put in your nebulizer must be of concentration of 3% or below. I think that Ted from EC said that 3% maybe too strong. Personally I would dilute the 35% food grade H2O2 in distilled water to obtain a solution between 1% and 2%. You try with it, and if things go fine try 3% but I would not go beyond 3%.
