Dietary Suggestions
Any feed back Ted, Bill or anyone? Thank you
Dietary Suggestions
The best thing anyone can do for HCV is watch and wait your diet ideas are fair but Coffee has now proven to be a protectant for the liver infected with HCV. It has to do with the oils in the bean.
The best thing a person with HCV can do is stop eatting anything that is made with anything other than a whole seed oil that has been cold pressed.
If you must use a oil for cooking do not use the stuff from safeway unless it is special cold pressed. Oh and limit red meats to small amounts and only meat that was not fed anitbiotics or was implanted with a hormone you need to know your rancher if you eat meat. Same with fish do not get "farm rasied" they are using powerful anitbiotics in the ponds.
I could write a book but my big reason for posting here is someone who came here saw those words and thought you are right cause it says Natural. GOD did not make silver water we did... It is NOT o.k. for the sick liver.
(Toronto, Canada)
08/20/2010
Drugs for Hep-C
Extreme Liver Support, Hydrogen Peroxide
★★★★★
(Manila, Philippines)
09/17/2008
(Dana Point, CA. USA)
10/29/2008
(Bloomingdale, Nj)
12/02/2009
What is extreme liver support? What is the dosage for 35% H2O2 Thank you
EC: It is the name of a supplement: http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&resnum=0&q=Xtreme Liver Support&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wf
(S. C., S. C., Dominican Republic)
01/30/2011
I am trying to help a friend of mine who has hepatitis C. We obtain these results after a therapy with Extreme Liver Support (2 capsules, 3 times a day), and 7 drops 3% food grade H2O2, in a glass of water, 4 times a day. There were 2 therapy sections, one for 35 days, and the other for 49 days. with a month for resting, in between:
At the therapy's beginning:
Virus count: 2,897,116 UI/ml
SGOT: 59.50
SGPT: 45.00
At the therapy's end:
Virus count: 5,960, 000 IU/ml
SGOT: 102.30
SGPT: 90.90
My friend Was using others supplements beside Extreme Liver Support and H2O2, so these results can not be, exclusively, tyed to the used of Extreme Liver Support and H2O2. Also, the first viral count was done in a different laboratory than the second one. I have some important questions in my mind, and doubs. Mean while I have desided to try a different approach to try the hepatitis, yet using natural, although not at all, natural medicine.
Any way, apparently bad, or good, jesus loves me and my friend. In Him there are ours strengths.
He bless you...
(Lisboa, Portugal!)
05/05/2012
(Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
02/21/2013
I have been reading all the different things people have been trying and figured I would turn you on to another one that has worked so well for me that my doctor asked what I was taking and is now prescribing it to his patients who can't handle the current regimen of Ribovarin and Peginterferon, as I myself can't.
I researched for months until I came across a product called Nu-Liver available from Samglo Industries. I called and actually spoke to the scientist who developed it. He told me to take 2 in the am and 2 in the pm along with 200 mcg of Selenium and 1000 mg of Milk Thistle daily. Within 3 mos. my viral load went from 30,000, 000 to 8,000,000 and my ALT/AST were almost normal. My doctor ordered more labwork to determine the fibrosity of my liver and found it was less than the previous test.
Alas, I became unemployed and could not afford to return to the doctor for 2 years but I still kept up the regimen. I will be returning in a few weeks and will let you know the results.
Extreme Liver Support, Hydrogen Peroxide
★★★★★
(Las Vegas, Nevada)
12/08/2009
I was reading that Walker from Calumet MI put H202 in a nebulizer. I need to know if it was 3% or 35% and how much to use. My wife and I both have HCV but she also has copd. I'd like to try this, I'm already using 35% along with apple cider vinegar, and a few other things. I've been doing them for about a month now and instead of getting a little worse each day, I actually feel a little better. I'm going to beat this stuff whatever it takes. I had a bad reaction to interferon therapy, I will find a way.
EC: HCV is the acronym for hepatitis C virus...
(Ottawa, Ontario, Canada)
12/10/2009
Answer about H2O2 in a nebulizer
The H2O2 you put in your nebulizer must be of concentration of 3% or below. I think that Ted from EC said that 3% maybe too strong. Personally I would dilute the 35% food grade H2O2 in distilled water to obtain a solution between 1% and 2%. You try with it, and if things go fine try 3% but I would not go beyond 3%.
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My question is directed to Bill... Can B-3 increase my liver enzymes?
I was taking 50 mgs in a multiple.. I then started taking B-3 with that and added 250 mgs per day...
This might not seem like much but I am very sensitive certain vitamins and herbs... I am obviously very concerned about my enzymes... I don't drink, smoke or take drugs...
The previous month I started on Essiac tea for the pain in my thighs as I also have peripheral neuropathy... The Essiac has helped some... Thank God as I was having trouble climbing stairs...
Thank you
(San Fernando, Philippines)
12/01/2012
Hi Karen... Dr Abram Hoffer used high dosages of B3 -- niacin, niacinamide and inositol hexanicotinate forms -- for decades to help people with schizophrenia, heart disease, fibromyalgia, cancer and other problems. He favoured the use of the niacin and niacinamide forms. Here is an interview where he gives his own opinion on the use of higher dosage niacin and liver toxicity:
AWS: What are the alleged "dangers" of niacin therapy?
AH: Niacin is probably not quite as safe as water, but pretty close to it. Patients ask me, "How dangerous is niacin therapy?" I answer them, "You are going to live a lot longer. Is that a problem for you?"
AWS: Data compiled by the American Association of Poison Control Centers (AAPCC) indicates that, over the past 25 years, there have been a total of one or two deaths attributed to niacin. When I looked for evidence to substantiate even this very low number of alleged fatalities, it was absent or assumed.
AH: There have been no deaths ever from niacin. The LD 50 (the dosage that would kill half of those taking it) for dogs is 6000 milligrams per kilogram body weight. That is equivalent to half a pound of niacin per day for a human. No human takes 225 000 milligrams of niacin a day. They would be nauseous long before reaching a harmful dose. The top niacin dose ever was a 16-year-old schizophrenic girl who took 120 tablets (500 mg each) in one day. That is 60 000 mg of niacin. The "voices" she had been hearing were gone immediately. She then took 3000 mg a day to maintain wellness.
AWS: If I do not press this point, a reader will: Maintained high doses of niacin may raise liver function tests, and this is used as evidence of harm.
AH: Niacin is not liver toxic. Niacin therapy increases liver function tests. But this elevation means that the liver is active. It does not indicate an underlying liver pathology. Dr. Bill Parsons discussed this extremely well in his book on niacin and cholesterol (Cholesterol Control Without Diet; Lilac Press, 2000). I personally have been on 1500 to 6000 milligrams daily since 1955. The biggest danger of taking niacin is that you live longer. One of my patients is 112. She does cross-country skiing and has been on niacin for 42 years. The fear doctors have of niacin is not based on data or facts and, like any myth, is very had to eradicate. So many patients are on niacin that by chance some will also have liver damage from other conditions such as alcoholism, hepatitis and so on. Niacin does not make it any better nor worse.
Source: Townsend Letter Novenber 2009
What can also fairly be ascertained from the above is that taking higher dose niacin will quite naturallty increase the working load for the liver. So if you have a liver with insufficient or weak function already due to Hepatitis C problems then taking higher dose niacin may tend to raise liver enzymes because the liver cannot cope or do its job so well.
I would advise that you just take B3 as B Complex -- which should contain niacinamide at a dosage of only 100 mgs. Take this once a day.
(Tampa, Fl)
12/02/2012
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I have read that it can be no good with hepatitis c.. Thank you & Much blessings
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1. Can this cause high liver enzymes because just got a test back and my levels are way too high
2. Can high liver enzymes cause brain fog?
3. My vitamin d is also very low apparently... Could this cause brain fog?.... Im going to start drinking dandelion root tea and taking a vitamin d supplement but in the meantime is there anything else I can do to get rid of brain fog/help my liver? sorry if im rambling brain fog sucks!!
Serenitysister: good news on liver issues is the Liver is a regenerative organ, unlike other organs. Only if the cell damage is somewhat severe as well as sustained is there little hope. And even now there are new and very promising treatments for cirrhosis. Anyway, there is many post and lots of info on the subject, here:
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/hep_c.html
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/liver_damage.html.
Hope this helps and good luck.
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A dentist from Tufts Dental in Boston gave me a pain medication for a root canal in 2003 which turned out to be the WRONG medication and I had anaphyectic shock and had to be taken to the hospital in the middle of the night...
They talked me into having a physical at the hospital which I hadn't had since I was born... They found out that I had hep-c and my liver enzymes were AST-33... ALT... 49... One was normal and the nother elevated by points... WHICH IS NOTHING! My PCP (Dr. Marilyn Kovnat) told me when I walked into the office for the results, "You don't have to DIE... You can take interferon. " It was like getting hit with a sledgehammer...
She also said I "NEEDED a liver biopsy. " I was very uninformed with regard to any of this includinfg what was hepatitis c... I had the liver biopsy and walked bent over for 6 months and my enzymes went close to 400 for both of them... I still have both enzymes over 100..
The point being to this mini story that my immune system was keeping my hepatitis c at bay... For 34 years... I had the biopsy and it awoke the virus and it has been hell since... The bottom line for anyone is DO NOT HAVE A BIOPSY... You can have a fibrosure test or a fibroscan test which is the state of the art in Europe and is NON_INVASIVE... It isn't a big money and because of this and (of course) is not recommended or approved in this country... BUT you can get on as I did in Beth Isreal Hospital in Boston...
Good luck and don't let the Dr's run your life... They're LESS ethical than used car sales men...
Finally my PCP talked me into going on Atenolol because my father had a history of high blood pressure... After 20 minutes of discussion/disagreements I agreed to go on it... Bear in mind I never ONCE registered high blood pressure... 9 months later I had to be wheelchaired into a hospital for a 4 1/2 heart operation for ventricular tachycardia... I had a Radio Frequency Catheter Ablation operation... Beware of Dr's advice...
Elissa, so sorry to hear of your negative relations in the medical community. My history in that arena is mixed; I am sometimes treated awful and sometimes very nice, but overall I haven't really gained much of anything, but have received some lifesaving measures when necessary.
Keep yourself educated and use as much alternative and natural therapies as possible and when you do go to conventional doctors try and be courteous and positive.
I hope you benefit here at E.C. as I have and keep us up-to-date on your condition as it is always good to hear a positive testimonial.
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Very new to this site and am grateful to have found it..
Thank you, Denise
(Riverside, Ca. United States)
07/28/2012
Denise, I have been using desiccated liver or Liquid Liver Extract for over a decade (on and off) for Cirrhosis and general anabolic nutrition w/ marginal results. I would recommend D. L. starting w/ a small dose. If you are over 50 yrs or your hep-c is severe I would consider bumping up to Liquid Liver Extract 3-6 daily. As far as viral replication, you would need to use any number of anti-viral protocols recommended here on E.C., as well as some Milk Thistle Seed Extract.
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I had a Primary Care who noticed higher Liver Enzymes and was subsequesntly tested for Hepatises C. I have been keeping track of different lab results and Ultra sounds for the period over 18 months. I would be willing to share in exchange of some guidance. I am preparing to start a new meds approach but open to alternative methods.
If this is something that interests you please email me at thoreauhouse(at)yahoo.com
Thanks, James
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I did Ted's 4 day aspirin and lysine while waiting on the bht. Also milk thistle.
I just read there is sometimes fluctuation to normal. What do think about that? I am still tired but I feel a great psychological lift. This is good news isn't it?
(Seattle, Wa)
07/30/2012
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Also had a weird reaction to BHT... Eyes burn, feel "wired". Gave it to someone else with Hep C to try. Lysine is fine, beta-glucan, fine. Had associated psoriasis which now seems to be on its way out. Think those things account for that?
Thanks for all the great suggestions, Ted.
