Natural Remedies for Chronic Viruses

I was too tired to hunt down my netti pot, but I wanted to do what I could to kill any germs in my sinuses, throat and ears, primary points of germ introduction to the body and places where viruses replicate.

I put a teaspoon of salt into a mug with a cup of hot water. I snuffed it up into my sinuses and gargled with it a few times. I put hydrogen peroxide in my ears.

I repeated this before going to bed. I also drank a mug of vinegar tea (1 T. vinegar, 2-3 t. honey, hot water). I got a good night sleep (6.5 hours counts as good for me) and did feel much better when I woke up in the morning.

I continued my attack on viruses with my salt water and peroxide a few times during the day.

I felt fine by bedtime and have felt fine since.

I love cheap and easy remedies!

My mother was a strong advocate of salt water gargling, but I never saw the point. It just seemed too simple. I should have paid more attention to her wisdom!

Tuesday the fever was gone but the headache and sore throat continued. I was able to at least start my "go to's" for sickness. I gargled cayenne pepper and salt water several times a day, used the neti pot with hydrogen peroxide, sea salt and warm water, tons of vitamin C, peroxide in the ears, nebulizing colloidal silver...No holds barred - I didn't have time to be sick.

This virus has been around the community for weeks. Most of my kids had it a month ago but I was somehow spared at that time.

Wednesday I still didn't feel as well as I thought I ought to feel and I was a bit indignant. I have never needed to repeat the cayenne for a sore throat that many times...then a neighbor mentioned that she had found colloidal silver to help the throat a lot with the sore throat with this sickness. So, I switched tactics.

Every few hours I put a few Tablespoons of colloidal silver (30ppm, homemade) in a mug and gargled it and swallowed it. That DID make my throat feel better quickly and also helped the swollen lymph nodes in my neck.

At bedtime, I had to do something for my terrible headache and the pressure in my head. I decided to try castor oil. I poured castor oil on a clean white cloth and covered my eyes and forehead. I covered that with plastic and attached it to my head with a bandana. I put a towel on my pillow and went to bed. At that time I was congested and breathing through my mouth (which was making my mouth so dry...)

Four hours later I woke up and realized I was breathing through my mouth! I took the castor oil pack off of my head and went back to sleep.

I woke up a few hours later feeling shockingly improved. The relief in my head was amazing. Ear pressure was gone. Eye pain/pressure was much less. Sinus congestion and pressure was much less.

I continued the colloidal sliver gargling and guzzling through the day and was even well enough to run errands all day with little kids in tow. And at bedtime I was sweeping the floor because I wasn't even exhausted yet!

One interesting thing to note is that I knew a bad cough was coming along with this virus, so I started the colloidal silver in the nebulizer in the beginning. And the cough never did get bad and never woke me at night. I should have gotten the hint that colloidal silver was the key to killing this virus!

I have loved colloidal silver and castor oil for a long time, and my respect for each has increased a lot this week!

~Mama to Many~

Around 2 in the afternoon yesterday, I suddenly started to feel a dull ache all over, with all muscles feeling increasingly stiff minute by minute. My brain started to feel very foggy. I immediately took 4 low dose aspirin with a glass of water. 2 hours later, symptoms gone. This morning, I feel totally fine. Aspirin works for me every time I catch a virus early on. Thought I would share.

Since early December, I have had two viruses but was able to nip them in the bud with the homeopathic remedy Oscillococcinum (3 doses, spaced 6 hours apart), several doses of medicinal mushrooms called Host Defense My Community (one of my favorite daily supplements) and 1 turmeric capsule taken 3 times a day with plenty of water. Remarkably, no mucus, no cough, no nothing. My mild symptoms completely gone within 48 hours.

Please add the turmeric to your arsenal of remedies when you get a virus or tend to get a cough. Quite amazing.

For your sore throat, try gargling with 1.5% hydrogen peroxide(HP). I have found this to be very effective for a sore throat. Come back and let us know how it works for your sore throat.

As to why oral HP has not helped your lung infection, one possible explanation is that long before the HP can reach the lungs when taken orally, it is neutralized by a potent antioxidant of the body called catalase into oxygen and water. That creation of oxygen is thought to be one way that oral HP offers benefit to humans.

Art

When one starts feeling sick with a common cold or the flu, or sore throat, timing is very important if you want to nip the sickness in the bud. Complex approach is also very important.

When one of my family members who came for a visit had started exhibiting first signs of sickness, we immediately started this 3 day treatment protocol:

1. Baking soda - drinking a baking soda solution according to the established protocol (just google).

2. Boiron Oscillococcinum, a homeopathic remedy - a tube every 6hr according to instructions

3. HP inhalation using a nebulizer - 5-8 drops in a 3-5ml saline solution, twice a day

4. lots of water with lemon and rest

5. High dose vitamin C (up to 18g a day if tolerates well, but 6-8g at a minimum).

6. L-Lysine 500mg 3 times a day

3 days later he was 90% better, but finished the baking soda protocol because it is 5 or 7 days, I forgot.

His initial symptoms were fever, a runny, nose, fatigue, tiredness, body aches and I believe some cough.

As you can see the treatment was focused on his entire body, on raising its abilities to fight the pathogen(s).

If he had a sore throat, we would have added gargling, such as an iodine solution for example.

The HP solution you were using was killing the pathogen "locally", so to speak, while your body's defenses remained weak allowing the virus or bacteria to continue multiplying and getting into your chest.

During the the Covid-19 issue, I was a frontline person with constant exposure to sick people. Being a strong proponent of self care, I researched all the info presented by many people and Dr. Bernstein has the most documented success. Along with Dr.Mercola, I felt the following was the best solution for me.

If I was exposed, I did the following,

• 1 drop food grade 3% h202
• 2 drops 2% Lugols iodine
• 3 ml normal saline solution

put above in a nebulizer cup

Nebulize with a table top nebulizer

frequency:

1. Use as needed once a day if minor cold like symptoms present. Start immediately

2. If symptoms get more pronounced, two times a day

3. If breathing problems begin, hourly until you begin to feel better, then back to 3 times a day, then back to 1 time a day

I never got to #3 because I caught anything early. The key is to CATCH it early. If my throat got scratchy or my sinus kicked in, this is what I did. Because there are so many unknowns, the Lugols seems to take it to the next level for me.

Folks - have everything you need for the coming Fall and Winter. Hugs to you all!

I believe that iron is much more likely to be a pro-viral influence than an anti-viral influence. This would depend on (1) whether the iron is affecting your hemoglobin levels in your red blood cells (an aerobic, antiviral mechanism) or (2) whether it is merely storing in your serum ferritin (a neutral mechanism), or (3) whether some of the iron is escaping your ferritin and "leaking" into your serum (an anaerobic, proviral mechanism).

Simple blood tests for serum ferritin, TIBC (total iron-binding capacity) and hemoglobin-iron level would tell you what is what. Low hemoglobin defines anemia. But low hemoglobin with normal ferritin and normal TIBC in NOT iron-deficiency anemia. Taking iron does not help in that case. You are more likely to need a B12 and/or folate-related supplement, or B6 or B3, or a methyl-donor supplement.

Menstruating women are at highest risk for iron-deficiency anemia, which is why most doctors prescribe iron supplementation without checking their female client's iron status. But if you have some other kind of health problem that might be unrelated to anemia, getting a total-body iron assessment.

Estrogen-dominant women have told me that their PMS symptoms ease greatly when they get their estrogen balanced.

In following people with chronic viral problems for four decades, I have found three lifestyle factors which I believe put many people at increased risk of viral problems. These are in the BHT Book, but I will list them here: (1) estrogen dominance, affecting young women and old men, (2) veganism and vegetarianism (vegetable foods are alkaline forming foods, and milk and egg proteins are more alkalinizing than flesh proteins), and hypothyroidism / hypometabolism (low body temperature, low pulse rate, ease of getting chilled, borderline depression, slow wound healing, a tendency towards constipation, low blood pressure (until it becomes high blood pressure), and on and on). These are all tied together in that they create an anabolic-alkaline-anaerobic metabolic imbalance that viruses like. See the book for details.

The popular view is that viral problems are caused by exposure to viruses, and that chronic viral conditions are from virulent strains. Let me suggest a different view that should give you hope: viruses become (a) more virulent in people with alkaline-anabolic-anaerobic imbalances and (b) less virulent in people with acidic-aerobic-catabolic imbalances. In other words, it's the SAME virus expressing itself differently in people of different metabolic types. This is why child-vectored viruses and bacteria tend to be more debilitating; children are more anabolic-anaerobic-alkaline than adults.

So are the elderly and the chronically ill.

Low basal metabolic rate (hypometabolism, or hypothyroidism) is made worse by estrogen dominance. Same with an overly alkalinizing diet. Any anti-metabolic factor adds to the synergy between these kinds of influences. Heavy metal toxicity, fluoride toxicity, mycotoxin sensitivity, pesticide exposure, adverse drug effects, positive ion pollution, aldehyde exposure, food hypersensitivities, chronic inflammation--the list goes on and on. But the good news is that drugs like BHT (see elsewhere in Earth Clinic) and nutrients like vitamin D3, A (not beta-carotene), magnesium, B12, B6, selenium, copper, oxygen, superoxide, strontium, manganese, glutathione, cysteine (and NAC), fat (especially PUFAs), liver and other organ meats, all have antiviral activities--some subtle, some dramatic.

Good luck to you.

After my first dose, I felt a difference right away. My stomach felt "different". I continued with the cider vinegar and 3 months later, I am completely cured. It didn't happen overnight for me as I had 4 weeks in China to recover from. But I am so grateful for finding this site. I'm also thankful for all the comments that persuaded me to give it a try. Thanks to all those who posted comments as you certainly gave me the confidence to give it a go - your comments cured me!

I ran out of my iron supplement about a month ago and didn't bother to buy more. Sure enough 2 days after I finished my period, I got a nasty virus. Finally I put two and two together and realized how important iron is to the immune system. The only time I EVER get sick is right after my period finishes! I'd be curious to know if this happens to other women at the end of their periods. Anyways, my message is for women - if you are anemic or borderline anemic, don't forget to take iron!

At the beginning of a virus: take 3000 mg of Vitamin C along with one 400 I. U. softgel of Vitamin E.

I'm an R.N. And had not heard of this before until a friend of mine in healthcare mentioned a couple of years ago. Apparently Vitamin E has a synergistic effect on Vitamin C. 3000 mg of Vitamin might sound like a lot; but remember C is water soluble, so what your body doesn't use, you'll pee the rest out. Granted Vitamin E is not water soluble, but I only take this concoction when I begin to feel sick. I'll take it as soon as the symptoms begin, then when I go to bed, when I wake up the next morning, and usually one more dose several hours later. I typically don't need to take it more than that as my symptoms disappear and whatever it was that was starting never culminated into a cold or anything else. You can buy Vitamin C where each tablet is 1000 mg; so you only need to take three of them. They're large and granted Vitamin C is kind of bitter, even if they're flavored tablets and the larger ones tend to be more expensive; but I prefer to do that as opposed to taking several of the smaller ones that are a smaller dose per tablet.

Anyone I've mentioned this to by the way, has eventually gotten back with me telling me that this worked for them.

I've only recently returned to nursing full-time as I had been a FT CSI while working PT as an R.N. For 13 years... So I'm still in the process of building up my immunity level. Most people in healthcare, after working full-time for 6 months, will have never been sicker those first 6 months, and then suddenly, it seems you just don't get anything. In the meantime, I'll stick with C & E regimen. It's worked every time without fail so there has to be something to it. I've been using it for about two years now since my friend told me about it.

Thanks for reading, and I hope this works for anyone else who may try it.

This are his instructions:

Take a teaspoon full of pure, fresh lemon juice every half hour for two hours, in other words, four times.

Don't drink any liquids for 10-15 mins before or after a dose of lemon. Don't eat either.

I have tried this many times and yes, it works very well! Try to avoid your teeth as lemon can also effect tooth enamel.

If the condition is very severe, do this for three hours, or six times.

This naturopath felt it was better than taking lemon as 'lemonade', that is lemon juice and water as it dilutes the lemon, and by taking it over a couple of hours-- it, to quote him, 'does not give the little buggers time to regroup".

You will find that lemon juice does give you energy as the poster above mentions.

One last thing: I have been using a squeeze of lemon juice instead of deodorant for several years and am thrilled not be putting chemicals under my arms. The juice works incredibly well! I told and a friend, she tried it and liked it so well, she went out and put a lemon tree in her backyard!

It is a good thing we have TWO lemon trees in my back yard--as we use lemons on everything--they are God's gift to us--and even come in a bright, attractive packaging! :)

Good luck, hope this helps someone!

It is partially based on my experience and partially what I have read about aspirin. The literature on this aspect of aspirin is minimal as I'm sure you have found. I think a few other nsaids like ibuprofen and indomethacin may have antiviral activity also. Here are a few links that suggest as much.

http://circres.ahajournals.org/content/83/2/210.full

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM198809223191218

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1988-10-05/news/8802040794_1_aspirin-flu-virus-cells

I think Ted suggests dissolving the aspirin in water and then drinking it to help avoid stomach issues and I have had fairly good effects that way. I mentioned the topical pain reliever formulation to a friend who had shingles and told her that it may help with pain as well as the virus itself. She tried it as a spray and it started to alleviate her symptoms within an hour and she told me she felt normal again after three days of use.

In another person with shingles, who I had mentioned the topical pain reliever to, they decided to mix aspirin with gold listerine because that what they had in their medicine cabinet and said that it helped relieve their symptoms and shorten the duration of the outbreak.

Here is a recent study suggesting that ibuprofen may have potent antiviral activity toward the Ebola Virus:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4482208/

...... indomethacin:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25856684

It seems clear that there is plenty to still be learned about nsaids and their full potential.

With some nsaids , when they are combined with a No donor and or hydrogen sulfide, their potency and effects increase very significantly as described here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26094902

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4492749/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25636606

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22222427

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23918470

Art

You're welcome!

Here is a quote from Ted which is pretty much to the point regarding aspirin:

It should also be noted that acetyl salicylic acid or a more common name, aspirin, tends to destroy the fungus and the protein of the viruses. Therefore the aspirin also help kill them.While a student of microbiology, I observed that adding micromolar concentrations of aspirin to prevented the growth of fungus, virus, and bacteria in culture dishes because the salicylic acid tends to dissolve the protein protecting these organism. What is so surprising is that most people don't know this fact. Even simple mineral salts in micromolar concentrations in general does a great job killing it also with no toxicity to the healthy cells.

Art

Well, a couple of my little ones have chicken pox. So far it is pretty mild but I am trying to be pro-active with Elderberry Syrup to help their immune systems and extra virgin coconut oil as a natural anti-viral. I became convinced of what a powerful antiviral coconut oil is when my son had mono and coconut oil caused him to turn the corner in 36 hours, after weeks of sickness. However, one of my little ones doesn't like coconut oil. So, I made some "anti-viral candy" to get it into little ones. And, of course, you don't have to be sick to enjoy this! Here is the recipe:

Antiviral Chocolate-Peppermint Candy Recipe

(or, How to get Coconut Oil into the reluctant consumer.)

1 cup extra virgin coconut oil (the stuff that smells like coconut oil)

3 - 4 Tablespoons Raw Honey

1/3 - 1/2 cup raw cacao powder

1/2 teaspoon vanilla

2 drops peppermint essential oil

Melt coconut oil, if it is not already melted. (Not in the microwave.) Mix in remaining ingredients. Stir in remaining ingredients. Line an 8x8 pan with wax paper. Pour mixture in. Place in refrigerator for 2 hours. Remove from refrigerator. Carefully remove wax paper. Cut into 32 squares. Store in the refrigerator.

Each square will be 1 and 1 half teaspoons of coconut oil. For an adult, I try to give 3 Tablespoons of coconut oil a day, if I am using it for its antiviral properties. For a child, I am giving 1 and a half teaspoons three times a day.

A bonus is that raw honey also has anti-viral properties and cacao powder is nutritious, too.

You can skip the peppermint if you do not care for it.

Enjoy!

~Mama to Many~

I've gone through what you are experiencing...three times and all three times had to resort to:

THE REMEDY

Don't spread this around because as a Baptist Tea-toddler.... well, you'll see.

First, I assume the infection is lingering in the lungs. That is typical for lasting infection.

I learned this when I was 35 years old in Vicksburg Mississippi when my wife and I were at an ANCIENT B and B and the owners just as ancient as the B and B.

It was there that I was told the "secret" of ....

THE REMEDY

(Imagine you self being told this information under swaying River Oaks, sitting yards from the flowing Mississippi...submitted in hushed sentences as the honey suckle blossoms gave away their aroma ... just as the "secret" was being given away to me. "You will keep this to yo self, won't you Mista Dave?" "Oh, yes ma'am ... not a soul.")

Get the following:

One bottle of ROCK and RYE with lemon already inserted.

Add a teaspoon of raw sugar to each half glass of the R and R.

Close yourself off in a room that has access to a lot of heat.

Wrap in a blanket. Start this process when room is about 90 degrees.

Begin sipping the liquid. One sip every three or four minutes.

My first use of THE REMEDY resulted in a general condemnation of all things "Vicksburg Mississippi"....I though, "No wonder we lost the war."

But I digress.

After 15 minutes of this...this sweating, terrible discomfort, I began gradually to feel a little more relaxed.

I continued to sip and in about an hour was not tipsy at all but rather comfortable. I was surprised. After about four hours the bottle had been consumed and I, well, had just gone to sleep and slept through the rest of the night.

The next morning I had no more cough or lingering tickle in my bronchial passages or lungs. And I had a new energy back.

Two other times I've repeated when a left over flu bug is lingering.

Now for THE REMEDY number 2.

This remedy for the same ailment but an alternate given to me by a lady who is a prosecutor in South Carolina. We were sharing remedies when she gave me this formula that she said worked on her children and that she learned as a girl growing up.

First take two fresh cloves of garlic. Clean and mince very fine. Place on toast and eat and swallow with juice (helps to get it down).

Next take two thousand mg of ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) in water and sip down over an hour. If swallowing pills, spread out over an hour.

Your are going to do this five times during the day or 5, 000 mg of Vitamin C. Take another two cloves of garlic in the same way described above but eight hours later.

So in one day you'd take 4 cloves of garlic and 5, 000 mg of Vitamin C.
(Adjust the dosage for younger children. Use common sense in how much.) Do this for at least 3 days.

I have used both methods in getting rid of lingering flu problems.

In re Htlv;

A good article on Htlv... a retro virus... on Wikipedia and for those interested in retro viruses also a mind numbing article on the method of host cell invasion by this particular envelope virus.

It is hard to kill an envelope virus. The envelope is a protection surrounding the virus.

So the attack on such a virus requires tenacity over time. There are lots of anit virals which are "natural."

At the top of my list is colloidal silver, my standby for twenty years. If this were me, I'd take three tablespoons daily on empty stomach. Self monitoring is crucial. I'd expect to see improvement within a month. For instance, if I manifested with a gait problem, then in a month I'd expect to see my walking improve by maybe 10 percent. So that would encourage me to continue.

To kill an envelope virus that has infested body wide I would be taking orally 3 tablespoons for two to three years. YEARS. I'd not want to over consume the CS. Too great a kill off could be harmful; it's slow and easy. (To test your CS to make sure it is effective, if you get a sinus infection or sore throat, then irrigate the sinus for the former and gargle for the later and you SHOULD see immediate relief if your CS is effective. That's the test...does it work?! ?

There are other viral killers; echinacia, Lysine, lomatium, N Acetyl Cystine, germanium 132, lauric acid, sodium lauryl sulfate, zinc, lavander oil, tea tree oil, magnesium chloride, squalamine, Calcium AEP and DMSO. BHT seems to work on Hep B and C, that might also be considered.

So I might be eclectic but I'd consider the basic to be Colloidal Silver. And I'd also give myself a weekly sinus/ear irrigation of the silver. If I feel the infection in the lungs, I'd get an inhaler and breathe deeply the CS as a steam...for three or four minutes a few times weekly.