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I followed the protocol to the letter. I was fine the first 3 weeks while increasing the amount gradually from 1/4 cup of beet juice to full cup with no side effects. When I started 3/4 cup on my 3rd week, it was noticably more difficult to finish the glass, with a very slight nausea following the juice. A few other minor side effects such as headache and sore throat also felt, but very mildly. The very first full cup however, caused a severe nausea, and the second day full cup caused vomitting. But I also was in a hurry that day, literally pushing down the juice and 3 apples, and 2 carrots. So I have reduced the amount to 3/4 cups for another week. At the same time, I slowed fown the consumption speed, and added Apple Cider Vinegar 2TB to the juice. I've never had any side effects since then. Now I've been at least a week on a full cup MBP 2 TB ACV, taking in the juice slowly, and having just 1 or 2 apples and one carrot after, and not feeling any nausea at all. My husband, who was taking a short version of MBP, because he could not tolerate cinnamon, was taking it still a little bit harder than me, having sore throat and headache for the most part of the day after MBP. He followed my advice to drink slower, and with ACV, and he stopped having these side effects, too. So it seemed to work for us to be able to continue with MBP. It is still not easy, but quite tolerable.
Now benefits... Nothing dramatic happend after a month:(. My main health concern was chronic sinus inflammation, which seemed to be better the first week, but now is just as bad as ever.
However, I have a definite energy increase. A few days I missed MBP, I felt my energy level going to usual low level. My face skin became noticably younger, with fewer and shorter outbreaks. I dropped no more than a pound, but I certainly feel lighter with less abdomen bloating. Also, we did not get sick this fall, with so many sick people around. Even my husband, who is very succeptible to sore throat, with his recent overwork and a couple of chills, was sick for only 1 day, which is VERY FAST recovery for him. He had absolutely no time to get down, so we were so happy he did not, I credit MBP for that. My hair loss is reduced, the last period passed easier, my emotional state also seems to be slightly more balanced. So, yes, I certainly can see the benefits of MBP, even though we were on a full serving for only a week. I am looking forward for tackling my sinus and weight loss.
(New York, Ny)
01/01/2013
You should really start with 1/4 this amount and build up way slower, no need to rush. It's a 6 month process.
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Anyone else experience anything like this? I will say, I just very well might be cleaning up a pretty toxic system, and I could be on the right track. I feel like this is die-off like I have never experienced from anything I have tried in the past. Sorry for the loooooong post... Still hopeful in Seattle!
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To explain; My husband has worked in landscaping for many years, and the first seven years he worked with a company that used pesticides, and did not allow workers to use respirators or any protection. Now he uses mostly organic, but still have to use them occasionally, and with more caution. He has severe allergies every spring for months, (running and swollen eyes, feverish, sneezing uncontrollably, runny nose etc)... and cannot eat raw apples or now any fruit raw, without getting a dry, itchy metallic flavor in mouth/throat. Since we got together, I have slowly started getting the same allergies over the last 5 years, and the other day I could only take a bite of Apple, had to leave the rest; severe itchy/ dry metallic taste mouth/throat. We eat almost completely organic at home, although he doesn't stick to it as much as me... we eat a lot of tortillas, maize, beans, meat and try to include veggies/fruit every day in some form.
i love raw fruits and veggies, and don't know how to do a detox since we both react to them. (Lettuce, tomatoes, and greens seem fine raw) Cooked anything seems to be fine... Even strawberries I have to cook slightly, just a minute or so, to make a pudding or marmalade, and then we can eat them. Same with Apples; if I make apple sauce or apple pie we're fine, but raw; No...
What can I do? Could it be allergies related to Salicylates? Why has his allergies transfered to me? Could it be residual pesticides in his body? Is there a detox that can cure that?
Thank You so much to everyone who posts, this is wonderful. I wish to detox, I have so much pain, but don't know how to start...
Aurora
Aurora, a comprehensive detox program includes the exterior as well as interior environment. Thoroughly clean your home w/ natural cleaning products. Many people already filter their water, but neglect to improve on the air. In addition to at least an electrostatic filter (a better alternative is the HEPA technology filters) in your air unit, it is necessary to add a floor or desk-top air purifier to further destroy toxins which translates in increased oxygen content of your home. Negative Ion technology type purifiers are quite effective. Also, it is possible that you live close to a major electric power lines which causes magnetic radiation poisoning which almost always translates into allergies and sensitivities, sometimes severe especially over a period of many yrs.
As for the internal environment here's two links to get you started:
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/detoxification.html
http://www.jonbarron.org/detox/natural-health-program-full-body-cleanse
Also, supplementing antioxidant nutrition is very important. Vit-A, Vit-E, Carotenoids (mixed C complex is best), Pine Bark or Grapeseed Extracts, Vit-C w/ Bioflavonoids. Coenzymes like Alpha Lipoic Acid, CoQ10 or Ubiguinol, and Co-1 or NADH are great antioxidants as well as energy boosters.
Hope this helps and good luck.
(Palo Alto, Ca)
09/17/2012
Thanks Tim; As for our air at home; I'm not sure why I should get a filter? we have windows/doors open all year; we like to hang out or have meals on our patio/garden. No carpets. I dust/mop floors about 2-3 days a week. All natural cleaning products, a few drops of chlorine sometimes to desinfect bath.... I love fresh air! We run an electric heater in winter just for an hour or two/day only as needed.
Update; we've decided to try to do the MBP anyway, just peel the veggies and apple, and see how it goes. I was able to eat a peeled apple fine after the juice this morning! No reaction at all! So it looks like the natural instecticides in the peel of fruit/veggies might be what we both are reacting to.... I wish I would have heard about salicylates before...
As for magnetics: There are no powerlines here, at least above ground that I can see, but it's a thought; where do you get an EMF detector? I seem to feel magnetic fields more than most people....
Thanks Again!
Aurora, looks like your OK on the exterior, so now focus on the interior environment. In addition to the antioxidant supplements I suggested, a very important one is NAC / N Acetyl Cysteine, one of the best Glutathione (the body's master antioxidant) precursors. Quercetin/Bromalaine is good for allergies. Acidity can cause hypersensitivity so try Ted's bicarb buffer remedy. Heavy metals can be a culprit so try some Cilantro herb for several wks. Hep C is a possible culprit as it will compromise liver detox. BHT eradicates the Hep.
Just some suggestion from afar, but you can objectively test PH levels, Heavy Metals, and Hep C for conclusive diagnosis. Whole body bath w/ Baking Soda & Epsom Salt will help (2x week) overall (this will provide a buffering so it would eliminate an oral route). To maximize the cleansing a good herbal detox like Dr. Christopher's "Red Clover Combination" 30 min prior to the bath will help clear any chemical or heavy metals from the body.
Let us know of your progress.
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Thanks for everyone's information. I've spent hours reading posts on fibromyalgia on EC as I'm going round in circles trying to find the best treatment for myself.
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)
08/09/2012
Hi Anniejay, I did not do that version but rather his first protocol. It appears that you can do exactly that according to his instructions as he says it's the easier version to do but you are consuming more liquid. Just remember to eat the apple afterward. Read his instructions carefully and follow them because if you read people's testimonials on EC you will see some nasty experiences due to not following them! It's a powerful detox and I have to say, having read his cautions, it made me listen! And I'm not always good about that... At any rate, it is amazing and eventually I did not have to follow with the apple and carrot and felt fine. Of course, that was well into the protocol.
Hope this input helps, Lisa
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I'm not so sure you would want to be doing the mini beet protocol 5x a day! Perhaps in the morning and then other veggie juices. I say that because it's pretty intense and I think others who have experienced this would agree. Hope this helps, Lisa
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(Anytown, Usa)
06/15/2011
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Minni, the beet juice needs to be fresh in order to preserve the enzymes. Therefore the bottled juices will not be as effective, other than for the vitamin and mineral content only. Other than that, there's really nothing to be afraid of with the MBP. Be sure to eat carrots and apples immediately after drinking the juice, and if there is still some nausea, add lemon to the juice.
Some background on me, I have been doing the MBP for about 3 weeks now. I have suffered from chronic fatigue syndrome, candida and heavy metal toxicity for years and I have done almost every diet and supplement with varying degrees of success. The MBP has been a lifesaver for me and seems to preserve my energy very well as well as help me detoxify my body and lose some extra weight. Robert Von Sarbacher must be some kind of nutrition genius because almost all of his recommendations have been right on. I still cannot juice a full beet due to mild nausea and fullness for hours after drinking the juice, but it's getting easier and I'm feeling a ton better.
Good luck and let us know how you like it!
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First, my history: I have always eaten healthily. I was not raised on junk food, and my biggest offenses were a bit of wine, ice cream, and some other things. But my diet has almost always been raw organic plant based, with a little lean fish or poultry thrown in. So, that being said, I suffer from a sluggish metabolism (extremely low rate of bowel movement, if you must know), which my mother suffers from and as do many other women, I hear. Also, I was diagnosed with candida by a naturopath. I have had severe lower back pain for several years though I see I chiropractor, accupuncturist and Asian herbologist. Overall, I am very healthy yet need to lose 30 lbs of weight. Sorry for this, just think it's helpful background.
So I did a 30 day severe yeast cleanse recommended by the naturopath, and never cheated one iota. It did not get rid of the candida as far as I know and I didn't lose 1lb, althugh my boyfriend, who did it with me, lost 15 and is still going strong, though he's no longer doing the yeast cleanse. In fact I gained a couple of pounds and my belly swelled up. So thinking I was reacting badly to something (she had us switch to coconut milk, and sheep or goat cheese, for example) I stopped the protocol, and after much searching around, adopted the MBP. Again, I followed to the letter for two weeks, while eating some other things, ie cooked spinach with olive oil, which he recomends, and so on. Again, not one pound lost, though I hope it is working with the candida. AS he explains, the beets are like a trojan horse: they lure out the fungi with their sweetness, then whammo--obliteration! Also, for those who have eliminated the apples, Robert says that the beets--apples--carrots combo work in conjunction with each one another.
The beets go in first and do a clean sweep, then the apples get what the beets missed, then the carrots get into the nooks and crannies--or something like that. So the apples are not just for nausea. Also, there is a more recent podcast one the web from 3//2010. Radio One Network, if you do a search yoi will find it. He has a ton of info on there, including HGH, getting rid of gray hair, and some other things. Someone on one of the interviews suggested throwing a lemon in the mix in order to keep the beets down--and after experiencing one minor bought of nasuea (i had gone up to a cup of beets after one week of 1/4 at that point) I started adding 1/2 lemon to the juicer and no more nasuea. I have maintained a cup of beets plus asparagus a day now followed by 1 1/2 apples for about 2-3 weeks.
As for my constitution--the beets work wonders. Never has anything worked as well as this.
My belly still is swollen, though. I am off dairy and wheat completely except for the occaisonal hi-quality yogurt. So, the beets and asparagus are ideally drunk 3 or more times a day if I understand Robert correctly. But I can only manage 1-2 times. I'm going to go down to tue-wed-thu, which Robert suggests is ideal for the rest of your life. We'll see. Incidentally, I've done an exhaustive search on the internet and can find no other information on Robert Von Sarbacher than what's been mentioned here. He seems to be in the finance industry, and obsessed with anti-aging (he used to drink four cups of carrot juice every day in college) began using himself as a guinea pig. That and prayer, he says, led him to the beet protocol.
Obviously, he spent some time in Mexico working on ridding people of flouride poisoning. I'm interested to hear if anyone knows anything more. I'll try to update with my progress. If anyone can address my swollen belly and lack of wieght loss I would be grateful. My naturopath says it may take years of experimentation to find out what works and what doesn't. I hope to circumvent that. Thanks, and good luck!
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10/02/2010
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(Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada)
01/22/2012
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To Groundskeeperpdx, the purpose of the cinnamon on the mini beet protocol (MBP) is to lower your blood sugar level before you ingest lots of sugar in the beet juice. Therefore it defeats the purpose if you add honey to the cinnamon. So take it alone or leave it alone. Taking cinnamon is not a must, it is just better for you during the MBP.
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Raw beet juice is very effective and the liver is taking it very seriously. Only a 1/4 cup at a time is the beneficial amount. Some people even have to work their way up to that amount slowly. Peace
