Broad Benefits
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I thought that I would post my experience about the mini beet protocol. I am going into my 3rd week on the mini beet protocol and I have definitely seen some improvements in my health. The first thing that started about day 2 is great digestion and bowel movements. I had suffered from mild forms of constipation for years and now that has lifted. I feel as though I am gaining confidence in my health again. My eye lashes are much longer, my skin color is no longer as pale and my eyes are whitening up more and more each week. My feet are softer as well. My kidney function has improved and my bladder function has improved as well. I have no desire for junk food at all. My cravings for sweets have disappeared. Even when my husband eats carrot cake right in front of me I have no desire at all to even taste it. My legs do not burn walking up hills anymore.
I will say that eating the apples afterward are starting to taste too sweet for me. While I don't get nausea or headaches as some others do, my detox reaction is that my bones get a little sore if I don't eat enough apples. I also combine the mini beet protocol with green pasteures fermented cod liver oil and a parasite cleanse.
I do the mini beet protocol first thing in the morning and go on about the rest of my day eating normally. I do the MBP at about 6am and am very very hungry about 9:30am. I have lost a little weight, however I feel stronger which is usually not the case when I am detoxing. My first meal today after my MBP was pearl barley salad and a sweek baked potato. My lunch is vegan black bean chilli. My dinner will probably be a green veggie smoothie or some type of smoothie. I chew my food very very thorough especially eating that many apples to avoid lots of gas and bloating. In addition the the MBP I have now started putting the beets in my smoothies. My body feels much more relaxed. I am not very restrictive with my diet the rest of the day because I feel as though I eat clean and healthy and balanced so I feel no need to do any type of very restrictive detoxing at this time. I went on the MBP due to extreme allergies to everything I eat. Now I still sneeze after eating and drinking certain things but no where near it was when I started and now I can sleep through the nite. I also eat local Grass Fed Beef Liver a few times a week and I feel uber strong. This is the only meat that I eat, before this I didn't eat anything. I started eating the Beef Liver to get my iron levels up to be able to start the MBP. My iron was up in 3 days time on the beef liver and I just happened to like how great my body felt after eating it that I just kept eating it.
In love and light to all, Yod
(Eugene, Or)
07/17/2012
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I started doing the mini beet protocol in early May, I did the second protocol. I did it for 2 weeks then took 10 days off as I was out of town and had no access to a juicer. I had no HERX symptoms at that time and had worked up to 3/4 of a cup of beet juice.
On the positive benefits side... What I noticed was a reduction in a feeling of pressure in my bladder and abdomen in general. I needed fewer trips to the bathroom and the stream was longer and had more pressure. Where before it felt like had a cantalope sitting in there, I now feel nothing! That in itself is pretty awesome. Another thing I also noticed and this really surprised me... (because of Robert's claims this one was the one I had the least faith in).... Was I saw a marked reduction in crows feet and fine lines around the eyes.
I came back and started doing it again after a 10 day hiatus. I again started back with the 1/4 cup of beet Juice and began to work back up. I did at this point experience some symptoms... Bad headache and diarrhea. I just laid off it for a few days. Now I am just doing it 2 to 3 times a week. Apples are not yet in season here and they are expensive and "soft". I think I will hit it again everyday when the new crop comes in.
I initially did this as I swim 3 days a week and was concerend about my exposure to chlorine. I cannot comment with any scientific facts supporting the detox of the chlorine but I can say it was worth it for the benefits to my urinary tract alone. And the improved fine lines the icing on the cake.
(Eugene, Or)
07/21/2012
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I wanted to add a bit more to my comment on the mini beet protocol. I also noticed that was less "foggy" I seemed to get more alert. -----Also, today I only had one apple left to eat afterwards, so I added a tablespoon of chia seeds to the last glass of juice. My thoughts on this ran along the lines of the apple is for fiber and chia has lots of fiber. It required a drinking straw with a larger diameter... But they looked like mashed up raspberries so no problem getting it down. (I have problems with green smoothies.... I cannot drink anything that reminds me of pond scum, I have to put them in opaque containers with lids and use a straw! ) This was consumed 5 hours ago and I still feel full and not experiencing a headache.
(Bop, Nz)
07/22/2012
To Suzy from Eugene, Or: Funny you should mention this! I'm on my 3rd day of the MBP and although I've got no celery, I'm using the beets, carrot, asparagus and an apple with a bunch of parsley thrown in. Today I had a very long drive of about 7 hours back home into the night and through driving rain. I noticed about half way how alert I'd been feeling all day and bouncing around getting things done before I left etc and how 'clear' my mind seemed. Sort of not foggy or sluggish like I realise it must have been before. I love the juice and plan to continue it each day. Am only having it once per day, is that enough?
(Eugene, Or)
07/22/2012
To Cat from NZ... Earlier in a post Lisa from Thousand Oaks commented once a day is probably enough. She has much more experience with this protocol than I have. I myself did it twice in one day... But that was just to see if I could do it. Felt great! That said, given the price of organic produce I really can only afford it once a day myself! I have backed off to just 3 times a week until my own apples ripen!
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After a few days I noticed a fog lift from my thinking. I didn't even realize it was there until it was gone. That was such a pleasant surprise, so when the detox started happening just a few days later - I didn't mind at all, knowing it was truly helping me out. Slight headache and a cold was what I got, plus of course the bowel clearing.
After just 3 weeks of the protocol I was cured of Hypothyroidism (got checked by a doctor) and some long-standing skin rashes cleared up.
I also got rid of lots of excess mucus and the thick white coating on my tongue that is said to be caused by candida. The feeling of strength and well-being after drinking the juice is incredible, and the fennel actually makes it taste good. I know the first protocol takes a long time to make and tastes awful to most, but the second one is really easy and tastes a LOT better. This protocol really does help!
Broad Benefits
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This might sound a little bit gross but I have also noticed that just with-in a day of taking the juice, that my bowels are moving better. I have not had very good bowel movements and they tend to appear like little clusters of "rock" formations.... Yesterday evening before retiring for the night, I went to the bathroom and I heard a big PLOP! A "Boulder" fell out!!!! Figure of speech, of course...... Hmmmm.. I'm thinkin'... Must be really plugged up... Both in the Head area, and in the rear!!! Hahaha...... I am beginning to feel the difference already... And, it's only been two days. Looking forward to more Good results.
This protocol is also very filling too. I ate apples and carrots during the day. No cravings. I then ate a nice salad for dinner and am drinking lots of water. I might add that I am going to follow this protocol exactly as directed. To be cont.
(Miami, Fl, Usa)
01/30/2012
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I started with the second protocol with the fennel and also contacted Robert on his email. He then sent me an updated MBP document saying that the fennel version doesn't work that well and advised me to do the first protocol or his other alternative.
I then decided to do the first protocol and have been doing it for the last 4 weeks.
There is no doubt that the fennel version tastes a lot better not to mention that the first protocol is more expensive since the asparagus are more expensive than fennel and not as nearly as juicy so you need a big amount of those. I have decided to do it for about 2 months and was hoping to see an effect but to be honest I haven't seen anything remotely close to what some of the people has written on this site. I strongly believe that I am detoxing by doing that I'm just trying to figure out whether I am doing something wrong so that I don't see those effects or I guess it just depends on the body type, etc.
Anyway, since I haven't gotten any answer to how long I need to do this to be sure that I have detoxed, I've decided to do at least 2 months. Since you have seen such results with the second version, I may switch to it now or after the 2 months I have done the first one. I just wanted to ask you to keep posting in the future so that we're all more informed on how this second protocol is working for you with the time. Thanks a lot and once again I am very happy for you!
JJ
Broad Benefits
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BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
It helped with cellulite, fat around waist and face, energy, and I believe healing /detoxing.
This past October I started again, after having some infected root canals removed. Same source for asparagus and beets. My carrots are local (no pesticides used but fertilized once, because Organic carrots are irradiated at the border) It's been about 5 weeks of the 1 cup beet mbp in the am.
Problem: I'm feeling nauseous right from the ingesting of the cinnamon which continues while downing the juice, and by the time I've eaten the apples and carrot, I have full blown detox symptoms, including a week of stabbing pains in the side of my head! Yet, my sleep is improving, and I sense this powerful detox program is healing my body. I have kidney and liver disease and am noticing stronger kidneys and less pain. I do take one (am) and often a second (pm) coffee enema a day which helps a lot. I've also had 6 ozone injections which has helped the infections. Vitamin C, E, and astaxathan I take daily. My diet is whole foods, gluten and dairy free.
Does anyone have any similar experiences or ideas as to what this could be?
Thanks.
(Tyler, Tx)
12/16/2011
You may be detoxing too quickly. Try easing up on things and doing it every other day or in less amounts. Thanks for the tips, though! I love Earth Clinic. What a great help to mankind!
Broad Benefits
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I took a break now to try green juice for a while but occasionally I have beetroot juice.
I noticed on the beetroot juice that I lost tons of fat in places where I never could lose fat before. Also, people would tell me that I looked great and wondered what I had done to look so healthy.
The coolest thing though. I have done Bikram Yoga about 5 times/week for 3 years.
About a month after I started with the juice my flexibility increased exponentially. I all of a sudden could get into a couple of poses that I simply could not get into before. I then read that beetroot juice has a lot of oxalic acid, which supposedly breaks down calcium deposits in your body. Makes sense to me given my miraculous yoga experienced. I mean, I made years of progress in 4 weeks.
However, the most energy boosting thing I have ever tried is eating 3-4 medium sized beetroots raw first thing in the morning. I don't know what happens but it just gives my an insane rush of energy. Scary actually how powerful that is. But it is really time consuming to chew them down.
(Madison, Wi, Usa)
10/19/2011
Can I just use celery, in place of carrots? I've recently become allergic to raw carrots. I've developed many food allergies in the last few months and I know that my liver was affected by an IV antibiotic I was on. It destroyed my gallbladder, so I had to have that removed. I can't digest fats at all and I just keep putting on weight. I do eat cooked beets a few times a week and love them, so I'm hoping that this works for me. I'm also allergic to coriander (cilantro) and fennel (caraway).
(Wellington, New Zealand)
10/22/2011
(London, Uk)
01/18/2012
Hi Cathrine, sorry for a late reply. I did pure and simple beetroot juice without anything added. I don't know about others but it was OK with me. I also have a friend who did the same thing and it was fine with him as well. I may have experienced some degree of nausea initially but nothing major and I got used to it so I drank it daily without any problems.
Lislcat, I think you can mix with celery. I gave my parents a huge glass of beetroot juice mixed with some pineapple juice. It tastes SO good actually. Also mixing in an apple makes it taste really good. Both my parents drank it without problem.
I have a gut feeling though that it is more powerful to leave it as is, and not mix in any sweet fruits. It just depends on how hard core you want to be.
(Canon City, Colorado)
02/22/2012
★★★★★
Maria De, Just put your beets in a strong blender, add some water and blend. You won't have to spend all that time chewing, just drink it down and get the same benefits!
(Troyes, France)
03/29/2023
I tried oxalic acid yesterday to try to cure myself and now I have upper back pain and kidney pain, I slept really bad last night too. I strongly don't recommend anyone to take oxalic acid to cure any medical condition.
I have taken maybe 4g maximum
Do anyone have any advice for me to remove this upper back pain/kidney pain/feeling of heavy leg after oxalic acid have been taken?
Thanks
Broad Benefits
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As I read the other entries, I see that other people are having problems. On his website, the second protocol calls for specific amounts. I believe it says:
"Separately measured out : 1 cup of beets juiced, 1 cup of fennel juiced, 1 cup of 50/50 carrot/celery.... That's it!!!! Drink down and eat one apple afterward".
Since my first one, I have had not problems. It is so beneficial that it is worth reading my reference site above for additional information to go with both protocols.
In the mean time ... To our health!
Broad Benefits
★★★★★
BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
I followed the directions perfectly and within 5 minutes, got hit with horrible nausea. I felt dizzy like I might pass out. Also had a tingeling sensation in my face and head, like a niacin effect. I kept eating my apples and felt things moving in my stomach and the need to poop. So I ran to the potty, with a trash can in my lap (in case I threw up) and kept eating my apple and doing what I thought was a little bit of poop. When I was finished, I saw that the potty was filled! I didn't even realize that was happening! As soon as I finished pooping, the nasea was gone. It all took less than 10 minutes, but I felt like I had just been hit by a truck! Very powerful stuff!
I decided maybe because I only weigh about 120 lbs I should start with less juice. So the next day I only juiced 1/8th a cup of each juice and had no side effects. Today, day 3, I am almost up to 1/4th cup of each juice (1/2 cup total) and still no problems at all. I am still following the protocol perfectly, just with less juice.
One weird thing happened yesterday. I have one, small age spot on my hand. I noticed a white area of skin beside it and began to lightly scratch it. The skin flaked of easily and began bleeding slightly. Today it is healing back and the age spot is gone!
Will post again when I get up to the the full mini-beet protocol juice amount.
Broad Benefits
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Broad Benefits
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I eat one apple (any kind) and one or two carrots after drinking the juices.
Yesterday morning, the second day on the protocol, I woke up to find my abdomen had noticeably flattened out and a lot of the cellulite I had on there had disappeared. I still have some cellulite, but it is not nearly as much...and this was only the second day.
My lupus (muscle pains) and rheumatoid arthritis have slightly improved, too, with the protocol. Over the past few years, I've lost about 140 lbs, but even when I got up to 600 crunches at the gym, my abdomen just would not budge (the fat and cellulite refused to leave). The mini-beet protocol has helped with that and with other symptoms I have. My fingers turn white or blue (supposedly Raynaud's) whenever I get in the shower or wash my hands (fluoridated water). One month, I stayed at a place with a whole house filter (removes fluoride, chlorine, etc). My fingers STOPPED turning colors and getting so cold.
This mini-beet protocol seems to help with fluoride poisoning, too. My weight loss? It started by using progesterone cream and following a gluten free diet. It's amazing how the carb cravings stopped. I do NOT follow any diet (other than avoiding gluten). I pretty much eat whatever I want. I AVOID diet foods, artificial sweeteners, and processed or "fake" foods. I DO eat fat (NON-hydrogenated coconut oil or extra virgin olive oil, usually) - I think this has helped my skin while losing weight. I don't diet, but I make sure I exercise enough to keep my weight down. My heaviest known weight was 313 lbs. I weighed 174 at the doctor office yesterday. I wear a womens size medium. Resistance training helps a lot, too. BTW - I am type 2 diabetic, also. My blood sugars used to run in the 300's. My last reading was 88. I refused to go on insulin (the fat storing hormone that reportedly CAUSES plaquing of the arteries). I didn't see how taking a FAT STORING hormone like insulin would help me to improve when I was still making some insulin of my own. As for the mini-beet protocol, I'll try to make one or two future posts over the next few months on my progress.
Broad Benefits
★★★★★
We started MBP because I suffered an accident at the doctors office that required plastic surgery! Following, that episode I had a strange rash on my neck and some type of strange bumps on face. I thought perhaps it was an hormonal imbalance, the western medical model doctor suggested birth control pills. I declined. After some research, we decided to try MBP six days a week. After one month I've observed the following: my husband's wrinkle's and crow's feet have decreased dramastically; his hair appears darker to me. his eyes look brighter and whiter. For me my acne and rash are gone; my liver spots are fading; my skin is brighter; my eyes are white and bright; the scar tissues and the swelling from my facial surgery both have decreased rapidly because I can finally see the definition. My surgeon mentioned that following surgery for all the swelling to subside, it might take well over a year, but I'm now seeing a dramatic and rapid healing. It is clearly evident that my face is no longer swollen and is becoming clearly defined! I believe MBP expediated the healing process and decreased scar tissue and the swelling. I will report more information at the two month mark.
(Pdx, Oregon)
12/25/2009
We are now at the two month mark on mini beet program.The first month was easy, we just bought two twenty pound bags of beets and asparagas and began juicing away. The second month took some serious "psyche yourself into it talks." It has been challenging for me in the since that at the two month mark, I now cannot tolerate the smell of the juice and I cannot tolerate the cinnamon. It is unclear if it is an instinctive response, due to this new, powerful and perhaps. overwhelming detoxifying process that the body is undergoing or if it is simply an aversion to the unpleasant smell. I should note that I am hypersensitive. Here are a few observations at the two month mark : a noted decrease in appetite. Robert Von has noted that that MBP is supposed to be a supplemental drink.
We have found that many times we will do the MBP during the lunch hour and skip dinner and/or have a small snack around the dinner hour. If we do MBP during the dinner hour then we just skip dinner or skip breakfast the next day. Some days I will have only one meal with a snack. When I snack I try to eat half of an apple to help cleanse my bloodstream, and assist in the detoxifying process. While on MBP I have suffered from one headache and that was following a holiday party I attended where I ate sugar, white flour and dairy. For the headache, I drank a glass of water, apple cider vinegar with a little bit of baking soda mixed and my headache went away. Following are the noted changes: we are both slim, although we both havelost some weight which is fine. We are sleeping better, my acne problem has vanished (I also washing and rinsing my face with baking soda follwed by splashing apple cider vinegar on my face in a hot shower so that it will penetrate deep down into my pores and I just allow the ACV to air dry on my face) both of our faces are radiating good health. We have also increased are flax seed oil to 2-3 tablespoons a day since we reside where it is fairly cold. Our skin feel silky soft and clear. 95% of my liver spots have faded away and few subborn ones that remain . I am now applying castor oil and a green biotanical gel made from mushrooms which is amazing to eliminate the remaining spots. We both look 10 years younger. My hair stop falling out by the clumps. Our meditation and yoga practice are much better. My sense is that you can feel the changes happening on a deep level within the body, although it might be hard to describe celluar level changes that are happening even if your aware of it.
We did feel some lower back pain maybe for 2-3 days, but nothing major. We were sure to take the supplements that Robert recommends to avoid getting kidney stones. I think it is wise to listen to Robert Vons radio interviews and reading his MBP information before beginning this process.
(Toronto, Canada)
03/14/2010
Hello, I contracted lyme almost 3 years ago. I was not given sufficient antbiotics and developed many further problems in the ensuing years despite additional antibiotics, including heart, eye, weight problems with great fatigue and pain. I have had several bouts with mycoplasma, candida, and ensuing arthritis for years . I healed these issues with a 45 day Master cleanse fast. I have cured the pain and complications of lyme with juice fasting ,also for 45 days . During his time I had a powerful beet detox experience. I made a VERY strong beet heavy juice, and after drinking it I broke out in a horrid red rash all over my chest , under breasts , and up to my neck . I used castor oil packs, bentonite clay and oatmeal, and it subsided after 10 days entirely. I also got better after the 45 days. I had been in unbearable pain and had CFS for 3 months and could not get home to juice and fast, as I collapsed in another city after a period of stress that brought out the lyme.
After feasting on champagnes, fine wines and excellent foods at Xmas this year I gained weight, was agin arthritic, and got ill. I returned home, and have been juicing, using beets often, with greens and apples and carrots . All good, am better, have weight loss, etc . But see wrinkles and lax skin like never before. I am aging too fast now. Saturn is on its' 2nd return now, and I knew that would be an issue, but I am vain, and enjoy my beauty ... I have been a vegetarian, and conscious of foods and supplements since 15 when I started yoga ... and look about 18 years younger than my age. I wish to continue to do so.
My questions are ... did your husband's crow's feet disappear? and what kind of surgery did you undergo ? I am considering a necklift , and also a small lower face lift , and eyes to be done - soon . Is there much swelling ? How long does it take to look and feel normal ?
Did the extreme beet protocol cause an appreciable change in wrinkles and skin tightness and youthfulness , and collagen renewal Thank you,
love and light ,
Shakti
(Pdx, Or)
08/29/2010
Hi Shakti, in answer to your question my husband did use virgin coconut oil as a skin softner and he did the MBP program faithfully! His skin tighten, crows feet disappeared and his hair is darker. I believe you mentioned Saturn return consider a karmic mitigating mantra, very powerful. Saturn is the teacher. I did not have surgery, due to choice. I was at the dermatologist office for a routine visit for acne let's just say... Supposedly a simple routine procedure, that took a turn the doctor is lucky he is still practicing! Anyhow after running to four to five experts and suffering... So on so fourth I required reconstruction surgery. So of course following surgery the swelling was bad and was told that for some it can take over a year maybe two for swelling to go down! MBP expediated my healing tremedously. For skin try Hyaluronic Acid Pills three pills per day 100 mg each of HA along with Vitamin C. This is supposed to assist in reversing the aging process you should see results in two to three months For aging my yoga teacher suggests " continue practicing yoga and non-attachment from the ego and the highest truest form of freedom is automatically cultivated" :)
Detox
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I plan to keep going and I believe going very slowly will be the key. I plan on staying on the 1/4 cup of beet and asparagus for at least 10 days and then I will either do it twice a day or move up to a 1/2 of cup each.( probably will up the dose, because the cleaning up of the juicer is the biggest problem I am having. It is a PAIN! )
Anyone know if you are suppose to juice the green leaves of the beets also? I have been cutting them off and disgarding them. I also read somewhere that beets should be peeled before juicing, I have not been doing this either, I juice peel and all.
I wash my beets and asparagus in a soak of water and Hydrogen Peroxide and rinse real good ( They are not ORGANIC ) I have read you can use a vinegar or grapefruit seed extract liquid mixture in water to clean your veggies. So ROBERT,if you are reading this, please let me know what that VEGGIE WASH is that you use.
I really am shooting for at least a 3 month period of this and maybe four, so slowly I go and hopefully I want have to stop it or have any bad side effects. I will post again after the 10th day.
(Somewhere, Usa)
12/07/2009
Well it is day 10 of the MBP for me. Unfortunately, for me after I posted here on day 3, my right ear began to hurt, my scalp was very sore and my throat became scratchy. I know that Robert says that you should take your time and even doing the protocol 3 days a week, it will help you alot. Also he says even the slightest sore throat and you should stop until youre 100%. Maybe I just had sinus or something, but my blood is probably some of the filthiest around. I have been fast food, white bread, alcohol and junk food the majority of my life. SO SLOWLY, I do this, because I want to be healthy. I have No nausea at all though.
So I started back today as I started feeling better around day 7, but wanted to be 100%. I plan on doing this for a long time to come. So I will be carful, not to make myself sick off of it.
Well Lisa, I have the Jack LaLanne power juicer and it has 6 parts that has to be cleaned, You have to assemble it and dis-assemble it all the way and clean and dry it compleatly. I read about the one you have and it sounds easier to clean up. As for ORGANIC, I wish I had a source near by. But I live in a very small town and it is not a wealthy area, so the Wal-Mart super center here does not carry alot of organics. I have to drive 45 to 60 minutes one way to get to the town that carries organics. I could afford the organics, I just don't like that long drive and gas cost. My beets seem to stay good for a long time, but my Asparagus goes bad ( Soggy slimey ) in just a few days. So I would probably have to make 2 trips a week. If I am down that way, I will pick up the organics.
I am very excited, I just wish I had not had the set back, but I am determined to do this thing and clean myself up.
(Somewhere, Usa)
12/18/2009
Well again, I have not kept up with the total days on the MBP. So I couldn't even begin to tell you what day it is. But anyway, this week starting on Monday I was juicing and got 1/2 cup of beet juice and thought maybe it was a good sign, to up the dosage. So I did 1/2 cup of beet juice for 3 days til Wednesday. No side effects, except expelling what I guess was yeast in a bowel movement. I'll try not to be to gross, but it was liquid yellow and burned like bees stinging and I have had severe itching every since. I did have pinkish urine on day two, but not before or since.
I also am consuming and have been since Monday 1 cup of goji berries. I haven't changed my diet completely yet, but did add in 1 day of turnips, yellow squash, white onion, and broccoli. I recieved my vitamins yesterday and started those as of today, although now I am a bit confused. I read, what I guess is an updated version on Robert's page and I am a bit confused on what exacally I am suppose to suppliment with. He says as long as you are consuming enough carrots, apples and asparagus stones should not be an issue, but then goes on to say people should suppliment with B-6, cod liver oil, magnesium, coral calcium. So any way, I am eating the apples and carrots and I am using asparagus along with the beets, But just to be safe, I am taking cod liver oil, B-6, calcium magnesium with D and Magnesium chloride all in tablet form. The calcium,mag, with D is as follows: Vitamin D 400 IU, Calcium Oyster shell 1000mg and Magnesium Oxide 500 mg. The bottle recommends3 tablets daily and I an taking 2 for now and taking the magnesium chloride 1 a day as it is Magnesium chloride 520 mg and elemental magnesium 62.17 mg. I also have Corral calcium, but I am not taking that, because of the controversy surrounding it. I know Robert recommended Magnesium oil and I might have to change to that. IF YOU ARE READING THIS ROBERT, please let me know about these suppliments as I am confused on them. I am also CHEWING the vitamins as TED has said this gets them better absorb into the body in case of FILLERS.
When I start back, I will resume with the 1/2 cup and will work up slowly as I feel comfortable. On my days OFF, I also drink Organic asparagus extract 5gm which is equal to taking half pound of asparagus, so the box says.
I am not going to brag about anything yet, but I have seen some improvements ( later to be revealed ). I just wish the itching would go away and I hope and pray I don't get kidney stones, when I do feel lower back pain ( only once on second day ) I take 2 ounces of olive oil with 2 ounces of lemon juice.
I guess that covers everything for now, and about my diet. I am really trying to change that for the better, but it is hard to break life long bad habits in a short time. I read an interview with David Wolfe and Mike Adams. In that interview David said it takes some time to adjust and figure out what foods will work for you and to break bad habits. He says know one really knows what they are doing at first, but they figure it out as they practice and experment. Or something to that effect, that might not be exactly what he said, but something like that.
(Somewhere, Usa)
01/10/2010
I am still doing the MBP. Although, I am sticking with half of cup of beets and asparagus juiced at this time. I actually increased my doseage and had a bit of an ill feeling.
It is interesting to me that, my diet is prety much still the same and yet, I believe this protocol is helping with certain issues. I know that it would do better with a complete diet clean up. I do not want to mis lead anyone til I know for sure the effects, but some areas are improving.
Refusing to get burned out or sick off this protocol, I am still going very slow with it, trying to get up enough strength and courage to radically change my diet for the better.
Anyway, I would encourage everyone on here to get these beets into your diet. I do wish Robert would post here.
(Somewhere, Usa)
01/23/2010
Well, it finally happened. HERX, like you would not believe. Last week sometime I was going to move up to 3/4 cup of the beet juiced, well lets just say I glad I stuck with the 1/2 cup. I got sick for about 3 hours of feeling like I had the severe flu. I was scared for the minute as I could not get off the toilet and felt as if I was going to toss my cookies at anytime. Sweating, stomach cramps, chills, diarrhea, and nausea. It felt as if my insides were pulling and stretching. After the diarrhea for about 2 hours, I slowly started to get better and after 3 hours I was mostly back normal.
I decided to give it another go today. The smell of the cinnamon was gagging me, but I managed it down. Being cautious, I went back down to 2/3 cup of the beet juice. Had a hard time getting it down, immediataly followed with an apple. RIGHT THROUGH ME IT WENT! How can something travel through your system that fast. Before I could finish the apple, on the toilet I was, Hour or so of diarrhea and nausea, slowly started to fell normal again.
I did change the beets that I was using, to a chaeper version ( But still organic )just with out the green leaves and I bought my asparagus from a different grocery chain. I almost want to say that maybe the produce was bad, but I truely believe it was HERX reaction.
I have had some improvements in my health and do believe that parasites and yeast have been forced from my body. I will not go into details, but the proof is in the stools.
I will have to clean my diet up and take a break for a while from this. I had began thinking people on here were doing something wrong or going too fast and was getting sick, well I have went as slow as a person can go and now I am very sick, even when I smell ingredients in the protocol. I should have cleaned up my diet while doing this, but I was seeing improvements and thought I was doing fine.
If it were just the diarrhea, I could deal with it, But the nausea I CAN NOT handle. I know that most of you will say that it is part of the detox process and my body is healing getting all the toxins out and I would love to be able to youth over all at some point, but for now I will have to break for a while.
Fountain of Youth
★★★★★
Fungal Sinus Infection
★★★★★
Over the years I had quit consuming all sugars and wheat products, as they were my triggers. Upon starting the mbp, my sinuses actually appeared to get worse, the mucous had changed and was now sticky ( my sinuses would stick together so that breathing through my nose was virtually impossible, and they were itchy like mad ) when I walked my dogs I would make a point if pinching my nose and forcing my sinuses open with air, just to get some oxygen moving in there, this would immediately take the itch away, also there was a horrible bitter taste in my mouth that would dissappear right after I ate an apple, needless to say, I ate a lot of apples.
When I read his protocol, I wondered how he knew how many apples to eat, now I understood, the first 10 days I was eating 13 apples a day and very little else, cuz I was full. On the five days off, my sinus mucous would return to normal ( as in still ever present , but no longer sticky), then on beginning again, the stickiness would return, along with the bad taste, so now I was sure it was the MBP causing this, my kidneys have done a 100 % improvement, and my sinuses are minimally improved , so I jet up the protocol, 10 days on 5 days off, and after about 2 months, my sinuses were considerably improved, the stickiness was usually only the first and second day of the protocol and the bad taste is now at bay with only 4 or 5 apples a day.
Also, I learned to make a gingerbug and had begun drinking gingerbug juice to keep up my probiotic, which also seemed to be helping . During all this time I've been doing sinus rinses with my hydra rinse ( similar to a neti pot). Then I read about a woman who encorporated her probiotic capsules into her sinus rinse, so I started putting a teaspoon of my gingerbug starter into my sinus solution ( living probiotic being better than dormant, or at least that is my thinking).
So once again I am overwhelmed with sticky discharge , and the smell ( like im now smelling the inside of my sinuses )and taste in my mouth are horrible, but after 2 wèeks , I am soo significantly better, the swelling on the roof of my mouth is finally abating after almost 14 years, and , although I wasn't really paying attention to my skin , the very obvious scar on my top lip is barely visible, my crows feet are almost non existent and the skin on my neck is tightened and firmed .
I am 54 and my sinuses have been giving me grief since I was 40, I have always been a fairly healthy eater, that has improved now out of necessity, but my sweet tooth is now gone, after 14 years without sugar, an apple seems almost excessively sweet, and I am physically very active, and very grateful to finally be feeling better!
General Feedback
I am about to start on MBP and was suprised to read about nausea following beet juise drinking. Some years ago when I was started using juices my favourite was a large beetroot drink with a dollop of cream and a few drops of vanilla..nectar from heaven!! I never noticed any nausea. Beetroot is my second favourite vegetable (the 1st is spinach) and I have had to stop buying tins of baby beets because once started I can't stop until the tin is empty (I'm talking a LARGE tin here). Also when I go to OZ I haunt the vege juice bar at Davy Jones in Sydney where I always order a large beetroot and spinach juice. If this kind of beet ingestion should cause nausea then why doesn't it affect me like that? Or does it mean I have a higher requirement for beet juice?? I'd be interested in any comments on this, Cheers
General Feedback
I am rather sure that over the last two days I have either been using too much or too little beet. I have been eating two or three apples and the carrots and doing the cinammon, but the only bad reaction I have got so far is a temporary, mild headache.
(Nashville, Tn)
04/23/2010
I use two beets to make 1/2 cup...so I'm guessing 1 beet for 1/4 cup. The beets are approx 2 to 2 1/2" wide.
(Palo Alto, California, Usa)
04/24/2010
Thanks Bibi. Apparently, according to Von Sarbacher, there is a difference if you use a juicer or Vitamix (as I am doing). Now why this should be the case confuses me. I mean, the only difference is that with a Vitamix, you are getting the fiber and not just the juice. In other words, nothing is being subtracted. You would think that as long as you are getting the beets in you, that the form, juice or entire beet, would not matter.
(Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France)
04/26/2010
It is not right to say that with a juicer you only get the juice. The name seems to indicate that but with a masticating juicer you have the choice to feed the pulp back as many times as you want making it to become very dry meaning that the juice you get can be liquid or with the consistency of a smoothy so much of the fiber are kept in anyway. Most of the time I throw away very little fiber which is as dry as straw. I did a lot of research before I bought my masticating juicer and from all I read, also from a few books I bought I have the idea that they are the best buy although expensive. And they make soups as well. One good thing of my juicer is that it juices absolutely everything without a problem. The fact that all the vitamines and enzymes stay alive for up to 48 hours sounds good to me (not that we wait that long to drink our juices.....). But I guess everybody should do their own research and choose what seems best!
(Oak Park, Il Usa)
02/09/2012