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Thanks for this site! I have been reading and have been taking the theanine serene with relora 2 per day and one magtein, now for about 8 days. I can carry a dinner plate and can touch two fingers of each hand to each other. How long will this last...I have no idea. But over the years I have done hospital stints, done scans, seen numerous neurologists, taken k's of dollars of naturals, took medical drugs I soon quit with side effects, exercise everyday, had years of giving up all caffeine, food coloring, salt, sugar, suggested bad foods, avoided chemicals, withdrew from social gatherings, still losing the abilities of most things I enjoyed. So far I have good results with this and many thanks. Others should do their own research and discussions with their health care provider....my opinions are useless in a professional way.
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1) Theanine Serene, which contains magnesium chelate, GABA, taurine, L-Theanine, Relora, and holy basil extract, and
2) Magtein which is magnesium L-threonate.
He takes one of each every morning and has been tremor free for several months. Hope this information is helpful.
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Two things that come to mind for ET are Thiamine HCL(vitamin B1) and a specific magnesium blend.
B1 was tested by Dr. Costantini in a few clinical cases to good effect and he used high dose injections, but did further unpublished testing that indicated that oral dosing may have benefit similar to the injections. I wrote a little bit about thiamine HCL as an effective inhibitor of the inflammatory cytokine IL-17 here :
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/il-seventeen.html
This is significant because increased IL-17 can cause increased inflammatory chemokine IL-8 and inflammatory cytokine IL-6. Both of these inflammatory mediators are elevated in ET and are positively correlated with tremor, so lowering IL-8 is an important point in ET as mentioned here :
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33345671/
Here is a list of supplements that not only lower IL-8, but also cross the blood brain barrier (BBB) as might be needed for a neurological disorder such as ET.
1. Niacin (B3) as Nicotinic Acid (NA)- The type of Niacin that causes flushing.
2. Carnosine
3. Curcumin
4. L-Theanine- Also Considered to be calming.
5. EGCG- An active component from tea
6. Boswellia Serrata- Sometimes referred to as Frankincense and sometimes found in glucosamine multis for arthritis.
7. Hesperidin- Derived from the white layer below the orange peel of oranges.
8. Fisetin
9. Selenium
10. Baicalin- Sometimes referred to as Skullcap and sometimes found in glucosamine/chondroitin multis for arthritis.
The specific magnesium blend I am thinking of is three types of magnesium that are not only bioavailable, but able to cross the BBB and reduce, IL-8. It has also showed improved sleep benefit in some people. They are presented as one supplement and here is a typical one but there are others:
All of the above are likely to have other health benefits as opposed to side effects of standard prescription meds for ET, such as Propranolol and Primidone. Good luck!
Art
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My name is Marc and I have had essential tremors for about 20 yrs I'm now 46 . It started with my right hand and now recently my left. I cannot write anymore or even hold a glass of water. So yes its very challenging at times. I'm hopeful it find relief with magtein and theanine serene w relora. Been taking 2 capsules of each per day. Been about a week and have seen no improvement yet. My question how long should it take to see a difference? Thanks
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I just saw your post and wanted to chime in. For my husband, it took a few weeks to really notice a lessening of the tremors, and possibly a little longer for them to resolve completely. He also takes Acetyl-L-Carnitine for same. On a side note, I started experiencing some peripheral neuropathy recently and added Alpha Lipoic Acid to my rather extensive (and expensive! ) handful of supplements. Since it is known for its beneficial effects on all things nerve related, he's been taking that too.
My husband had only presented with the symptoms of essential tremor a few months prior to instituting the supplements, so perhaps it takes a bit longer for them to take effect when the condition has existed for a good deal longer? Wishing you all the best.
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I have used both IHerb and Lucky Vitamins to purchase the products you would like to get for your father.
Theanine Serene is by Source Naturals - I buy the one that has the additional ingredient of Relora.
Magtein is the brand name of Now Vitamin's Magnesium L Threonate. There are other brands, this is just the one I normally choose.
Acetyl - L - Carnitine is also a Now Product, although there are many other reputable brands.
Hope that helps.
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I'm just assuming that you are directing your question to me. If so, the answer is - yes. My husband takes the Theanine Serene, Magtein, and Acetyl - L - Carnitine every morning. Still working, thankfully. I think I mentioned that I had started experiencing some symptoms of peripheral neuropathy, and so added Alpha Lipoic Acid to my regimen (also benfotiamine). While reading about the ALA, I noticed that it can also be effective for Essential Tremor, so he is taking that also.
Always wishing you well,
Soazburrolady
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I basically follow Soazburrolady's recommendation as to supplements and dosage. Since I live in the UK, I've tried to find local suppliers regarding the Magnesium L-Threonate and the Acetyl-L-Carnitine. Source Naturals products, the 'Theanine Serene with Relora', where I am, has to be imported by the distributor. I purchase from IHerbs. I am sure there are others. It is best to look around for the best deals on the magnesium and carnitine. 'Now' seems good brand.
One must be aware that improvements will take time. The longer the problem has existed, the longer it will take for the tremors to be managed. I had to break from treatment because of money problems. The tremors came back, and, when I was able to resume, it has taken longer to regain control. The goal, unfortunately and annoyingly, is management of the tremors by continual supplementation. It is best to read up all you can on the individual ingredients of the supplements and, if you are already on any medication, that there are no contraindications between the supplements and your meds. For example Magnesium has a tendency to lower blood pressure. If you are on meds for blood pressure, watch that your pressure doesn't get too low! One must watch these points you know! Relora has been reported by some users as giving them vivid dreams. Depends which sort of dreams. Best thing, as always, be aware and double-check with a pharmacist or your doctor regarding blood pressure or if you are on blood-thinning medication.
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Thank you and I am learning a lot from your posts around the language of these tremors. Your progress is impressive - and 18 days is a blink really in the bigger scheme of things. I looked up "Soazburrolady" and will copy her posts into my notes for future research and study.
A couple of my family have the tremors - milder versions than mine. I only ever found raw celery as a cure for the shaking, but couldn't eat enough to make a dent, so celery juice has helped a bit in the past. However, any stress or conflict and my shaking is uncontrollable. Now that I am retired, life is much easier.
Funny thing, I ordered the two pound container of pharmacy grade magnesium as part of my 'anti candida' protocol and planned to use a little in a bath and the rest ingested. Well, I opened the canister over the path and ended up dropping the whole thing in the water - 2 lbs of magnesium -$20.00 - most expensive bath I ever took - but here is the thing - it was sublime. I soaked until I was totally pruned and had absorbed my twenty buck ten times over - and I felt incredible, renewed and vitalized. I slept wonderfully well for the next few nights and overall, my tremors seemed much less. Mine are in my face and a bit in my hands, but definitely the magnesium is a curative for me.
I very much like your research approach to all the supplements, slow and steady. I have made a list of the ones you mention, and will read up on them and then search for 'best-buys' so I can begin to acquire the ones you suggest. I only began the candida treatment 4 weeks ago, so will probably focus in on the candida protocols before I get too focused on the tremors, however, there seems to be some overlap in the treatment, so will combine where I can. I am amazed at the results so far, and beyond grateful to Earth Clinic website. So much to learn.
So, now, when my finances allow, I will reorder, but it confirms - my body is starved for magnesium. Thank you again for your most generous sharing, it is very heartening to hear your progress and I am creating my learning list for moving forward.
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I have a lot of information for your husband when he is ready, just need to figure out a way to get it to you when that time comes.
Art
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ET is a tough one and generally, it comes down to trial and error to see which supplements might help you. Many supplements that are thought to help often have antianxiety effects that are thought to help reduce tremors.
There are many supplements in this class. GABA, Taurine, Magnesium in highly absorbable forms, L-Theanine, Mucuna, Lecithin, CBD oil, and B vitamins would be some common ones often used for ET and anxiety with varying degrees of success. Another consideration is trying one of the supplement multis of which there are many, but even these are essentially by trial and error and do not have high percentages of good recommendations. The main advantage of these is that you are able to test multiple supplements with one pill.
Here are many that you can consider, but read some of the reviews to get an idea of what benefits people have gotten from them.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=essential+tremor+supplements&ref=nb_sb_noss
There are also prescription meds, but these do not seem to be very effective and have side effects. These fall into the class of drugs known as beta-blockers with Propanol having one of the longest amounts of usage for ET. The improvement rate is said to vary from patient to patient and is only helpful for 50 to 60% of patients and again, to varying degrees.
Lastly, there is Deep Brain Stimulation (DBS) which is very invasive brain surgery to try to stop essential tremors where they implant electrodes in your brain and a battery pack in the general area of the clavicle which is all controlled by a handheld remote. This is generally reserved for the most severe cases.
So as you can see, there is nothing easy about ET. I think that starting with the supplements is best because even though they can have side effects, they are usually not as bad as medications. The good quality absorbable forms of magnesium have other health benefits also.
Art
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I read all of your posts concerning essential tremors and I am very hopeful that this will help me also. I would prefer to just take one of each per day (in the morning) but I read other testimonials on another site and they all seem to be helped by taking it before bedtime to sleep better. Thanks for all you informative posts about how it helps with essential tremor.
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I will order right away, as per your suggestions. I am now 61, desperately trying to control my hand tremors. They have been progressively getting worse since I was 54, inherited from my mom. It is of most importance to me to treat this disorder through alternative health as I am a health care provider, caring for the elderly, mostly who suffer with dementia. I see the side effects of alopathic medicine and don't want any part of that.
Thank you so very much for your insight!
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So sorry to hear of your trials regarding essential tremor. I am very happy to report that indeed, my husband's tremor has not returned even in the slightest, and he continues to take the Magtein, Theanine Serene, and also Acetyl L-carnitine every morning. Just as an aside, he has not noted any side effects (vivid dreams) from the Relora. All the best.
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Just a quick update. The hands, although the strength, pre-tremors, has not returned yet, probably through lack of normal use, the control has mostly returned. I have not tried brush drawing again yet, however, I am able to complete pencil sketches, which is something I have not been able to accomplish in a long while.
All I can say is many, many heartfelt thanks for your posts on the maintenance regimen, which, has paid off, for myself, for the second, and now third time. That seems to be the clincher! Although I am now taking the Acetyl-L-Carnitine as part of a broader multi-supplement, with Arginine, etc, ( Good Guru's Memory and Focus ) with the Theanine Serene with Relora and Magnesium Threonate, the first and latter supplied by British companies, the latter being Phoenix, my initial tryouts with the Source Naturals recommendation were equally successful. Being UK based informed my decision, it being helpful that only one of the supplements be imported. Hopefully I can now continue taking these and nothing else stupid will happen to prevent me taking up my career again!
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So sorry I missed seeing your post any earlier. I can't tell you how pleased I am to hear of your progress. I have been helped so many times by the contributors to Earth Clinic, I have lost count! Someday, I am going to post my personal "Best Of" Earth Clinic. I wish you continued progress and good health. Maybe, someday, you will post some of your art work!
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I think you confused Denise with me?? I am the one that reported to her as having had a spitfire temper. I am old now and under control just by avoiding things that I know can upset me, (i.e., capsules and hidden sources of MSG). My husband still flies off once in awhile but I know he eats things that affect him that way. I don't get upset and argue back anymore. I can stay away from him until he cools down.
Hindsight is 20/20. I was eating a lot of hidden MSG from a variety of sources in addition to whole wheat bread which has been reported directly linked to schizo behavior.
KT
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I will have him read the recommendation and hopefully he will research the supplements recommended.
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Good to hear from you again, especially since it appears you have found the right combination for your tremors. My husband continues to be tremor free, and takes the same supplements I have listed in the past (won't bore everyone by repeating them). The arginine could be problematic for him as he as a history of herpes zoster (shingles), and arginine has been known to exacerbate or even initiate a breakout. Continued good health to you!
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Your post references Magnesium L-Threonate for Essential Tremors
and I would be very interested to learn more. I have had essential tremors for 20 plus years and would be enormously grateful for any suggestions on how to tackle the problem, i.e. specific supplement combinations/dosage/frequency etc.
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Of course, it is best to get as natural as possible. That said, nature has left us with predicaments from our ancient past. We would have to be consuming fruit and vegetables at a continual rate to meet our basic needs for a mammal our size and debates rage as to how we can sustain our individual need for the stuff. It has been labelled humankind's "missing stress molecule". Studies for people with Aspergers, where there are abnormal spikes of amygdala activity, put the need, at least, 8 grams daily. I would say though that most humans undergo more continual, relentless stresses than most creatures alive simply through our type of sentience and the lives we put upon ourselves. Reason why we wear out so often? BTW: Had a bowl of porridge and, quite quickly actually, my tremor went bonkers! Very interesting. Now; to labelling. Look for, I should say, 'Wildcrafted' and 'Organic', preferably the former being included. I think there is 'Good Manufacturing Practice' that you look for in America(?) which could also be your guide. Not sure about 'pure' vitamin c, as it might not be utilised efficaciously to be of the health value we are looking for. I think arguments carry on as to if just ascorbate has all that is necessary for all the repairs required upon it in the body. I think we could all do with a repair manual issued at birth. One day perhaps?
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I am also taking Alpha Lipoic Acid, Magnesium 400mg to 800mg a day. I am Type 2 Diabetic and diagnosed Jan. 2021. Since then, through nutrition and probably the supplements/exercise, I have brought my numbers down into to safe zone (6.0 and lower, as low as 5.4) but I can't have any "remedy" that spikes my blood sugar ;)
Thanks for any help, and I am still hopeful the Bs, ALA, Magnesium will start calming my tremors. Been on all since Jan. 2021.
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It's nice to see another book lover ... I've cut back on many things these past 16 months but not books.
However, you've beat me at 24 books so far this year - respect!
Tessa
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For 69 years old, I am amazingly healthy. I am a Keto gal, and my foods are the healthiest I've ever eaten, every day, with walking, and some body-weight training. I've lost the extra weight I could never get off, good muscle tone, 5'2" at 116 lbs. Lost 4 inches, and down 3 sizes from 9 to a 6. I was up to around 146, then managed to get down to 116 on keto. Losing fat was not at the fore-front of my Keto but to beat T2 Diabetes was my goal. Losing the weight was a bonus, and I eat lots of meat, fats, including saturated, and carbs at about 30 or lower. Mostly green vegies like broccoli, spinach and brussels. I do eat avocados whenever I can find good ones. I also enjoy my dairy products like real, grass fed butter, yogurt, and my fave mozzarella cheese.
So there's a bit of history, and doing keto for 13 months today. But now, the ET is something I want to beat. My head shakes so bad I cannot put any makeup on and somehow manage still apple a little lipstick. Being a woman that always loved a light bit of makeup, I really guess I'm vain, but when I see calm-looking people, I long to have that look. My hands sometimes shake so bad I cannot write, and have a hard time eating without missing my mouth, spilling liquids, and baking/cooking.
I can feel totally confident, and calm in my Spirit, but still be shaking, or, I can get upset and the ET goes so nuts I don't like looking like a spastic.
I have read a lot of EC, but I just wanted to talk, and hope for some helpful replies, maybe some success stories. There used to be an Artist here, I think his name is John from UK, maybe? But the last I read, he was actually able to paint again, but I don't know if I will find him, or his replies, but I'll try today. There are many things I cannot do, so just to let you know ahead of time. I cannot see an acupuncture doc because they are not covered by my insurance, and honestly I will not got to any conventional doctors either, except my MD that gives my my labs every so often for T2 to make sure that keeps going well. My T2 HbA1c's are below 5.8 mgdl's which is even below the pre-diabetic numbers. All because of Keto, and never ever took a Metformin or anything else prescription-wise.
Is anyone out there in cyber-space to help me figure out a plan? I would forever appreciate it :) PS, wonderful, I see you can now add images on EC!! Good to be back!
EC: Hi Denise,
Your post has been added to the thread with John's replies on it, so if he is signed up for email alerts on this thread, he will hopefully see it.
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Have you tried B vitamins and such?
There is one off the top of my head, Triptobel. It includes B vitamin balance and others.
I know someone with the "shakes" and "ticks", no official dx but they take this and aloe vera caps. So, worth researching.
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Oh, I want to wait for the B12 so I can just do one thing at a time to know what's working and what's not, but maybe I'll see a combo of things in your info, replies welcome Art ;)
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Any feedback welcome Art, so appreciate you and the many ways you've helped me on EC :)
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Rhode Island Jim
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If the book you are missing from your homeopathy kit is from Hylands, then call them and they can send you another booklet. I did.
Bless you for wanting to help your friend.
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Please let me know if this is correct. I want to order them and start right away. Thanks for sharing. Cindy
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I am new to post. sorry to ask, I would like to buy Theanine Serene, Magtein and Aceytl-L-Carnitine, can I please know website link?
I tried searching through iHerb but not sure which one to choose. I would like to try for my Dad. Thanks very much.
Soni
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This convinces me they are looking for a Parkinson's type of trembling and are not familiar with ETs at all. They consider it irrelevant because it is not outstandingly evident. Will have to persevere in finding a management regimen that will allow me to follow the career within which, like your husband, I have expertise.
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My stomach seems pretty sensitive to anything but my Low-carb, keto diet. Everything about my health is improving, except the ET. That's a lot of supplements to take, so I will just try one at a time. I do not caffeine, gluten, and I do take 500mg of Mag Citrate a day, for about 13 months now, since I started Keto, and beat my T2 Diabetes. I'm so hoping I might at least improve my ET. That would be a blessing, even to get less shaking :) Denise
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When you reference Vit C - did you read that post about synthetic v natural? Any thoughts? I bought mine at the local health food store, but never knew that they might be synthetic? Where do I get natural and how is it labeled?
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I have been using a few vitamin Bs, but I stopped everything because I just seemed to get tired of trying. I did that for several months, now I want to start some supps again, even though I eat very good.
I have B6, and B1, but I will look at what you listed. Whenever I just tried a B-complex blend, something in it just didn't set right with me. So I bought a bunch of the b's separate. I will start one of those, tomorrow, not at night in case they give me any issues. Again, I am really thankful for your reply. I will get back to you, and anyone else following the thread, after I see how it goes.
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