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Thank you to all the wonderful women who shared this simple, cheap and most importantly EFFECTIVE treatment.
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Lately (for the last month) I've been doing the probiotics inserted a few times a day. Yet, I find that afterwards, I have a very strong discharge - enough to be wet and uncomfortable. It seemed different though, as a mixture of the good and bad bacteria, like the good could be fighting the bad out? Obviously, this isn't anything I want going on at certain times of day, so I only do it 2x a day, not the 3x I read was recommended. My BV lately seems to be a little better, not so much odor and less discharge that looks like before. Yet, definitely not cured. Now I'm going to try this H2O2 douche method, then try a probiotic-insert 2x a day for a week and report back. Because I can't take this either, it's been 10years of constant embarassment!
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Once diluted to 3%, I use that straight. I don't do a 50/50 mix with water. I also took acidophilus, and in one day it cleared up a combo yeast and bv infection. First go. I've never experienced anything like this before. It took about 3 days to heal the damaged tissue on the outside of my vagina, but once the infection was gone (instantly) it started healing, and was better in no time. I can't say enough good things about it. YAY for sure!!!
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You see, my husband and I separated toward the end of 2009 after being married for only 6 yrs. Both of us were so drained and hurt from our broken relationship that we did not see, speak or have any contact for over a year. The day before our actual court date for our divorce he asked me to meet him for coffee. I had been helping my Mother, who came to live with me, through a very harsh battle with cancer lasting over a year. The coffee meeting was his way of showing his concern for her as she was losing that battle rapidly. During the meeting he said he didn't want for us to go through with the next days court appearance. I thought "Oh good, we can postpone this for a while. " I was just so overwhelmed with life at that point. He said, "No, I don't wanna do it at all. " Being the one who initiated the separation, I didn't know what to do. Needless to go any further into my whole life's story, my Mother lost her battle which was the most heart breaking experience in my life. There he was to help me pick up the pieces of my life having left my new business to give my Mother the 24 hr/day care she needed. Considering myself blessed to have had that time to get to know this courageous woman of whom my whole life thought opposite. I had such a resentment with her for not fighting for me after several family members molested me, turning to alcohol and drugs and finally some hefty stints in the "big house" I tried to blame her taking no responsibility for my own actions. I was homeless, sometimes shoeless in the winter, destitute, sick from drugs and booze, wretched and broken I asked for help. It was a horrific lifestyle if you can call it that, having always to be on guard and ultra sensitive to my surroundings so as to combat anything that may come up on me from behind. The hardest part of those years was knowing very deep inside myself that some where some how there was a different plan for me. I didn't belong out there. A feeling inside myself that faintly said "You are worth so much more, why are you doing this to yourself?" A certain 12 step program of action and recovery afforded me the skills and humility asking for help all the way, to turn things around. No more drink, No more drugs, No more prison sentences for illegal activities that supported my habits. For 44 years I truly believed she became almost submissive and had the appearance of an inability to make a choice or decision for herself in the face of crises. Our family life all those years ago I've come to know now as in crises and severely dysfunctional, if I may use such an over expressed word. As I watched this woman become stronger in will and character also did I see her failing body. At any rate, I was in debt, emotional turmoil, and completely overwhelmed. Gallantly approaching came my knight in shining armor.... And girls he has always been that (for the 1st couple of months, that is)for me. Girls, there is no such thing, for sure, of a knight in shining armor. In the end or when he changes back to his true self we end up paying as nothing is free especially a mans devoted attentions. Not that there aren't some good guys out there because there truly are but it takes work on both sides of a relationship. It is unrealistic to have a knight gallop on over to us and pamper and spoil us forever. It wears off and we get real. Or we don't get real and it disintegrates. I did however see some deeply routed changes in his psyche that were absent during our marriage. He had a quietness about him, a peace. Let me tell you this man has always been since I first met him (through a dating agency I might add) lacking anything peaceful. I knew that and other changes were not acts because the act usually wore off after he knew he had my attention again. It was apparent he was working hard to change his angry controlling ways. Suspiciously keeping my eye on him in the event he was simply putting extra time in as a good guy in response of my Mothers passing.
After a couple of months of getting together with our boys for dinners at my house, movies for the boys and him bring them on trips. With my sparkling personality, (LOL) I text-ed him one Saturday morning and told him that I was ready for him to make love to me but that I was offering him only sex (it had been 2yrs since I had any sexual contact!! )and he could take it or leave it but that was my offer. We may have sex and nothing else I said to him and not to even think of asking me for more than that as I had nothing to give him. I mean come on... Do I have some kinda nerve or what. Very Aries of me. He text-ed me back and told me that If I wanted to go over to his house he would take care of me. I practically ran, I mean I actually sprinted, you guys, into my SUV as soon as it turned 6:00pm! Glory, Glory Hallelujah! Ladies, I'm trying to tell you someone could have tossed a grenade in the window of that bedroom and I would not have flinched, for the grenade anyway, for his new style of lovemaking and slick little g-spot moves I did flinch a great deal! Then the dreaded BV's started. We never had a problem before but I am currently menopausal and can get one of these disgusting infections from merely changing toilet paper brands, for the love of Pete!
We have been working on our marriage for almost a year now. We do not live together or see each other every single day. We also do not have sex every time we get together. When we do I always get that smell the very next day and it gets worse and worse. I've pretty much had a steady infection the whole time we have been together again. I tried the soaked tampon in peroxide 2X's for 10 mins and then for a few hours last night and a good douche of 1/2 and 1/2, meaning peroxide and water, that is, in the shower this morning. I still have that smell, even with acidophiles capsules orally. I'm going to try another soaked tampon right now. I hope I didn't bore you with all this but I think I just needed to get it out anonymously.
As a footnote My husband and I live separately in a beach tourist community. We have given each other another chance at a happy life. It's unusual to get that chance especially the evening before a divorce date. There is no threat of homelessness. I have a lovely home. I am well read. I dress nicely (except the fact that anything my crotch touches turns to stink! :/ ) I no longer have to be in combat stance though it pops up sometimes. And most of all I am sober and happy! I say these things not to boast but to share anything is possible and a little bit of stinky pants I can deal with. Thank you all so much for the remedy and the avenue in which to vent!! Peace.
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I have been using Tea tree oil with coconut on a tampon during the day then a yogurt supository after bath. I'm nervous to douche because I don't want to kill off good bacteria. My friend is a microbiologist and explained the yogurt is a great way to get the good bacteria because it colonizes easier that just taking probiotics- so I insert that and also cosume yogurt or Kefir. It appears to be clearing up.
One thing I have read on many forums is that many women appear to be able to "treat" BV but not cure it. So, they get it under control temporarily by killing it off but then it comes back. I expect the trick to this is balancing ph with reintroduction of good bacteria.
I read the swiss study that had good success inserting with vitamin C- capules which I would like to try- but don't know how much to take. Is the Folic Acid consumed or inserted and how much?
http://www.livestrong.com/article/510666-bacterial-vaginosis-vitamin-c/
Thanks for the input
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I then asked her about the peroxide remedy. She explained that before medicines where created to cure this monster, peroxide is what was used. With that being said, I then informed her that was my cure.
She instructed me how to use the peroxide (soak a junior tampon in peroxide and insert for 10 minutes for three days), and if it did not work she still gave me the above prescription using the metronidazole cream.
I have not used the cream and my vagina is back to normal. Thank you ladies!!! I was really feeling like I was alone until I read EACH BV post on this site. May God bless each of you.
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I use 2 Tablespoons of H202 mixed with water and douche twice a day for a week. Here is the TMI part, I douch with plain warm water first to loosen the adherent stuff. Sometimes I even swirl inside with my finger to get it out. Then I mix the 2 T H202 with about half a cup of water, douche it in and then hold it in for a minute. I probably should get a real douch bag, but currently I reuse a disposable one. Since it does not squirt up, I have to go upside down. To make sure its working, I go upside down in either a bridge pose or a modified head or shoulder stand. After about a minute, I drain. (I also rinse the outside off with the diluted H202 mixture. ) I know it sounds crazy, and I'm sure there is an easier way, but it does work, and I am relieved to have found a solution that does not involve trips to the doctor and antibiotics. The BV may recur, but at least their is a cure. Good Luck.
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I have taken both anti-biotics probably 20 times and used the gel. It always comes back. I have a wide array of medical issues including PCOS and IBD and had my gall bladder removed 10 years ago. I have tried everything anyone has ever recommended yogurt, probiotics by mouth/vag, iodine, boric acid, folic acid, omega-3, vitamin D, hibiclens, grapefruit juice, and peroxide douches. I have also tried rephresh gel and caps. (the caps were the worst thing ever with a discharge that looked like charcoal). Everything works temporarily. I will say the peroxide seems to work the best along with the probiotics, but I don't think there is an actual cure.
I am going to start another round of antibiotics and keep doing all the other stuff. At this point I would be happy having all my girl parts removed if it meant I didn't have to worry about this and the smell anymore.
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Anyway, I took one of those baby medicine droppers and measured out 3 tablespoons of HP and put it in a cup disinfected with rubbing alcohol and rinsed with water and I mixed 3 tablespoons of distilled water with the HP. Laid down in the shower and held in it for 3-5 mins. I didn't flush it out with water or anything, I just rinsed the outside like a normal shower afterwards. I did this for 7 whole days. I have a copper IUD I had put in last month and had a checkup on the strings today, so I told my gyn about the whole thing and what I did and she said that's great and she wasn't worried about using HP down there and didn't think it was toxic or dangerous. I had a test to see if I still had bv and it came up negative so this remedy totally worked!! I should add, that on the 5th day, I started using femdophilis capsules orally (2 a day), which is supposed to colonize your vagina with "good bacteria" Looks like it worked.
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I have a question... After douching I see this white cottage cheesy discharge. Is this from the douching and when does this go away? How many days am I to douche using this? I still feel slightly raw and somewhat irritated. How long will this process work. Thanks for your response as it is greatly appreciated.
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Day One
Inserted a a tampon soaked in Hydrogen Peroxide 3% (HP) for 2 hours.
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Douched with Hydrogen Peroxide 3 % after waking up in the morning.
After my morning douche, inserted a tampon with vanilla yogurt, left in for 2 hours then later that evening douched with HP again
On the night of Day Two, my smell and discharge was gone!!!!!! However, I think you may want to try the 50:50 solution(water mixed with HP) when douching with the HP because as of today, my vagina feels a little raw when I have sex, the pain subsides later in my sex session, but in the beginning it feels as if my boyfriend is ripping me apart. Also, HP TIGHTENS your vajayjay, my boyfriend said "babe, you feel so tight" so I guess the only con when using HP full strength is having some soreness for awhile, I hope mine goes away soon.. Any other ladies on here experience soreness after HP cleanse? Please send me your solutions if any.
Thanks Ladies and Good Luck!!! Xoxoxo
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1) douche vs. tampon
The douche method was easier and seemed more effective.
2) There are so many comments to what parts peroxide to water to use. I found as long as you're not at 50:50 or more than you're fine I think it has to do with your body and how bad your bv is but that was my experience.
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Secondly...you MUST take probiotics orally several times per day in the 40 and more billion count. Take them at every meal because you also have bad bacteria in the guts that makes it's way to you're vagina reinfecting you. You must address the bad bacteria in you're guts also - everyone who had had BV and taken anti biotics for it without doing a good round or course of pro biotics has this problem. Do this for at least a month and then eat low fat, low sugar yoghurt at least once a day to keep the bacteria in you're guts friendly.
Thirdly, folic acid is needed by all women at all ages- in times of infection you need larger doses. Take 800mcg twice per day. Also take 1gram Vitamin C and vitamin E along with Selenium and Zinc as well as the B vitamins to BOOST you're immunity and fight the infection. Then after a month of that protocol drop back to one a day multi. Take natural multi's not synthetic.
You may have symptoms of die off when you are using h2o2 vaginally as the vagina absorbs anything you put into it remember - this is why Gynecologist give women estrogen replacement to be inserted in their vagina. If you're really perceptive you will taste the h2o2 in you're mouth after insertion. This means it is circulating in you're body. It will do you no harm though as this is the stuff white blood cells use to kill bad cells in the body such as cancer cells. Expect to get a few rashes! Even the runs... but it will do you more good than antibiotics which kill EVERY type of bacteria in your gut and wreck you're immune system to boot.
It is a real pity that so many people are so dependent upon their GP's and impatient where it comes to natural remedies - they expect the natural remedies to work overnight. Yes... They may give you instant relief almost immediately, but remember that this bacteria (and possibly other bad bacterias) may be deep in the tissue of you're vagina and it takes time for this stuff to work at systemic level in those tissues.
A rash on your face is the least of your problems and is just toxins leaving you're body.
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Hi Ladies,
Thanks for contributing to this thread. It's been of great help to me of late. I'm a 48 yo living in New Zealand. Since my last caesarean section ten years ago I've had constant UTI, Candida & and BV problems. Sometimes I don't think I realised that I had BV as there was no itching or burning as such, and it would only become apparent after beig treated for UTI, then getting anti fingal creams as I was left still with a vaginal itch. On top of this I feel I have systemic candida due to all the antibiotics for UTI's as I get repeated thrush after those, and my GP tried Diflucan one tabs but I think Candida became resistant due to them. It doesn't matter how clean I am, I still get UTI's and I was recently referred for a cystoscopy after seeing a urologist so that is coming up for me in a few weeks time.
I have had these problems since my last caesarean and it was pointed out to me that I had bad adhesions between the uterus and the bladder that had formed after the first caesarean (I've had two). Over the past 2-3 years due to constant use of antibiotics, this has took a toll of my gut, wiping out all the good bacteria, and no matter how I eat I suffer from abdominal distension and blaoting within minutes of eating a meal. I decided to tackle the problem that started all this of late, namely the frequent vaginal infections, and the UTI's. I was referred for a hysteroscopy and laparoscopy at the beginning of the year. The surgeon gave me a light scrape on the inside and then cleaned up the adhesions between bladder and uterus successfully. Post op the gynea said that my lower adominal organs were in good condition for my age and that there was no endometriosis or anything untoward other than those two things that he could rectify. I did have some alleviation of endometrial symptoms that I had had when he did that but still had the recurrent infections.
Recently I had to see my GP for BV as the symptoms were chronic itching on top of discharge, and this followed on from a really bad bladder infection where both legs became full of water retention. I suffered a few injuries in the muscles and tendons just walking around because my legs were so full of water. I started to take D Mannose for this which helped and I was able to stop taking Trimethoprim by taking D Mannose daily - it helped me to avoid infections of the UTI tract. (1 tsp per day of D Mannose powder in 8 oz of water - waited 30 minutes and then drink a larger glass of water to flush out bacteria). Initially I had to do that dose every two hours until I got on top of what was a bad bladder infection and then dropped to 1 TSP per day maintenance which has stopped me from gettinf further UTI's.
However, the most remarkable improvement for me as come in the past two weeks by doing the following:
50|50 of spring water (non chlorinated) with H2O2 - douches using a 10Ml syringe. The syringe is just large enough when fully inserted to fill the vagina. I then empty the contents slowly over a 30 minute period and let it flood up around the sides of the syringe. I then I lay there for 5 minutes with the solution inside and drain out after 5 minutes. (It helps to lie with youre hips on a pillow elevated above you're head and a sheet of plastic covered by a towel on you're bed or something). After draining I then repeat this process again. Then drain and then insert castor oil internally. In the evenings before bed I apply a castor oil pack over my bladder area and apply heat. I leave this on and sleep overnight with the pack on.
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I do not insert pro biotic internally as I had a reaction to this and the solution burned me the first time I used that so I am taking x2 capsules of 40 billion pro biotics with acidophilus at every meal (thats 80 billion per meal and three meals per day making sure that I take it in the AM and PM) and I'm also taking:
800 mcg of folic acid twice daily
My multi Vitamin x2 daily
Vitamin E - 200 iu's twice daily
Vitamin C 1 gram twice daily
Magnesium 500 mg once daily (at bedtime)
I made sure that there was iodine, selenium, b6, b12, in my multi vitamin which I have doubled up on - all of the above has been done to boost my immune system and get on top
of the infections. I will probably drop my Vit E dose just prior to surgery and take it up once again a few days after that. Because I have been anemic for some time I take an iron tablet (scripted) along with one of my folic acid and vit c doses in the day.
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I have also in recent days been squirting the H2O2 solution directly into my urethra and this has been giving me more results in terms of discomfort in THAT AREA. I'm currently waiting for a cystocopy at the end of October as I recently went for a urine flow test and the urologosgist said that my bladder is not emptying fast enough and approx 70 ML's is being left inside the bladder at the end of voiding. I went for pre op checks three days ago and the Doctor did a palp of my abs. She then did a slight thump over my bladder and it felt very tender, and this is where I started to do the packs, because for more or less a day after her doing this I felt very sore, and she had not particularly applied that much pressure. On the second night of doing castor oil packs on top of all the above and squirting H2o2 into my urethra as well as the douches (using the tip of the 10ml syringe to just ease into the urethra), I was lay in bed and felt a slight pop inside my abdomen somewhere deep inside. Almost like a cyst busting. Following this I have had a darkish brown and green discharge (like snot) - sorry for the description but I'm now kind of wondering if I did have a cyst in the urethra or somewhere in and around that area affectting my flow? The discharge was not you're typical BV discharge.
All I can say is:
Instant relief as soon as I inserted the first douche with H2O2!!! You should not be afraid to place this stuff in your vagina. It does NOT sting as I thought it would. The metrodinazol that the Doctor scripted when I went two weeks ago did not work and still left me with a chronic itch deep inside and when I used the douche - symptoms of itching subsided almost immediately! I thought to use castor oil to draw infection from deep in vaginal tissues. It seems ok internally and I had no problem. The only concern had was that it is regular pharmacy Castor Oil and not hexane free so I'm currently trying to track down a supply of hexane free Castor Oil and H2O2 here in NZ. Others may not need to do the castor oil - I only tried this because I knew I had a thickening of the urethra which could be felt inside my vagina by both the urologist and myself on self examination. I did think cyst and knew that Castor Oil had a drawing effect, so used that instictively and I think it has helped. Well I hope so!
I will still be going through with my cystocopy to check for interstitial cystitis, stones and other anomolies to rule that all out (or in as the case may be) and because I've suffered with UTI's all my life. One of my sisters has also had recurrent UTI's and had a urethral stretch two years ago and it cured her completely. So I'm about to have that done if my urethra is found to be narrow. Having had five children, (three by vaginal delivery) the urologist also said there could be a thickening in the urethra due to this and the only way to cure that is the stretch. But other than that I finally feel as if I am getting somewhere. I have also been taking detox baths with H2O2, Epsom Salts and pure Sea Salt over the past two days and I'm feeling heaps better in myself!
I usually get a dose of the runs shortly after taking these baths so I can tell they are working detox wise. LOL. I am so pleased that I have finally found some simple cures that I can use in the future when I have any problems. I was getting so tired of paying to see my GP and being given pharmaceutical drugs that don't work half the time or if they do leave you with yet another symptom.
All I can say is, if you have not tried this method because you were cringing at the thought of using hydrogen peroxide in your tender bits, make the solution up and then dab a little on your tongue and wait a few minutes... You will see that it does NOT burn. Even dab a little on the exterior or you're vagina and leave for a few minutes. You will then feel very confident in inserting a whole 10 ML's of that stuff into you're vaginal. Make sure you use exactly the same mix above (50|50 3% H2O2 and distilled of spring water - no chloride).
Brilliant stuff! My only other comment is you really need to be taking you're pro biotics internally in ALL cases (even if you decided to insert some vaginally) as you NEED to replace the friendly bacteria in you're gut as you will just re infect yourself with bad bacteria from the gut. I have been treating myself for two weeks in the above way and will be continuing this right up to my op and for two weeks following my op. I am doing this douche TWICE a day and no ill effects whatsoever. I continued to do this because of my other problems. I felt that the solution would penetrate vaginal tissues and reach the urethra that way also and other surrounding tissues because the vagina is very absorbent and women can supplement with estrogen this way transdermally. In the last day or so the tenderness over my bladder has subsided.
If you still need convincing that this stuff is better than antibiotics and pharmaceutical creams, then know that the bacteria in your vagina (lactobacillus and acidophilus) make hydrogen peroxide and squirt it on the bad bacteria to keep them from getting out of control. Your white blood cells also secrete this stuff to kill rogue blood cells. So this is a good all rounder if you have been on frequent courses of anti biotics and they have wiped all the good bacteria out of those places. It is a natural push.... The H2O2 will not kill good bacteria at the correct dilution. This is why this treatment works. I did a LOT of research before I put this stuff anywhere near myself and I can say with confidence that if you are persistent with this application twice per day as well as looking after yourself nutritionally and taking very high doses of pro biotics you will be a lot healthier. Even if you're BV comes back the following month, it is nothing to repeat the process for longer. We ALL need folic acid day in and day out... A lot of you are asking "How long do I need to do this for or take folic acid for?" Folic acid is needed indefinately if you have become deficient in such and are not eating the right foods to get enough in you're daily diet. You need this to keep homocysteine levels down and inflammation and to look after you're arteries and you're health anyway. Vitamin E and C along with Selenium will build you're immune system also to prevent future infections from coming back. Make sure that you take the natural vitamins not the synthetic versions. Once you are on top of you're BV then buy a good natural multi vitamin and ensure that it as at least 400 mcg of Folic Acid in to be taken daily.
I learned that the reason we keep getting so many infections back is most definitely because of the diet and vitamin deficiency. Your immune system is not working at its best. Cutting sugar will also help. Also I would like to advise that women look at the research being done into Xylitol (sugar replacement) and building immunity, killing rogue bacteria in the gut and healing tissue lining in the gut. I have done this due to gut disbiosis and feel far better. I'm using Xylitol daily in my drinks instead of sugar and that coupled with the D Mannose is keeping UTI's from even starting in the first place.
Thanks for all you're tips... I'm loving Earth Clinic right now and so happy that I found this place - it isn't all vodoo after all. Lol. I was pretty much able to figure out my own personal routine from your posts and would like to thank you all for that. I also hope that my post will help to give some women the courage to try the H2O2! White Swan
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Every 'homeopathic' remedy has been a disaster for me. It either exploded my symptoms by killing off the good bacteria I needed for fighting it, or it gave me a secondary infection.
Any douche will push out more than only the bad bacteria you were hoping for, and then you're in a horrible cycle of Yeast/BV/Yeast/BV.
Taking Metronidazole by mouth didn't help nearly as much as MetroGel does! They both work, but MetroGel has never let me down!
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ANYWHO, I think that I have actually been having BV for the last 2 or 3 years. I kept asking my mom why I had this crap in my panties but she kept saying that it was just discharge. However, I knew that it couldn't be just a discharge because it had a fishy odor and thick, grayish to yellowish film. So yesterday, I began to look up yeast infections ---for the infinite time---thinking that that's what it was but my symptoms just did not equal those of a yeast infection. I finally came across BV which led me to this website.
I am currently trying the tampon drenched in H202 and water method hoping and praying to God that it works. I don't know how someone like me who isn't having sex and is so young could possible get BV. I will be back later with the results
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I'm also using a Mirena IUD. It's been about a year since I've started using it. Didn't get BV until about a month ago.
So, my advice: best to do the tampon thing probably, or use empty douche bags if you have them? Also a 1:1 water/hydrogen peroxide mix might be more effective, but I would go with a more dilute solution and work up.
