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Borax and Magnesium
I would try mag oil directly on the knee in addition to the oral magnesium and borax.
Art
Multiple Remedies
Thanks for the remedies! I love the Russian poultice recipe with mustard! I once bought a 5 pound container of dry mustard at a health food store. I think the cashier thought I was crazy. But mustard has great medicinal properties. (This I was reminding myself yesterday when I was eating pretzels with mustard. Yum! )
Very good point that the other knee is the same age and is fine, so the old age theory doesn't make sense.
Keep us posted!
~Mama to Many~
Multiple Remedies
Multiple Remedies
Multiple Remedies
I think I know what you are going through!
A crook knee is not pleasant at all. I wonder what your X rays will show? The radiologist will probably tell you that you have some osteoarthritis in the knee (surprise) but most people in their seventies will have that, and, if it is diagnosed as being "early" or "mild", that would not account for the severity of your pain which seems to be quite debilitating and restricting your mobility.
You are doing some great things to try to ameliorate the issue and I have tried most of them myself, especially after having suffered a similar, unexpected flare up five months ago after digging a deep drainage trench on my property. (We have to do most things ourselves out here "Down Under" in the sticks beyond the Black Stump and it takes its toll on body parts! ). I am yet to resort to pulling my own teeth yet though!
I strongly suspect that you MAY have either Tendonitis OR twisted or strained an important LIGAMENT around the knee joint.
This can take up to a year to heal unless we crawl around on all fours.
At this point I would like to refer you to my recent posting on this subject in the joint and knee section of Earth Clinic, so I don't repeat it here. They were kind enough to bestow an "Editor's Choice" on that one so it's rather like being mentioned in the Queen's Birthday Honours List!
In addition to the above (and what you are already doing which is great) I would seriously consider your doing the following: Organic Tea and Coffee if you drink those beverages, a little Hemp Seed Oil internally once a day, more Gelatine and three tablets of "Heal n Soothe" by the Living Well group just prior to retiring BUT one hour after food. Said to contain many of the ingredients you favour and possibly in a better combination for assimilation.
Lastly, and best of all, visit the best Acupuncturist you can find (even if you have to travel some distance to get there). Mine has not "cured" me yet BUT I gained noticeable relief after the first session-have regressed a little bit since - but hope for steady progress from now on. Did some of that "cupping" woodoo and massaged until I winced in pain. (It must be good-right?) She was rather keen on the exercises I mentioned in the (above) posting too and recommended that I continue with them. Well that's my take on your problem and it would be great if you could let us know of your progress. Be staunch and stick with it. As you lot say... "Keep calm and carry on"!
If you are a walker or keen gardener, then I recommend you desist for the next few months. Your knee will be grateful for the resting. Otherwise remain active.
Cheers and all the best,
Michael
Multiple Remedies
Apple Cider Vinegar
★★★★☆
Collagen and Calcium Hydroxyapatite Supplements
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I also take 1 capsule evenings of the calf bone concentrate "calcium hydroxyapatite" because it feeds the bones and teeth and has type 1 collagen which feeds the ligaments and tendons. I will always take it, although I still have a small amount of bending knee pain but it's no worse.
I also think I would have sensitive teeth if I didn't take calcium hydroxyapatite.
Some joints never heal with supplements, but I think the skeletal system still needs feeding and maintenance with these two supplements.
Apple Cider Vinegar and Cayenne Wrap
Check out Mommy2 post about Apple Cider Vinegar Knee Wrap
Posted by Mommy2 (Atlanta, Ga, USA) on 08/25/2009
My husband has been bothered with a nagging knee pain for years now. He knows he needs to have surgery, but keeps putting it off. He had the worst flare up, I've seen him have and we've been married for 12 yrs. The pain was so tremendous he could hardly walk and you could see the pain all over his face. I've been a believer in ACV for years now, but it takes more convincing for him. After he'd fallen asleep, I took a hand towel and saturated it in ACV, wrapped it around his knee and wrapped saran wrap around it to hold in place. He slept with it on all night and could not believe his knee was 99% better when he woke up. That's been about a month ago now and he hasn't had anymore flare ups!!!
Gelatin Powder
A friend uses the Great Lakes brand. I think it fits what you are looking for. You can get in from amazon.
~Mama to Many~
Apple Cider Vinegar and Cayenne Wrap
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Apple Cider Vinegar
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Apple Cider Vinegar Hot Compress for Arthritis – You don't need fancy specialists and expensive drugs to help you deal with your arthritis. A few changes in your habits and some tried-and-true folk remedies can help just as much – at a fraction of the cost.
Try some of these effective arthritis treatments:
Mix 1 quart of hot water with 1 quart of apple cider vinegar. Cover sore areas with a compress made of a cloth soaked with this hot liquid a covered with a heating pad. Continue treatment for 30 minutes and pain should be relieved.
From Weekly World News, December 9, 1997.
LECTURES ON MASSAGE & ELECTRICITY IN THE TREATMENT OF DISEASE 5th Ed. by THOMAS STRETCH DOWSE, M.D. ABD., F.R.C.P. ED., page 404,1903.
In joint pain from sprain, rheumatism or gout, my mode of procedure is very simple, but efficacious; the joint is swathed (wrap in several layers of fabric) in flannels which have been wrung out of hot vinegar and water, and over this is placed a piece of very thin plastic sheet forms the moisture barrier. The poultice is allowed to set for ten minutes; after this the joint must be well extended and flexed some twenty times, and then masséed (massaged). This mode of procedure will be found very advantageous for the knee, shoulder, and elbow joints, but for the wrist and ankle joints the foot and arm bath are very convenient and useful. A joint which is too tender to bear movement or pressure before these applications will be comparatively painless after, and the opportunity should be taken to manipulate them freely. You must clearly understand that I do not advise the application of or massage to a joint in a state of acute inflammation, take the muscles of the forearm, for instance, after Colles' fracture. By massage the arm is restored to use in one third of the time that it would be if left to the ordinary modes of manipulation, and without the patient experiencing a tithe part of the pain.
Iodine
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35 years with bad knee. joint would come off some times. always swollen. applied regular iodine externally three times a day. applied one week on and 4 days off. only the affected part would mildly burn and the knee will feel bug crawling inside the skin. after a week the bad skin looked like war zone. so gave four days break. new skin came after break. started the application again. itch started badly on the knee. applied Tea tree oil over iodine to stop the itch immediately. after 4 weeks knee shape came to look like normal. at this time the effected part squeezed to the size of a quarter. still kept on applying on the affected area and surroundings. pain went away after 3 weeks from the start up of the application. but didn't stop applying. this has been 4 months now. knee is like brand new.
i did switch from regular store available iodine to lugol's iodine after 3 months. started applying iodine to every family member's joint pain and cysts. iodine never failed to cure.
Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda
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Serrapeptase
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Apple Cider Vinegar
Go for it! :)
Comfrey Oil, ACV
Comfrey Oil, ACV
For my RA pain, I'm taking 1/16 tsp of pure powder aspirin (bought at a feed store for horses) and then 1/16 tsp of lysine with 1/8 tsp of chlorophyll and 2000 mg of vit c powder with bioflavonoids in my yogurt. I only take this once in the morning as it lasts me all day as a pain reliever.
I also have h.pylori that I'm dealing with which I take 1 tsp black seed oil 2x's day and 15 drops of oregano 2x's day with black walnut wormwood and clove extract from NOW. I think the oregano is working bc I'm having less burping, gas, and nausea. I'm also drinking cabbage juice. Going to try this for 2 weeks and see how I feel. Next, I will add turpentine and dgl and mastic gum to see if that works. So many Natural remedies out there it's difficult to know what to try.
Thanks for the info.
Arnica
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Multiple Remedies
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my posting on the arthritic pain in my knee. I find your recommendations very sound, helpful, and above all your letter put a smile on my face!
Right, I was a little premature in posting on Earth Clinic the other day, because yesterday I saw my doctor who was able to give me the results of the x ray I'd had, which has helped clarify matters. I do have osteoarthritis, which you thought was almost inevitable for anyone over seventy, but in addition to this fragments of bone have broken loose in my kneecap and need to be removed. As I understand it, it's the fragments that are causing the intensity of pain I'm experiencing. So the next step is an MRI scan, and removal of the fragments.
I shall continue with all the natural remedies I've been taking, gleaned from Earth Clinic contributors, and, like you, I'm not adverse to a bit of voodoo, and may try acupuncture or other alternative therapies if the condition doesn't improve.
Best wishes.
Apple Cider Vinegar and Cayenne Wrap
Please look at the EC link for Borax here :
https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax.html
This page also explains how to use it.
Another advantage to borax aside from its antiarthritic activity, is it's boron content, which helps maintain bone integrity and helps prevent osteopenia/ osteoporosis.
Art
Hydrogen Peroxide
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Apple Cider Vinegar and Olive Oil
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04/09/2006: Skyye : "Within the hour, a mix of ACV & Olive oil applied with cotton wool on the knee, massaged in after about 20 mins and the severe pain is gone. Also took 2 tbsp in a glass of water. No painkillers necessary!!!"
My husband hurt his knee last week, had a shot in the knee, no help. Was scheduled to see Dr again tomorrow. He massaged the mixture into his knee JUST ONCE and got immediate relief. Just used the massage mixture for a second time. Also mixed up 2 tbsp of ACV in water and is drinking that, too. AMAZING!!! Hopefully he won't need the Dr visit tomorrow.
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Gelatin Powder
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take 4 packets of KNOX GELATIN in 8 ozs orange juice every day two packets in am and two packets in pm. Also mixes well in chocolate milk. In 8 - 10 weeks you will see improvement starting. It works. My knees are now perfect and I'm over 70. I still take a packet or two every month. It's very inexpensive insurance.
Gelatin Powder
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Apple Cider Vinegar
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Iodine
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Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda
Apple Cider Vinegar and Cayenne Wrap

WARNING!
Eliminate Aspartame and Artificial Sweeteners
It is nasty, nasty stuff. Using the completely natural extract of stevia for sweetening will get you off any dependence on artifical sweeteners or sugar, for that matter.
Aspartame is unhealthy and will harm your body. The companies that produce it, including NutraSweet, know it is bad for you. They have to hire lawyers to try and suppress the truth from getting out! That alone should give you all the info you need to make a life-affirming choice for yourself or others.
By the way, my editor stood behind me and refused to retract the article or apologize for it. We never heard from those cretins again.
Vitamin C
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Vitamin C
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I am a runner/cross country skier who has virtually stopped these activities due to pain in my right knee.
For 7 years I have tried glucosamine, calcium, MSM, and NSAIDs. I don't like taking NSAIDS. However, the other remedies did not relieve the pain and inflammation. Therefore, I have been tolerating the pain and have discontinued using NSAIDS.
I was very surprised to find that the Vitamin C use correlated with complete pain relief and reduction of inflammation. So I stopped the C for a week and the pain returned. I have resumed the C and the pain is gone again.