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Kidney Stones
Posted by Judy (Michigan) on 09/06/2019
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I started having very painful kidney stones about 10 years ago. I'd have at least one a year and then nothing for awhile, then more stones. I have always been able to pass them, but not without several days of excruciating pain.
After having the last one 3 years ago, I searched the internet for a cure and chanca piedra popped up. I purchased a tincture of chanca and after taking for several days, I passed a large stone without having pain.
Several days later I passed a number of very small ones. I have been using this tincture daily for the last 3 years without having any more kidney stones.
P.S. I do take magnesium and potassium along with other vitamins because of the diuretic effect of Chanca piedra.
Chanca Piedra Plant Identification
Posted by Baldev (Mumbai, Maharashtra, India) on 08/18/2018 184 posts
Could someone look at this and confirm whether it is Chanca Piedra plant?
Thanks Baldev
Where to Buy
Posted by Stacy (Ghana) on 09/26/2017
Chanca piedra grows naturally in Ghana, is a common weed and known locally as stone breaker or "at the back" in English & in Twi it's called Awo ba agu nakyi. You can check with Bill of Philippines posting as he has detailed pictures of Chanca piedra
Arteriosclerosis
Posted by Lilykam (Qld) on 05/17/2015
Arteriosclerosis: I have blocked Iliac and femoral arteries and refuse to have Angioplasty/Stents etc.
I know Stonebreaker (chanca Piedra) dissolves kidney and gallstones and wanted to know if it will also dissolve calcium in arteries.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Andrei (Oklahoma City, Oklahoma) on 05/16/2015
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A family friend recommended Chanca Piedra to my brother as a natural way of removing kidney stones about four years ago. He took it in capsule form as it is more convenient than brewing the plant. Very effective indeed!
Calcium Buildup
Posted by Sue (Fairfax, Va Usa) on 02/15/2013
Thank you so much, Bill. While I rarely consume vegetable oil (I use coconut oil) and am already taking many of the supplements you mention (kelp tablets, Iodoral, magnesium, fish oil, vitamin D, K2 and minerals including boron and silica have been part of my regimen for years), obviously it's not working. What you say about calcium/magnesium proportions makes a lot of sense, as well as the chemical forms. I will try the things you suggest, and I really appreciate your time and thoughts! -- Sue
Gout
Posted by Ong3 (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia) on 10/02/2021
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Chanca piedra is a better remedy for gout. I have tried ACV, tart cherry juice and some others but I find chanca piedra most effective. I mixed a teaspoon of chanca piedra powder in a glass of warm water and drink the mixture. You should feel the pain lessen in a few hours. Twice a day if you are already suffering from gout. The mixture is quite bitter or take chanca piedra in capsule form, without the bitterness.
Gout
Posted by Art (California) on 11/15/2022
Joseph,
If the chanca piedra does not work out for you, I can offer another suggestion with at least one study to support its effective use for gout.
Art
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by HisJewel (United States) on 04/17/2019
Hi again Jill D. I decided to go ahead and look up sided effects of Chanca Piedra. I found out there are two types of Chanca Piedra: Phyllanthus niruri and Phyllanthus amarus.
The first mention Phyilanthus niruri is said to be safe non toxic with few side effects. The second mentioned Phyilanthus and in High doses could be toxic and may be harmful to kidneys.. I tried it out Chanca Piedra about February 2019, the company I ordered from does not say what type of Chanca Piedra it is, it just says organic and says to take 1000mg once a day. Which proved too strong for me.
Hisjewel.
Osteoporosis
Posted by Janie (Magnolia, Texas) on 09/16/2017
Bill, I also have osteoporosis in my right hip and I have been put on Calcium and vitamin D but my blood test show my calcium is normal. My Vitamin D and magnesium were also within normal range. My Dhea, Estradiol, Progesterone and Protein were low. I am taking a supplement which has calcium algae, Boron, Magnesium and Vitamin D along with vitamin k2 and another supplement of 7 Keto DHEA. But I do have calcium deposits noted on my aortic valve which causes a mild stenosis. Would I be able to take the chanca piedra and expect to see this clear up?
Where to Buy: Africa
Posted by Leshan Sakaya (Kenya) on 01/30/2017
How can I access this product in Kenya. chanca Piedra
Where to Buy - Kenya
Posted by Jane (Nairobi) on 11/02/2016
Re: Chanca Piedra - Where can I get this plant in Kenya?
Where to Buy - Kenya
Posted by Rose (Mombasa) on 11/07/2016
Where to buy chanca piedra in mombasa?
Arteriosclerosis
Posted by Kathleen (Virginia) on 01/20/2017
I would prefer Myrrh capsules. I see where people take 2-3 caps 3 times per day. That is too many for me to take. Is it possible to take less? Also is it hard on the stomach?
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by Linda (Dallas, Texas) on 05/01/2015
Chanca Piedra for removing calciums deposits and lowering high blood pressure.
I had ordered some and after taking a dropper full, I became light headed, and had a headache. I also read an article that said after 10 days, blood pressure was not lowered after using chanca Piedra.
Can you give me a location of studies of chanca piedra and testimonies of lowering blood pressure and removing calcium deposits? thanks. Linda
Kidney Stones
Posted by Bernadine (Gloucester, Ma) on 03/31/2015
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Hi, I find chandra piedra works very well for my phosphorus stone problem, but it interferes with my sleep so I have to take a very low dose for short spurts, then after being off try again. It has calmed my renal system totally doing that. Does anyone know if chandra piedra helps get your parathyroids to start producing hormone again?
I have both hyperthyroid and hyperparathyroid issues and then at times I fluctuate to hypo. I also have Hashimotos. With this autoimmunity going on it appears that it and much more get past the brain barrier for me and cause the insonmia. Have tried everything and am working on healing my leaky gut, but I am a thin, fit, woman already with alkaline urine ph, and I don't have the associated gut symptoms. I suspect chemical and or heavy metal toxicity. I take lots of magnesium chloride and don't think it effects my sleep.
Any advice?
Where to Buy - India
Posted by Rintu (Bangalore, India) on 12/17/2014
Please let me know the store location in Bangalore , I am looking for Stone breaker or chanca piedra powder or tablet. Please let me know or suggest to me where can I get this.
Where to Buy - South Africa
Posted by Tebogo (South Africa) on 07/30/2014
Hi, please advise if you have a store in south arica. please provide the address if you have a store in gauteng.
Where to Buy - South Africa
Posted by Lebohang (Johannesburg ) on 09/02/2016
Hi..where can I buy chanca piedra in South Africa?
Where to Buy - South Africa
Posted by Maureen (Free State) on 10/01/2016
Can someone please let me know where to purchase Chanca Piedra online in South Africa. Thank you.
Where to Buy - South Africa
Posted by Bee (New York) on 10/01/2016
I am not sure if you can get this shipped to where you are? Im in the U.S... I order it from a company called sunfoods online.......... maybe you can check with them..
Where to Buy - Canada
Posted by Anicka (Canada) on 06/04/2014
I need chanca piedra liquid 4oz ASAP. do you sell it . how much? How long for shipping? I live in Nelson British Columbia Canada. I went on Amazon.com and cannot be shipped before June 17-25 estimate.....so more that 15 days.
Waiting in pain
Anicka
EC: Anicka, we don't sell chanca piedra. If you google 'chanca piedra canada' you will find sources within Canada who may be able to get it to you quickly. Good luck!
Where to Buy - Canada
Posted by Shawn (Ottawa) on 07/09/2016
Here in Canada you can get from well.ca - they ship very fast. I got mine the next day if you order before 10am EST
Hepatitis B
Posted by Teena (Melbourne, Australia) on 07/23/2018 233 posts
Josephine, I have not used chanca piedra for hbv but would recommend covering and steeping your tea for minimum 20 minutes before you drink. Steeping longer brings out the bitter properties which can only be beneficial for the liver. Best to you.
Hepatitis B
Posted by Michael (New Zealand) on 07/19/2022
Hi Lacusman in Ghana,
Chanca Piedra Tea (Sometimes known as "Stone-Breaker" Tea)
Preparation: Add 4 level teaspoons of Chanca Piedra to 5 cups of boiling water. Reduce the heat and allow it to simmer for between 15 to 20 minutes. When cool, you strain the tea and discard the leaves. This will make 4 cups of tea. Serve hot or cold. Store in a refrigerator in a glass container (with a lid on) for up to a week. This may save you some prep. time.
Chanca Piedra Tea is claimed to support the health of the kidneys, liver, gall bladder, bladder and pancreas. It is also said to promote healthy fat digestion.
For Urgent and Immediate use take one cup of tea 3 - 4 times per day for liver-gall bladder support and 6 - 8 times per day for kidney-bladder support on an EMPTY stomach (important) for up to one month or as directed by your health care professional.
For a Maintenance Dosage you take one cup of tea once or twice daily on an empty stomach for 5 or 6 days per week.
Wishing you well on your recovery journey
Cheers from Down Under
Calcium Buildup
Posted by Sue (Fairfax, Va Usa) on 02/14/2013
Question for Bill: I'm interested in chanca piedra for kidney stones (passed one 2 weeks ago, there are 3 small ones, 1-2mm, in rt. Kidney). But you mention it can remove (excess) calcium from bones, and I have severe osteoporosis... Also, though I am not on blood pressure meds, mine is normally low, about 110/60, with occasional atrial ectopic heartbeats and tachycardia. So I'd be concerned if the herb lowers it further. Do you have any experience with these issues? So very grateful for your thoughts, and all your enormously informative posts!
Calcium Buildup
Posted by Kingq (Chonburi, Thailand) on 01/19/2014
What is the best method and dosage of Chanca Piedra to take for gallstones? Capsule or tea? Capsules are easier for me.
Calcium Buildup
Posted by Jennifer (Toronto, CA) on 03/30/2015
I am wondering if anyone can offer some insight. I have multiple kidney stones ranging from 4-9mm in size, and am pregnant. The only solution I have been offered is pain management with some drugs that I am absolutely terrified to take. I know that chanca piedra can break up stones even this size, but am sceptical to begin taking any as it has no studies about safe quantities during pregnancy. Can anyone offer any information as to whether taking a moderate or low dose is an option?
Kidney Stones
Posted by Diane (New Jersey) on 04/30/2016
Hi Bill,
I have just been diagnosed with a 2.5mm kidney stone which was too dense to respond to laser lithotripsy. I believe my doctor wants to go the kidney surgery route next which would be a nightmare for me! I may be able to put it off for a few months, but I am on borrowed time. I read in your previous posts that "tea" is your preferred method - is this just putting a powder in hot water or letting the leaves soak for a few minutes, then straining? I have also bought the "liquid herbal extract" - is this the water extract you referred to? I need something that works quickly and effectively (you should have seen the look on the doctor's face when I referenced CP). I appreciate any tips you can give me - I am new at this thing. Thanks.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Diane (New Jersey) on 06/09/2016
Hi Bill...It turns out that the kidney stones I have (incl. the 2.5 cm.) are uric acid/calcium. I am continuing on the CP capsules and have added 240 mg/day magnesium (as amino acid chelate) as well as doctor's prescription of potassium citrate (15 meq). The Dr.says I will never dissolve these stones and wants to operate through my back and retrieve them. Will the chanca piedra still work on these types of stones? I will continue the CP regimen for as long as I have to if it means avoiding this surgery. I am also going to start the tea form if it is more potent. Thank you so much.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Diane (New Jersey) on 06/14/2016
Bill, thank you so much for your prompt response -
2 more questions:
Are there any dietary restrictions/limitations during this regimen (dairy, calcium, oxalates, purines)?
Can the tea form of chanca piedra also be taken daily for a longer duration(months)?
Your input is much appreciated - thank you.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 08/09/2017
Abigail, I would stop taking it until the pain stops. Then you might start again but in a much lower dose.
Broad Benefits
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 04/27/2016
Hi Lea...Just use Chanca piedra (CP) on its own for gallstones -- that should easily be enough to dissolve and get rid of them. After all, CP's other nick-name is "Stone Breaker" with a long and highly successful history and reputation for dissolving both kidney stones and gallstones.
Take the Chanca piedra as a tea four times a day if you can (CP is not poisonous). If this is not possible then take 500 mgs capsules three times a day.
Avoid buying any herbs that have added chemicals or are denoted as "chemically standardized". Adding chemicals to the herb ruins the synergicity of all the herb's active natural chemical components and so this form does not work so well. Instead, you should always buy herbs that are either organic or wild-crafted in order to preserve the natural synergicity of the chemicals in the herb. This form always works the best.
It's difficult to say how long it will take to dissolve your stone. In fact, it's probably more correct to say that you probably have many gallstones and not just one stone. I estimate that you will see results within the week and you should feel much better after 3 or 4 weeks on this protocol. I would also cut down on dairy foods for a while -- avoid foods like milk, cheese, yoghurt. Calcium is a formative constituent of gallstones, so you should also avoid calcium rich foods.
Also, taking magnesium citrate -- 250 mgs twice a day with meals -- will also help to both alkalize the cells and it will also help to more properly balance the Calcium in the body.
Also be aware that supplementing CP lowers blood presssure, lowers blood sugar and helps to remove excess calcium from the blood. So if you are currently taking any drugs that do the same thing -- then taking CP might be contraindicated.
Kidney Stones
Posted by leole (valentine, ne) on 01/26/2024
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I have used chanca piedra in capsule form for 5 years and have not had a stone since. They used to occur about one time per year.
Liver Issues
Posted by Art (California) on 01/26/2024 2325 posts
Hi Joyce,
Start at their recommended dose. The dose I use is for kidney stones and that may be too much for your purpose. I am not recommending the dose I use for your purpose, just saying it is what has worked for me for kidney stones. I have not used CP for your health issue, so I don't know the effective dose to use.
Art
Pseudogout (CPPD)
Posted by Tim (Fla) on 08/16/2022
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After having had my knee drained several times - calcium in the meniscus. Pseudo gout, I started taking a chanca piedra tablet 5 days a week. I have not had a flare up since even though I did bruise my meniscus on a recent bikepacking trip - I did not have a flare up where I certainly would have been off to get it drained in the past
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by Katy (NY) on 04/15/2019
Jill, It could possibly be contributing to a cleansing, thus coming out through your skin. I see this often when folks are detoxing from Yeast in the body - you may want to back off the amount you are taking...also drink plenty of water, make sure moving your bowels and consider a probiotic as well.
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by HAROLD (NY) on 02/14/2021
Herb Pharm Chanca Piedra (Phyilanthus niruri ) on Amazon, probably maybe iherb, and Vitacost.
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by Vicki (USA) on 03/06/2020
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I don't know about mentioning brand names on here, but Swanson has the niruri variety. I took a lot of it with no allergy or other symptoms for quite awhile.This has been over 4 yrs. ago. I didn't pass any stones, but noticed cloudy urine the 1st few times I took it. I assumed it was clearing my kidneys & that's what that was. I eventually used up all but one bottle of that great sale order & MOL forgot about it.
BTW, I got Hep B in 1980 & nearly died, then was hospitalized & dosed (not long after an old naturopath saved my life from that & about 4 other concurrent illnesses) by a traditional doctor for bronchitis with an IV antibiotic I TOLD him specifically not to use because it's contraindicated for liver patients. That pretty much finished off my liver. I recently began experiencing bloating of then pain & shrinkage of what has to be my liver. I also have MG & now have CHF & HBP which is killing my kidneys. I am about to scrape up the funds to buy another batch of the niruri & save myself this time.
I used potassium citrate for one of my little dogs with kidney stones & damage from the Sam's melanine contaminated/fortified dog cookies that killed so many pets in the mid 2000s, but I read it can cause potassium problems if not used carefully. Hope this helps someone.
