★★★★★
Eliminating Sulfites
★★★★★
Thanks again Bob.
Eliminating Sulfites
Please look under the “Grover's Disease” section here on Earth Clinic (just click on the title of your message) and you will see people who say that eating cilantro cures Grover's Disease. If you can get some cilantro, try eating a handful for a week, and see if it doesn't help you. Best wishes!
Baby Shampoo, Calamine and Pramoxine Spray
★★★★☆
I found that just washing the area with baby shampoo and leaving it alone helped the most. I had been doing fine and decided to go into a tannining bed. I got a little pink on my upper back. A few days later, I tried to go to bed and I began to itch unbearably on my back. I thought it was my sunburn healing because there were no bumps. I tried cortisone cream and took an antihistamine. It settled a little but I could not lay on my back or wear a shirt. The next day my back was covered in the notorious bumps. As a last hope, I bought a calamine and pramoxine spray. It burned at first but helped tremendously probably because it soaks up moisture in the skin.
Trying cilantro in my smoothies now.
Homeopathy
★★★★★
Yesterday I went to a homeopathic doctor She made up a spray for me. I'm no longer itching in less than 24 hours. I'll continue with it until my skin looks all clear. It's like a miracle. Find a homeopath near you and go. Insurance does not cover but it's well worth the miracle
Chlorella, Supplements, Water, Turmeric +
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
Did the cream the dermatologist gave you have steroids in it? If this is the case, you may be having a reaction to the cortico steroids. Please do not use prednisone or anything with cortico steroids in it. Do a search for ITSAN or Topical Steroid Withdrawal Syndrome. The itsan dot org website has info on this. Cortico steroids ruined my health, and life.
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
Thank you so much for kind your healing information, and recommendations. We are grateful for all of your help, and will be buying Nigella Oil today!
The thing that is so mind boggling about my husband's skin body rash is the fact that he his so “incredibly” healthy.
All blood work is, and always has been EXCELLENT. Same with thyroid, cholesterol, and prostate.
He takes zero (0) prescriptions, and never has, except on a “rare” occasion, and for only short term use.
He has always been an athlete, and presently a golfer. He gets plenty of sunshine (Vit D) by “WALKING” a 18 hole golf course 3 x week, yep, no golf cart. We live on 3 acres, so again, always outdoors, and moving his body.
He is well hydrated
A very positive person
A very Calm-minded person
He is very HAPPY
He eats a WFPB diet (I am a whole food plant based certified health coach). No processed foods, very low, sugar, salt, and oil intake. Minimal wine on occasion, but presently none.
His Dad will be 100 years old in a few months, he is also in excellent health, and has a very sharp mind still. His mom passed at 95 yrs., but extremely healthy til the end - Longevity and good health runs deep in his bloodline.
This awful, body rash just showed up on our doorstep one day, practically overnight. And it appeared AFTER he was given the Pfizer Vaccination. Even though it was a delayed reaction, there are reports of delayed reaction, after receiving the Pitzer Vaccine. And we are both trying really hard to not go there, and that it was possibly the Pfizer Vaccine that ignited this body rash. Especially not ever having, skin rash issues, never!
His stress level is low, and we are happily married (32 years). Both of us are so blessed, and grateful for all that we have, our life, and especially our family.
Again, I appreciate your recommendations, Nigella Oil/book, CBD oil, and I'll keep you posted. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
Thank you for posting, and sharing your story, regarding your personal experience with Grover's Disease diagnosis, as well as the possibility that Covid-19 Pfizer Vaccine, may have caused your Full Body Rash.
Here is an update as of 6/15/21:
My husband has now seen a second dermatologist, and a very good one. She was quite taken aback by the FULL BODY RASH on my husband's body, that she immediately left the patient's room, to bring in a parade of other doctors for a second opinion. The other doctors confirmed it was "not" Grovers Disease, per their personal observation, and they were very matter of fact. She, and the other doctors suggested a second biopsy to confirm the diagnosis, since the first biopsy was sent to a local lab in our town. She preferred a biopsy test from UCSF Lab (California), one of the best in our state/country. The results came back, and it is "not" GD. However, it was very similar to the first biopsy, which is good, that both biopsy tests, were aligned. Just to be clear, the first dermatologist who diagnosed GD, was by observation only. But now, we have both both biopsy tests results, which have been confirmed otherwise.
At the end of our appt., w/the doctor, I asked if she has seen any other patients with a full body rash like this, after taking the Covid-19 Vaccine? She replied, she has seen several patients, since the Covid-19 Vaccine, but only with smaller arm rashes, and nothing like this.
My husband's biopsy report is as follows: Spongiotic dermatitis, and is not fungal. Spongiotic dermatitis, includes Allergic Contact Dermatitis, Drug Eruption, Arthropod, Bite Reaction, and Autoimmune Vesiculobullous Disease (such as Bullous Pemphigoid).
The only two possibilities on this list, is "Allergic Contact Dermatitis" and "Drug Eruption". We don't believe the others relate, due to the description of the rash. Although we haven't a clue what my husband may have come in contact with topically, that could have caused his full body rash per Contact dermatitis. As, he is pretty much, a "creature of habit". Just to be safe, we have changed laundry soap, body soap, shampoos, and even bought new quality sheets. And also washed all of his clothing. His body products are the same that he has always used, and has never had a reaction to any. Which he keeps very simple.
As far as the "Drug Eruption" diagnosis - it does seem to point to the Pfizer Vaccination. As my husband does not take any prescriptions, and only an occasional Aleve, with no side effect ever! Also, after doing my own research, it appears vaccines, and drugs can cause a "Severe Rash". I suggest checking the list of ingredients of Pfizer Vaccine, as we did, which is provided by CDC online.
Also, I want to add one other body contact w/heat, that I neglected to mention in a previous thread, which is an "Electric Blanket". The blanket is turned on, only to pre-heat the bed, prior to bedtime (approx., 20 min before), and is turned off, before actually getting into bed. However, the blanket is still electrically plugged in while sleeping.
Elizabeth, I see you used a heating pad, which triggered my memory of the electric blanket.
The two prescriptions given, to help with his body rash are both Topical Ointments; Clobetasol Propionate, and Triamcinolone.
Of course, my husband is using these meds, out of "pure desperation". As I mentioned before, he never takes prescriptions, so this was a difficult decision for him. The Clobetasol, was to be applied for 2-3 days only. (As it only comes in a small tube, and can not be prescribed again for 30 days, in order for insurance to cover). The 1st medication seemed to be clearing the rash, but when he ran out of it, and then begin using Triamcinolone (per doctors instruction), new bumps appeared, and the rash started spreading. One week later, after seeing this, she gave him a cortisone shot, and instructed continue use of the 2nd medication, until the next follow up appt., which is next week.
Elizabeth, I too wish there was a way to create a safe place for others who may be experiencing the same rash/side effect, and may suspect Covid-19 Vaccination. Earth Clinic is an excellent site for starters, and hopefully others will find this site helpful to share their own story.
Please, anyone experiencing a similar situation, or side effects of a Full Body Rash, after receiving the Covid-19 Pfizer Vaccination, we hope you'll share your story here.
Thank you,
Rita
FYI: Here's a website per our doctor- Assistance, for anyone having side effects from Vaccine, contact, VSafe.
Also, after reporting our health situation/side effects to the CDC, here is their response to my letter, and link for assistance, https://vaers.hhs.gov/ Please see other links below.
Dear Ms F-----,
Thank you for contacting CDC. We are sorry about the symptoms you experienced after the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine.
Hypersensitivity reactions such as rash have been reported following administration of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine outside of clinical trials (see https://www.fda.gov/media/144413/download). Commonly reported side effects after COVID vaccine include tiredness, headache, muscle pain, chills, fever, nausea, and injection site pain, redness, and swelling (see https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect/after.html).
We recommend that you follow-up with your healthcare provider. As policy, CDC does not offer clinical guidance for a specific patient, and recommends questions and decisions regarding the clinical care and management of a patient be discussed with the patient's healthcare provider. Such patient management requires familiarity with a patient's medical history, the ability to physically examine the patient, as well as clinical laboratory testing to obtain a fuller picture of the patient's clinical situation. These factors are beyond CDC's ability to provide, and for those reasons, we recommend you discuss your concerns with your son's healthcare provider.
If you have not already done so, we encourage you to report your symptoms after vaccination to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) or ask your healthcare provider to report it. Reports to VAERS are important to help CDC and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) detect new or unusual adverse events or patterns that could indicate a problem with vaccines. Instructions for reporting are available at https://vaers.hhs.gov/
Sincerely,
CDC Immunization Safety Office staff
Atlanta, GA
Ice
★★★★☆
If you sweat and don't have a shower straightaway you will feel a slight crawling stingy feeling on the skin, this is a warning sign that your skin is going to break out.
I've found that you can exercise and get hot and sweat as much as you want but you must not let the sweat dry on your skin, wash it off as soon as you can.
OTC
★★★★☆
I just found this site a few hours ago and wanted to pass on what is working for me. I haven't read all the posts but I am thankful that this site exists and you all post to try and help each other.
Although I have had intense itching for over 4 months, I only received the results of a biopsy confirming Grovers about a month ago. My dermatologist recommended Gold Bond Relief Lotion with 3% Salicylic Acid. It is an over the counter lotion that works for her other Grovers' patients and it is available at Walmart and Target for under $10. Supposedly other drug stores carry it at a higher price but I have not been able to find it.
The salicylic acid lotion works almost immediately for about 6 hours most of the time. A second application over the first application works, but not nearly as effective as immediately following a shower or bath. (I have read reports that bathing submerged for at least 5 min is best, but a shower works for me.)
A few days ago I tried A&D ointment and that worked great in suppressing the itching the one time that I tried it. Going bare chested without a shirt is also very effective in extending the time duration after applying the Salicylic Acid.
The dermatologist prescribed the antihistamine Hydroxyzine HCL 25mg. Although the direction is for 1 pill, I take 1/2 a pill before bed and I usually sleep through the night without waking up itching. I also have a prescription for 6% Salicylic Acid cream but the cream and lotion have been discontinued (not FDA approved). I tried the 6% gel, but it makes me light headed and since the 3% works I am happy to stay with it.
Good luck .... I hope this helps someone.
Vitamin D
★★★★☆
Grover's Disease Triggers
I have had GD since I turned 42... so for 27 years. I tried a lot of creams recommended by the skin specialists, but they were largely ineffective. Last winter I tried UV treatment at the local hospital. After a few weeks it really helped and right through summer I sat in the sun with just shorts on. The rash almost disappeared and at the end of summer 2017, I could not see it. Then in December I caught the flu and immediately the rash reappeared on my stomach and chest and a bit on my lower back. I always use a cream after showering after my workouts (5 days a week) and the rash has become less visible again. I am thinking of buying a UV lamp to use at home rather than go to the hospital and stand in the UV rays for 5 minutes, 3 times a week. The UV must be UVB Narrow Band TL01. I think it might be better than creams. I also agree with the people on this site, it could be food related - so it is better to find the cause rather than treat the symptoms. It is worth a try.
Diaper Rash Cream
★★★★★
Vitamin A
Water
★★★★★
Drink much more water and keep hydrated the itchy areas until the inner hydration kicks in. I was diagnosed, tried everything and end up with this simple recipe. Now if a papule pops up, "Geez not enough water?" And grab a glass or two or three. Basically until it is gone.
At first, give it a few days and the 15 to 30 minutes. I think we become more susceptible to contaminants, processed food, pills, and they all increase our water (and fruits and veggie) demand.
Diaper Rash Cream
★★★★★
Salt Baths
How about this new Salt-only pool purification, anyone had help swimming in that sort of pool water?
Vitamin A
To continued good health.
Vitamin D3
Blessings, Charity
Grover's Disease Remedies
★★★★★
I've had success with rashes using enzymes and sometimes herbs such as marshmallow root and papaya leaf. The enzyme best suited for therapeutic use are ones such as amylase, protease, lipase, pectinase, cellulose.
That combination helps with pH levels for me. Often I have acidic body issues and if baking soda in water isn't enough I've found the pH balancing can be done with an enzyme/ herb combo. And it doesn't seem to take much of such a formula. You can find pH enzyme formulas at health food stores. I found supplementing with enzymes helps with my"dry eye" problem but seems to help rashes and itching which is the Grover's itching you are having.
My point is this: On itching issues, could there be a base deficiency of enzymes? Not that this would be the cause in all cases. I doubt if itching caused by "ringworm" could be helped by enzymes. But I've just seen the enzyme connect play out enough so that I'm becoming really intrigued at the interplay of enzyme activity overall to proper body functioning.
Another, for instance; when I take my enzyme pill I notice I have less sinus congestion. Could the chronic congestion be related to a metabolic / digestive problem that enzymes help overcome? I use a pH balance product from Enzymedica but am sure other companies make a "pH balance" formula also.
Coconut Oil
Coconut Oil
Kelp Paste, Hot Showers
Eliminating Sulfites
Gluten-Free Diet
★★★★☆
Replace Metal Fillings
★★★★★
Thanks and good luck..
★★★★★
My question is if anyone has zero'd in on an ingestible irritant...?
Cilantro, Vitamin A+
Cilantro, Vitamin A+
Anti-Fungal Remedies
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
★★★★★
Witch Hazel
★★★★★
Witch Hazel stops the itching and fades the rash almost completely. I just put some on a clean cloth and thoroughly wipe the rash down with it, at the first sign of the itching starting back up I use it again.
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
Your doctor can freeze the spots off by using CO2 in the doctor's office. It works.
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
Bill's comment below had iodine in it, I use it daily. Iodine, chloride and fluoride are halides (same shape of molecules) and all go into the iodine ports in the body and only iodine belongs there .Halide - Wikipedia The others cause autoimmune diseases, especially thyroid issues. selenium balances iodine and low selenium causes cancer to grow. You mentioned he was in the spa ....Just an add on.
Grover's Disease Triggered by Vaccine
Sometimes medications weaken the immune system and the chlorine may have filled your husband's bucket. Here are my suggestions:
Use Nigella Sativa oil organic 1/2 tsp to 1 tsp 3x per day, especially right before a meal. It has the properties of immune modulation, but it will also calm an agitated immune system. Nigella Sativa appeared in the bible and is said cure everything, but death itself.
2. If you are in a state that will allow you to buy CBD oil with a 1:1 ratio, you can use a drop twice a day(one before bed). This will also calm an agitated immune system. The steps mentioned above are just to calm the body, but your husband might need to look under draining pathways that might be clogged (kidneys, liver, colon), then use some binders as I bet his body is a toxic bucket filled with all sorts of toxins. The medications he received may have filled his body to his limits. You can read about Nigella Sativa online and a new book that came out last year talks about using this oil (Why Not Desserts? Available in Amazon, the oil is also available in Amazon. Have him avoid for now dairy, eggs, gluten they are hard to digest. The Nigella Sativa is sold at many health food stores and believe me when I say this will take care of his problems within few days. There is a reason that is reference in the bible!
Good luck, Health Coach
Zinc Oxide
1st of all thx for sharing. Like you I'm in my 60's. I was diagnosed with Grover's 10 years ago. It is all over my back and on about 1/3 of my stomach. So back and front of core truck is 95% of where it appears. The other 5 to 10% of I I have isolated spots. Primarily on the high part of my thighs and a few around my belt line. But never ever on or near my privates nor ever on my face or neck. It's appeared but isolated on the collar bone part closest to my neck. But again never on face or privates by me or anyone I've heard comment. So think you're good there. You said forearms however...I have never had it there. So that was the only unique location comment of yours. I have heard everyone fails with what doctor prescriptions of any kind myself included.
I started the cilantro about 10 days ago. I love the taste and the other benefits (see my very recent post in the cilantro section of this forum.) So far no change. I will continue the cilantro routine forever regardless. Two days ago, I started the zinc oxide cream (16% active ingredient--Zinc oxide). It diaper cream. Covers it up nicely but almost is irritating the papules. So the 48 hour result for me is "not" working. I've heard others have miracles. So that's why I tried it. As I said in my other post, I do plan to comment back on here and let you know how it goes. I would hope you'd do the same. They say we have an "orphan" disease. So don't be a stranger. You and everyone's posts are helpful.
Kind regards, Robert from Chicago.
Zinc Oxide
★☆☆☆☆
I will continue to try but no miracle yet for me.
Robert in Chicago.
Vitamin A
Vitamin D
I appreciate everything all of you are suggesting.
Zinc Oxide
Curcumin
★☆☆☆☆
We are now going to try Magnesium, (mentioned by Anna); Reishi + Shiitake mushroom extract (mentioned by Francesco); and Molybdenum (mentioned by Jerry). All worth a try IMHO.
Grover's Disease Triggers
Grover's Disease Triggers
Sorry to hear of your issue. Dr.Lenerd Coldwell is the #1 natural Dr. he has many videos on Youtube. He says to rub Hemp Oil on any skin issues and they will die and never re-appear.
God Bless
Gary
Emu Oil
★★★★☆
Salt Baths
Vitamin A
Vitamin A
Vitamin D3
★★★★★
I am so happy and relieved, it's unbelievable. It makes sense because I don't go out in the sun that much and that D3 is what it's for. It works, it really works and is very inexpensive.
★★★★☆
I started using Tea Tree Oil at night and my husband noticed a difference and it is looking better. The bad thing is Tea Tree Oil smells awful. I do not know what I am going to do if we end up moving to Florida with the job change. The heat and sweating is bad for my skin.
Ice
★★★★★
