With regards to the rash itself, I'm suspicious it's histamine-related since it behaves similar to my eyelid swelling & itching: flares in extremes of hot & cold weather. The Elidel Rx that works for my eyelids doesn't work for the Grover's, nor does Retin-A that I have on hand. I'll be discussing this topic with my dermatologist next visit. The Triamcynolone only keeps the Grover's at bay, at best, as was already discussed.
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I started taking 1000mg vitamin D, claritan, 2 Hydroxine's every 4 hours. Still would not go away. Started hibiclens and oat mill shower wash and then started laying out in the sun an hour a day. (light treatments gave me this idea) Before I wasn't sleeping hardly at all. Now its under control and seems to be going away. I also use cerave lotion twice a day. Hope this helps somebody!
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I have also noticed that staying out of the heat will help. I tried taking an oatmeal bath as recomended by an RN and my legs broke out something awful. It may have been the temp of the hot bath however.
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I immediately noticed an improvement to such an extent that after some months the symptoms and the scars had completely healed. I then experimented by coming off Vitamin D3 in the summer of 2012 but after some weeks the symptoms returned. I then stayed on Vitamin D3 for six or seven months over the winter of 2012/2013 and once again the symptoms disappeared following which I stopped taking Vitamin D3 for approximately eight months with no further symptoms. However, as I write this in February 2014 the symptoms have once again returned and I have therefore re-started the Vitamin D3 which once again has suppressed the symptoms.
The conclusion to my experience is that if not a cure, Vitamin D3 in the dose that I have used is a highly effective way of treating this unpleasant and irritating disease. I hope this works for you.
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Your comment was one of the most recent I could locate on this thread. I was diagnosed about a month or so ago; have been in flare up about 4 months now. I tried the predisone route; no change. I am trying to clean up my diet and use natural products. Nothing is working. I am worse. I am in pain. The burning and itching is taking over my life. Do you have any suggestions? What has worked for you?
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First, I try to avoid wearing layers of clothing, such as sweaters and undershirts. This almost always causes an outbreak. Second, the triamcinolone cream works but I believe it also causes the skin to thin out with repeated use. This is similar to cortisone treatments. The most effective medication was tetracyline for two weeks to get the rash under control. After that, the cream, frequent cool showers and bathing soon after a workout are essential. Avoid hot showers and jacuzzis. Be careful of antibiotics. I rarely use it now, perhaps once a year for two days or so. Risk factors are always present for antibiotics.
Diet is likely a contributor as others have suggested. I will look into this more myself. My wife had a light case of psoriasis which has not returned since she switched to a largely vegetable-based diet and reduced her intake of foods that cause inflammation.
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To help your immediate problem with itching, you could try oatmeal baths or epsom salt baths. You could also put Apple Cider Vinegar (with the mother) in a spray bottle and spray it on. It might sting. Try a small spot first. Or dilute 1:1 with water.
I recently made a lotion that is for anti-itch. It works really well for some tick bites that are not being helped by anything else. Here is the recipe:
Natural Anti-Itch Cream:
1 teaspoon fine sea salt
1 teaspoon baking soda
2 teaspoons bentonite clay
1 tablespoon (approx. ) witch hazel
How to Make:
Mix sea salt, baking soda, and bentonite clay in a small bowl or jar (nothing metal with the bentonite clay). Slowly add witch hazel. Stirring constantly, until it reaches a creamy consistency. Add essential oils if using.
I added a few drops each of: peppermint, lavender, frankincense, tea tree and patchouli essential oils.
Hope you find some relief soon! Let us know what works for you!
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A few more points to include re: Cherry Angiomas, Bromide & Iodine:
CHERRY ANGIOMA CAUSES: additional causes for cherry angiomas:
1. Aspartame poisoning
2. Detoxing too intensely during a halogen/bromide detox protocol which overloads the body's detoxification pathways. Often, symptoms worsen temporarily before they improve.
To minimize/eliminate detox reactions: increase iodine co-factors, zeolite, fluid intake, kidney support; balance the body's pH, add a complete nutritional program (vitamins & minerals).
The best way to minimize bromine/toxic halogen detox reactions is to ensure adequate use of sea salt, Magnesium chloride supplementation and Vitamin C. Sometimes, one needs to take a 48 hour break from iodine supplementation or lower the Iodine dose and slowly work back up to higher dose.
If severe detox reactions: flush the kidneys of toxins do a SALT FLUSH: in addition to the daily intake of 1/2 tsp Celtic sea salt, drink dissolved 1/2 tsp of Celtic sea salt in warm water followed by 12-16 ounces of pure water, repeat this every 45 minutes until copious urination occurs. Repeat each day up to 3 days only to clear detox symptoms. Other salts that can be used: Himalayan Pink Salt, Hawaiian Black Salt, Celtic Gray Salt, ....
Can put a little Lugol's tincture on "Bromine Detox Zits" or cherry angiomas at night and they disappear if caught early.
Some symptoms of the body dumping/detoxing bromine include: increased body odor, cloudy urine, skin eruptions/acne, fatigue, fever, diarrhea, bloat, headache, depression/anxiety, brain fog, muscle aches, .... The odor lasts 1-2 weeks though the cloudy urine may take several months to clear. These detox reactions to iodine occur about 5% of the time.
Some people require up to 2 years of iodine therapy to bring bromide levels down if sodium chloride (sea salt) is not included in the bromine detox program.
IODINE
IODINE FORM TO USE: use a combination of iodine and iodide (i.e., Lugol's = 5% iodine + 10% iodide in water; tincture or capsule). This is important because different endocrine organs & tissues take up different forms of iodine. Example, the breasts and prostate concentrate iodine whereas the thyroid gland and the skin primarily concentrate iodide. Other tissues, including the liver, spleen, kidneys, blood, salivary glands and intestines concentrate either form.
THYROID MEDS - do not take thyroid preparations unless the iodine deficiency has been addressed because it will cause a worse iodine deficiency.
ALLERGY - before using iodine, test for an allergic reaction by doing a skin patch test: apply a small amount of Lugol's to a patch of skin for a reaction (hives, itching, rash). If allergic, take Edgar Cayce's Atomodine tincture, a detoxified form of iodine. Also, most people allergic to iodine are not allergic to iodide.
BROMINE
B intake accelerates iodine deficiency and prevents iodine from binding to its own receptors thus increasing the risk of all thyroid disorders and some cancers since thyroid tissue structure and hormone production requires iodine!
Bromine is a potent inhibitor of thyroid hormone production. And, iodine deficiency accelerates bromide toxicity.
Bromine is considered a potent goitrogen which is a chemical that causes a goiter in the thyroid gland.
Bromine is very slowly eliminated from the body. It binds tightly to the iodine receptors in the body's cells (which are concentrated in the endocrine glands). Also, bromine can bind to the iodine transport cells and damage them! And, the oxidized form of bromide- bromine- is stored in the fat tissues.
Increasing Iodide intake lowers bromide levels in these organs and the SKIN and detoxifies the entire body.
Bromine toxicity (bromism) can be present even with low levels of bromide in the diet.
A low-salt diet exacerbates bromine toxicity.
Bromine toxicity can cause loss of hearing and vegetative lesions on the scalp and face.
More sources of bromine intake:
Carbonated drinks: Mountain Dew, AMP Energy Drink, some Gatorade products, colas, Code Red, Dr. Pepper, HC, Sun Drop, Fanta, Minute Maid Lemonade, Citrus Gatorade, citrus flavored drinks, etc..
Used in computers and automobiles
Used as a preservative in nuts and oils
Used as a fumigant for termites
Medications: Atrovent Inhaler, Atrovent Nasal Spray, Ipratropium Nasal Spray, Pro-Panthine, Pyridostigmine bromide, Spiriva Handihaler, Prozac, Paxil, some meds for bowel and bladder dysfunction, anticonvulsants, some sedatives, plastic products, infant cough syrup, toothpaste and many other prescription drugs.
Sprays on fruits and vegetables.
Cleaners
Potassium Bromate (PB) - PB is still listed as a "safe food additive" by the FDA despite being banned in Europe, the UK, China, Sri Lanka, Nigeria, Peru, Brazil and Canada. The CDC lists bromine in the same class as PB, as a TOXIN. PB is used in most bread products in the US and they may disguise its presence with the label "enriched flour". An FDA's limited survey found high levels of bromate in rolls and buns.
AVOID all toxic halogens (chlorine, florine) especially bromine sources, "it is a toxic element and has no place for ingestion in man", Dr D Brownstein.
Sources:
"Iodine, Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live WIthout It", 3rd edition, David Brownstein, MD
"Healing With Iodine", Dr Mark Sircus
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Also, the antihistamines (Zyrtec and Benadryl), were recommended by his doctor to get rid of the tremendous "itch", and burning sensation of the skin, while awaiting results of a biopsy to come back. Any suggestions for the itching? As of yesterday, he's now applying Boudreaux's Butt Paste (diaper rash ointment), topically, which was recommended on EC- trying this for calming the rash/itching, and "open" to trying something better. Thank you very much, Rita
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I have RA really bad and want to know what you did to heal.
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I've tried all the cortisone creams and they have been useless. I tried Chinese medicine, brewing a prescription of dried herbs and roots from an herbalist who cured my fibroids 20 years ago, but gave up after two months of that. My dermatologist tried antibiotics and Zyrtec, but didn't help. It's progressed from my back to stomach to one leg and two shoulders and forearms. It is really uncomfortable, unsightly, and ruins my quality of life.
My doctor injected me with Dupixent last week and it worked for a day. I'll try another injection in a week. It costs $3300, but my health insurance covers it. Has anyone had Grovers go to their face? Or privates? I'm dreading that. I tried the zinc oxide and that seems to have stopped the itch as of today. Thank you, bloggers who suggested that. And, I made my first cilantro smoothie, which tastes great. I am praying this goes away and never comes back. Has that happened to anyone? Why can't they find a cause and a cure for this awful disease?
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I recently stumbled across an article about an ingredient in Turmeric called Curcumin that seems to help in the treatment of Multiple Myeloma. While researching Curcumin I've found that it has powerful anti-inflammatory properties similar to prednisone, along with powerful antioxidants. I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with using Curcumin in the treatment Grover's disease.
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Dealing with Grovers, also. Going to dermatologist three times a week for the blu light treatment....not sure how effective it is, as I still itch and have the nasty lesions on back, chest and arms.
Could you please provide the recipe for your Cilantro Smoothie? I would very much appreciate!
Many thanks!
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I am interested in trying your Vitamin A dose to heal Grovers. I have had Chronic Grovers for nearly 2 years and would do just about anything to fix it. However, I have read that high doses of preformed (supplemental) Vit A can be toxic and quite dangerous. I would be interested to know how you are doing now and if the process continues to heal and are you now on the daily maintenance dose you stated? Thanks and all the best.
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Take salt baths, I use salt, baking soda, and borax. For small flare ups, I make a sea salt solution until it won't dissolve any more salt and apply directly to the outbreaks. This has rescued me.
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so to add to my concern about my vit a concerns about toxicity, My symptoms which were the worst I have ever had since diagnosis in 2010 have subsided. I took 50,000 in of vit A for exactly 10 days. I then remembered I also took an 8 day course of oil of oregano orally at the same time because my itching/ scratching got so bad I was afraid of infection. Now that my symptoms have subsided.......knock wood.....not sure what helped. Confused. Will wait to see if it comes back and will try one remedy at a time.
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