Grover's Disease: Natural Remedies for Relief

When I saw the dermatologist who finally diagnosed me, I was at the end of my rope. The rash was all over my back, neck, and chest, and speckled on my hips, legs, arms--well, it was pretty much everywhere. It was burning and itching and I just wanted to peel my skin off. When the biopsy came back, I was so happy to have an answer but disheartened to know that there is no real cure. The doctor told me to take 10,000 iu of vitamin A and a vitamin E capsule every day, to keep the rash well hydrated with cetaphil cream, and to see him in 6 weeks.

Initially, this regimen did help a bit, as the itching went away almost instantaneously. However, after the bumps remained so I began to research other treatments and found the boards here at Earth Clinic to be the most helpful. I began taking many supplements in addition to the A and E, including garlic pills, copper, zinc, D, and a probiotic. I also began drinking bentonite clay and eating a lot of cilantro to do a heavy metal cleanse. During the time, I've been off of gluten and alcohol as well. At night, I would break open 3-4 vitamin A capsules and mix them with vitamin E oil I got at the pharmacy, and cover my rash in it. In areas that were prone to sweat, like my chest and neck, I would put a medicated powder that contained zinc.

The rash was improving, but very slowly. I had to stop taking the zinc tablets because I kept throwing them up when they interacted with the copper. My face began to break out terribly, and I realized that I was probably just putting too many supplements in my body, so I decided to strip it down to the bare minimum: A, E, and garlic, along with the clay and cilantro.

The rash was still there, but slowly improving. I discovered by accident that the zinc was the thing that was helping. On Mother's Day, I wanted to wear a dress but my back was covered in red spots, so I decided to try covering it up with a thick makeup I have: Dr. Jart Dis-A-Pore. It covered beautifully and I had the confidence to go out in public without worrying that people were staring at my back and shoulders, even though the texture was still very bumpy. I left it on for a couple of days and when I finally washed it off, I realized that many of the bumps had healed completely. I looked at the ingredients of the makeup, and Zinc Oxide was one them, which got me to thinking...

I went to Costco and bought two double packs of Honest Company's Mineral Sunscreen, which is 19% zinc oxide and have been covering my body in it since Saturday. Today is Tuesday, and I am happy to say that the bumps on my back are pretty much non-existent now and all the others are healing up very quickly. I also added the zinc supplements back into my diet, but am sure to take them on a full stomach with no copper. I have still been taking the clay and cilantro as well, but I really feel like the zinc was the thing that made the biggest difference. The results were dramatic, and practically came overnight.

Again, yes, I have tried many different supplements and therapies, but I honest to God feel zinc is the thing making the most difference. This whole experience has been such a nightmare, I wanted to share my findings here in case I could help one other person avoid the suffering I went through. I'm looking forward to seeing my dermatologist soon and reporting my findings and I can only hope that he takes me seriously enough to help his other patients.

After 2 weeks almost half of my rash was gone, after 30 days the rash was gone. It has been 80ish days, no rash at all. First time in 16 months. No doctor, no article I have read said to try Vit D; they all said B6/B12. I never though I would be thankful for hair loss, but now I am!!

FYI My blood work in 2016 showed my Vit D was in the normal range, low end, but normal. If you are in the normal range, take it any way and get your Vit K checked to ensure that level is good bc if your Vit K is not working correctly your body will not absorb the Vit D.

Low Vit D drives auto immune issues. When I looked at the list of what Vit D deficiency can do to a woman's body, sure men too, I about fell over. I wondered WHY this is not a standard practice for someone who develops Grover's. I tried soo much crap, it really infuriates me that it was this simple. My rash was horrid.

I do not know how to get this information out there, I am going to post it where ever I can.

If it were me, I would stop all the meds that your husband's doc has advised. Both Fluocinonide and Triamcinolon contain fluorine which is a poison that can also cause severe skin problems and thyroid problems(low energy, heart problems, immune problems, digestion problems, intestinal problems etc). Both these drugs are corticosteroids that will also tend to excessively acidify the body. To normalize the bodily damage caused by these two meds, you should take Borax and lugol's iodine or potassium iodide (as SSKI drops) to help heal the thyroid quickly and you should also supplement Borax to help remove the fluorine from your husband's as well. See these EC links for how to use these two remedies:

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/lugols-iodine-treatment-bill-thompson.html

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax.html

Claritin is an anti-allergy medicine that contains chlorine(also a poison). So, little wonder to me that your husband's skin condition became worse when he took all those medicines -- since both chlorine and fluorine(and bromine) are well known poisons that can also cause different forms of dermatitis(because the liver has so much trouble getting rid of these halogens - so they are excreted through the skin, thus causing all the awful skin problems).

Cilantro should be able to remove heavy metals that are possibly used in the vaccine as adjuncts or additives but cilantro will not act to remove the chlorine or fluorine from the body.

Tumeric is also definitely worth using for many things such as improving/protecting the heart and arteries, as an anti-inflammatory, anti-aging, anti-viral, etc. But turmeric does not have the ability to remove chlorine or fluorine from the body.

The best remedy for removing chlorine from the body is Sodium Thiosulfate (https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/sodium_thiosulfate.html). And the best remedy for removing fluorine from the body is to supplement Borax and lugol's iodine (or SSKI). See links above.

I would also advise your husband to regularly alkalize his blood using Ted's alkalizing remedies on a daily basis for at least a month or so to get the blood back to correct pH balance. Use the simple sodium bicarbonate + water remedy which helps to alkalize the blood. Shown here on EC

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/ph.html

...And next time your doctor eagerly prescribes drug meds for you or your husband -- you should always do your own research and go to drugs.com and look up their side-effects. Then use Wikipedia to see if the drug contains any dangerous or poisonous atoms like bromine, chlorine or fluorine(or heavy metal) in its molecule. Then just type " warning" in Google search to get some honest opinions and feedback (not biased FDA opinions or research) from other users on whether that drug is both safe and useful or not.

Here is an update on my husband's health after receiving a misdiagnosis for Grovers Disease.

As it turns out, the diagnosis is Bullous Pemphigoid, which was triggered by the Pfizer Covid Vaccine, which put his immune system into an over reactive state. This has been 100% confirmed by a rare disease doctor at UCSF. I appreciate all the support from everyone who contributed help. We are now onto a new chapter. But in the meanwhile, antibiotics and the many supplements have been helping tremendously. My husband's reports are showing only 25% is left in his body, of this awful bacteria that got into his system per Pfizer vaccine. It has been a tough 9 months, getting NO help from CDC, and having to figure this out ourselves. Thankfully, we have come across some very well advised practitioners, and my husband is now on his way to healing. Thank you all SO much,

The second time they prescribed prednisone and corticosteroid creme and said go to a dermatologist. I did. He said it was Grovers. Did biopsy to confirm. While I waited on the biopsy result I used the corticosteroid creme on my back only for 5 days, once per day. It cleared it right up. I also found this site while I waited. I used cilantro smoothie daily for a couple of weeks which really helped with the itch.

But it is Vitamin A, 48000 IU per day that the dermatologist told me to take that is really clearing it up for good. The dose has to be taken down gradually to about 5000 IU per day after 3 months since Vitamin A is a fat soluble vitamin that the body stores. It is toxic if the mega doses were to be continued.

The dermatologist gave me a refill on the corticosteroid creme, but said not to use it on the breasts and belly because it thins the skin and can create problems because of it. This skin is already thin. Like others who have shared their despair about Grovers, I wonder if my Pfizer vaccinations and 2 boosters may have contributed to this problem showing up. Who knows.

I also was a rabid sunbather for several decades. It could just be my time given the damage I did. I hope this helps someone.

Oh, I am also taking 12 organic chlorella tablets and 2 activated charcoal tablets per day for detoxification. I'm keeping up with the cilantro smoothies a few times a week (1/2 bunch cilantro, 1/2 inch peeled ginger root, handful of spinach, frozen mango chunks, 1/4 avocado, 1 cup water).

God Bless You all.

Some exciting news for anyone unfortunate enough to be suffering from Grover's Disease.

I first noticed evidence of Grover's disease in 2011 with spreading lesions on my torso both back and front. Visits to dermatologists in London and New York including biopsies confirmed that the lesions were caused by Grover's Disease which I was told was incurable. However, I noticed that the symptoms were far less noticeable in the summer months and guessed that lack of Vitamin D may be part of the issue.

In 2012, I started to take 4 x Vitamin D3 (Potency 10ug = 10 micrograms equivalent to 400 IU = 400 International Units) per day. I immediately noticed an improvement to such an extent that after some months the symptoms and the scars had completely healed. I then experimented by coming off Vitamin D3 in the summer of 2012 but after some weeks the symptoms returned, so I took Vitamin D3 for six or seven months over the winter of 2012/2013 and once again the symptoms disappeared following which I stopped taking Vitamin D3 regularly.

As I write this in December 2014 the symptoms are completely under control and whenever the signs reoccur, a short spell on Vitamin D3 supresses them completely. So, my experience suggests that if not a cure, Vitamin D3 in the doses I use is a highly effective way of treating this unpleasant and irritating disease.

I hope it works for you.

About 1 1/2 weeks ago I began taking 48,000 IU of Vitamin A each day. This consisted on two capsules 3 X daily, 8,000 IU each capsule for a total of 48,000 each day. It could be just coincidence, but 10 days later my Grover's Disease is almost 100% gone. I plan on continuing this dosage until I have no signs of the disease then gradually reduce the dosage to a maintenance dosage of 1 Vitamin capsule each day, or 8,000 IU.

I hope this helps as much as I believe it helped me.

I'm going to continue for another week, and then reassess whether I should continue on a decreased dosage of Vitamin A.

Best to All

Nothing my dermatologist or PCP recommended worked. Helpful to reduce or eliminate stress, overheating that produces sweat. If you want to get rid of this insidious systemic condition faster, combine with anti-inflammatory foods (avoid bread/sugar). Stick as much as possible to protein, veggies, and low sugar fruit (Granny Smith apples, blueberries). Be careful of some fruits that often have mold (strawberries). In one week there was a miraculous difference and after two weeks I'm cured!

Jackie

This weekend I noticed that I got worse after drinking red wine; I started searching to see if anyone else had the same problem and I found this site. I can't tell you how happy I am that it validated my findings! Wine and anything else with sulfites are now banished from my diet. I also love the advice on eating Cilantro to help/cure the symptoms. Luckily I LOVE Cilantro so I can't wait to go to the store tonight and buy bunches of Cilantro!

I'm very hopeful and I'll report back in a few day on if this remedy works for me or not ......fingers crossed!

Within several weeks applying baby nappy rash powder and taking a 1000mg tablet of odourless garlic the rash had gone. I thought this strange so stopped taking tabs and using powder for a few days. GROVERS reappeared! Restarted using the powder and taking the tabs and GROVERS went away again!

I do not know if this will work for all suffers but it did work for me, don't know why it works, Zinc Oxide is good for all basic skin problems but how it works on GROVERS I have no idea!

Both treatments do not cause any harmful effects, the woese that cam happen is you develope an allergy to GARLIC!

It has been 4 months sonce the last signs of this terrible disease and I am glad this treatment worked for me!

My story is very similar to yours and I am shocked to see that someone else also believes it was the Pfizer covid vaccine. I got the first dose of Pfizer in January, my 2nd dose on February 2 ( right after I only experienced tiredness, muscle aches, and a slight temperature, but not like some people got after) not until February 7th after using a heating pad on my back. I noticed a rash just below my bra line. Then a few days later it developed on my low back. I wasn't able to get into my dermatologist until March and since I was so young and not a typical patient of Grovers dieases and my GD didn't itch she never even mentioned GD. She diagnosed me with folliculitis right off just by looking at it.

She prescribed doxycycline. And also bleach baths. I hate taking antibiotics. I like to do things naturally. So I tried everything I could natural ( but nothing from this sight since at the time I didn't know I had Grovers) nothing seemed to work. Somedays it would seem it was getting better other days it was worse it was such a frustrating and depressing time. I end up taking an antifungal for 3 days after I was at my wits end to see if it would work before I took an antibiotic. My dermatologist still thinking my Grovers was folliculitis.

In short, the the antifungal only made it somewhat better, but not gone. I ended up taking the antibiotics, but that still wasn't helpful even though my dermatologist said it would clear it right up. It didn't. After being on the antibiotics for a while consulting with my gastro specialist ( to see if there was a link to my rash because of a gut problem which turned out it wasn't) but she suggested I stay on the antibiotics for a while longer to clear up any infection and to take a good probiotic supplement to keep my gut bacteria somewhat healthy while on the probiotic. I ended up going back to the dermatologist and she did a biopsy of my skin condition and it came back Grovers dieases. I was devastated. I thought How in the world did this happen to me especially knowing that there is no cure! And after all this time of trying to treat something else. My dermatologist prescribed a steroid cream which I didn't want to use as long term use on the skin can cause thinning. I continued my research. And found this sight. I have tried a number of things on this sight butt past ( didn't work), still trying supplements suggested here. I have had Grovers for a little over 6 months now. And it does seem to be getting better, but not completely gone. I do occasionally get a red dots here and there with no reason why. I have been using homemade aloe vera (which has seemed to be helping the most) on my skin several times a day and taking supplements because my vitamin D3, zinc, and vitamin A where on the low side as well as my WBC was also low ( probably because of my 27 days on an antibiotic). So I have been adding immune supporting herbals like garlic, probiotics, fermented foods, and oregano on a daily basis. I also started green smoothies again. And on I'm on a strict whole food plantbased diet. I don't eat anything that's not natural. I also purchased some moisture wicking clothes ( not that I sweat, but this has been advised to help). I can't say my Grovers is gone again, but it is better. I feel trapped by the fear it is going to come back even worse though. I check my skin every morning hoping its disappeared completely. I hate that it has held me back from life and I have done so much research and this is the first time anyone else has thought like myself it was due to the Pfizer vaccine!

I have told my dermatologist who waved that idea off real quick as well as the idea that the heating pad I used helped spring on my Grovers even though there is a heat connection. I have since seen another dermatologist who was a little better at hearing me about wanting to be more natural at helping my Grovers and suggested Calendula oil. Its acts as a antinflamatory and has been known to heal and prevent radiation burns for those going thru cancer treatments. I have just started using it and will tell you all if it helps.

But for now I am still testing it. My doctor does believe me that it was the Pfizer vaccine. She is on a nationwide board that hears about reactions to covid vaccine, but hasn't heard of anyone reporting Pfizer as a cause of Grovers. I have tried to report my symptoms to CDC with no luck! I am so frustrated. And there is nothing on the internet about the link. Like I said this is the first post I happened to find someone else that has experienced the same thing.

I feel so helpless at times but have felt better knowing I am not alone in this, with this sight and hearing people's stories has help along with prayer. I hope for our sake with the link of Pfizer vaccine that we have this one occurrence of Grovers disease outbreak and our body will somehow heal/recover and we wont have any reoccurring episodes. I can only hope! I hate that we are the unlucky ones to get Grovers from Pfizer. I wish somehow we could ban together to tell more people about this because I am sure there are more people like us out there, but just don't know what ot is dont have the means to go to a dermatologist, be diagnosed correctly and have someone take them seriously that their Grovers was sparked by the Pfizer vaccine. Please anyone that has received the Pfizer vaccine for covid and has experienced what we have posted your story here for others and hat has helped for you. I know everyone's journey with GD is different and what helps but sometimes what helps one person could help another. And with not much help in the medical world, we have to help out each other.

Thanks for hearing my story. Please post here if you find out any new information as I will too.