Multiple Remedies
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Multiple Remedies
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(Alamo, Calif.)
03/22/2010
I have been in so much pain with FM. Reading your message about feeling poisoned just hit me. I told my doctor that I felt poisoned just the other day. I also eat alot of food in the mirowave that are in plastic. I bought a bottle for water but the rim had some kind of metal and my mouth got sore. I have gotten sick to my stomach drinking bottled water in plastic. Didn't think it was the water until I quit and started drinking out of a glass and felt different. I have tried all the conventional way but still in pain. I am for sure going to make some changes about what is plastic in my life. I am for sure going to change cleaning products. I have muscle spasms in my body as well neck, back, legs, head to toe. Something needs to change and I hope that is it. Thanks for the heads up about the change in your environment.
(Bailey, Colorado)
09/21/2010
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I agreed that plastic is a problem, the EPA is doing studies on how much is bad for a person, may take years. I believe that microwaving anything is bad period. It changes the molecular structure of food making it no longer good for the body. Food tastes different when microwaved for that reason. I threw mine away years ago. I am much improved from diet changes, lack of plastic, no microwave and gentle stretching. I do many different things to help with the pain. A Solitens by Nikken helps, Hot baths with a cup of apple cider vinegar is like a small miracle. Liquid Calcium and Magnesium Malate help with sleepiness and brain fog. Lots of good water is a must. Dehydration increases pain. Acupressure massage therapy and chiropractor help. Natural sleep aids can greatly reduce sleep problems. Because there is no cure a variety of remedies works best. I have many more little things I do but cannot think of them right now.
Multiple Remedies
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Multiple Remedies
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Pain management is excellent, i.e. pacing, so that activity is stopped before the pain increases. (i.e. not continuing doing an activity until the pain increases, which can worsen the pain long term). Then gradually, the actvities can be increases in time etc.
Acupuncture, oesteopathy, energy healing, shamanic healing also help me, but most of these only work fairly short term, and have only worked long term when I did these reguarly e.g. weekly, fortnightly or monthly.
however, the long term benefits may increase if used with the pacing. the shamanic healing, and spirtiual/ energy healing in particular i have yet to try while being able to keep to my pain management program. (I know have a young child!), so I will find out soon (when I finally get enough help again) if these can work long term.
Herbs such as chammomile, scullcap, passionflower can help reduce pain, but only worked for me for a while, before i became tolerant, so just use these sporadically for extra.
Also, meditation/relaxation exercises are wonderful, and can easily be done daily- relaxing the muscles, which reduces pain. (breaking the pain cycle of pain=muscle tension=more pain etc etc)
Also a healthy diet, vegan, sugar free and gluten free, with the more raw foods the better helps so much too.
Tens machine, and acticare help too- as does acupressure, indian head massage etc.
5http helped give me better quality of sleep, which helped too.
I still have had to use mainstream medication, but with this various help, I manage just to only use one mainstream medication (tramadol).
(Seattle, Wa, Usa)
03/26/2010
Hello - I am a 49 Year Old Pre-Menopausal Female with fibromyalgia for the past twenty-something years.
They say people with FMS are usually depressed, and if you treat the depression the FMS will get better. I think if the FMS went away I would be GREAT emotionally. I think the depression is a result of feeling like absolute CR@P all of the time. (My Opinion).
That being said - here are the things I have been using and found helpful (not necessarily for Fibro)
Along with a question at the bottom re: a supplement called D-Ribose.
Thanks if you have read this far. Sorry if you are a fellow sufferer of Fibromyalgia - it truly is a misunderstood and lonely syndrome to have. Nobody really understands what you are going through unless they have suffered with it.
I use: (for past 6 months or longer)
Apple Cidar Vinegar and Baking Soda
2 tablespoons ACV with 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda / 2x - 3x a day - I find it is excellent for heavy menstrual cycles, somewhat good for energy levels - and not so great at helping the muscle pain of fibro (for me anyway).
VCO (Virgin Coconut Oil) 1 tablespoon 3x day.
It doesn't seem to be helping my muscle pain, but it does boost my energy levels - dramatically. I find it "Jacks me up" - I feel like I am on speed or something when I take it.... Sometimes to the point where my heart feels like it is beating out of my chest. (Hey, at least I am not laying around in bed!).
I use VCO on my face and body every morning after showering also. I have noticed a skin tag on my eyelid is almost gone, which is kind of a miracle to me, because I have had it forever. A spider vein on my calf I have been watching has no change at all. Not so sure if it is helping wrinkles, I don't think so. My hair does seem to be a bit thicker, but I could be imagining that.
Vitamins / Minerals:
Magnesium - 400mg at bed - sleep better with it.
I am Not taking supplemental Calcium after reading what Ted said about it and muscle pain - and wondering if this might be a mistake?
Vitamin D 1000 mg & Vitamin C 1000 mg 2x day.
DIM-Plus (25% Diindolylmethane) 100 mg 1x day - DIM is a phyto nutrient that is getting all kinds of good reviews from studies done - "Google" it to learn more about what it does to balance Estrogen levels in women and men).
My QUESTION:
I am wondering if anyone has tried a supplement called D-Ribose for Fibromyalgia? I just started reading about it after seeing something on TV, and it looks very interesting.
I am thinking about trying it, and would really like to hear first hand accounts what others who have used it think of it, and if it really helped their symptoms - how long did it take to start working if it did, and if they are still using it.
ALSO - If you have any suggestions of any kind to make re other things to try for muscle and joint pain - That would be great. I would love to hear them.
Best,
Carla
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)
03/26/2010
Hi Carla,
I'm sorry to hear that you have suffered so much and for so long. I have dealt with lots of physical pain for almost 5 years and through my ongoing journey of trying to find a way to heal myself, I discovered this site. It's been about a year and a half since I've been coming here and have tried many of the remedies that are spoken of. Baking soda, ACV, VCO, oil pulling, H2O2 and each has given me some results. I tried all of them separately to see results they would give. The H2O2 was amazing in that the amount of mucus it rid me of was astounding! Have never been sick since that treatment! (Although I hardly ever get sick anyway) Then, I read about the mini beet protocol back in early Oct. on this site and decided to give it a go. In trying to find more info on it here and all over the net, I came up with nothing. But it led me to amazing juicing sites then onto rawfood sites and then to some of the most amazing people ever! I thought, what do I have to lose? Listening and seeing testimonials from people completely healed from heinous diseases and plagues of all sorts convinced me to give it a go. Within a couple days of juicing my physical pain was gone. I started eating about 90% raw food. Around the holidays it was a bit difficult to maintain that so I backed off some. What that did for me was make me realize just what a huge difference I felt in my body from the combo of juicing and rawfoods. I have lots of posts about the transformation on this site so I hesitate to go on about it. But, I would urge you to learn about detoxing your body. Just yesterday, I posted about an amazing woman that you can google named Donna Gates and learn all about that. Also, listen to Dr. Brian Clement on youtube who is remarkable and has healed thousands through green juice, wheatgrass, sprouts, sea veggies and rawfoods at his institute. I can't afford to go to his place but I can certainly listen to his protocols and implement them into my life. I used to be rendered helpless on the couch all afternoon in pain but that is the past now! Now I have my afternoons back to enjoy.
I really do hope this info helps you. It is a lifestyle change for sure, but one that has been so life-changing for me I will not go back. I continue to eat raw and take no dairy, pasta or bread. I think I've had meat about 6 times in the smallest of quantities since Oct.
I am 53 years young and my period ended 5 years ago with no other symptoms that women report when they go into menopause. I added that because I think it's important to know the place a person is at because our bodies are different at different ages and stages of our life.
I wish you the best in finding your wholeness once again. Lisa
(New York, New York)
03/29/2010
Hi Lisa, I always read your postings with interest. I have also tried many of the same remedies, with great success. I usually suffer with spring hay fever and would like to purchase food grade h202 and see if it helps. For some reason, I am very much afraid to try it. I'm wondering if you are still using this protocol - and would greatly appreciate it if you could share your method of using it. If EC feels that this is too personal a request, I would love it if you could just email me. Thank you so much. Lee
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)
03/29/2010
Hi Lee,
I just wanted to let you know that I did not use food grade but just went to the local store, Fresh and Easy and bought a bottle. Both my husband and I did it but each differently. He did it the spray method but I just took a q-tip and swabbed it way up in my nose. Now, I'm not telling you to use this method, I'm just telling you what I did and the results were amazing. My oldest daughter, age 23 was having a lot of trouble with her sinuses at the time and did this as well. My husband says to tell you his method gave him "radical results"! I also want to add that I then had to blow my nose continuously for about an hour afterward, it was like I turned on a faucet. Also, to others it appeared I had a cold but they had no idea I was doing this protocol. It was worth it though because I have never been so clear. Again though, I have radically changed my diet since Oct.09 and I am certain it has had profound effects on my health and body, restoring its balance. I hope this helps you. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask and if I can answer them, I will.
Lisa
(Adelaide, South Australia, Australia)
04/04/2010
In response to Carla from Seattle. You asked about D-Ribose, Carla. My 32 year old daughter has fibromyalgia and suffered all the awful debilitating symptoms....constant, extreme pain,bloating, IBS,insomnia, extreme fatigue, muscles which felt "bumpy" to the touch etc. I read of D-Ribose, bought from a web site in the USA, and she's never looked back. Takes the recommended dose of 500....is it mgs or gms?,1 scoop.....a day. A few months later I read a book called "The green solution".This is about spirulina. She came to taking about 6 tablets a day. This gave her more stamina and further decreased her pain levels.
She is not cured of fibromyalgia, can still get some very bad pain in her right neck and shoulder, especially in situations of stress, but the two supplements, plus magnesium, VitBcomplex, VitC, Apple Cider vinegar and honey and a strictly alkaline diet with very little meat, (only turkey or lamb and fish)and no wheat, enable her to live a full, busy life of quality.
I must add that she has chiropractic and remedial massage regularly and does certain stretches and exercises every day and walks about an hour at least 5 days a week.
I'm very proud of her persistance with all that she does. Many people know what they need to do to be healthy, but are not prepared to help themselves.
Good luck, Carla, from Wendy.
Multiple Remedies
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So far, my CFS and Fibromyalgia are much improved, the thrush in my mouth is losing its hold. Pink skin is starting to appear at bottom of a totally white coated tongue. Totally yeast infected ears are almost totally cleared up (intense itching and yucky yeast residue are gone) I am making slow but progressive progress.
My understanding is that this overgrowth of systemic candida is due to a suppressed immune system, however you got it; overuse of antibiotics, birth control pills, use of steroids (prednisone),etc., all the bad things doctors give us to help us get well have made millions of us terribly ill. I am doing everything I can to build up my immune system. Read Ed McCabe's book, "Flood Your Body with Oxygen", in which he explains over and over again how YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM RUNS ON OXYGEN. This disease is a parasite and you are the host, it thrives in an anerobic environment (no oxygen), and the more oxygen you force into your body, the weaker this parasite becomes, but you must keep at it every day and never give up. I once recovered from this terrible disease doing yoga morning and night for a half an hour at a time. I felt great for about 3 months -- I looked wonderful, I felt wonderful, I couldn't get sick no matter how many sick people I was exposed to, my immune system was that strong and then I quit the yoga thinking it was the MSM that had done the healing, so it's back to gentle exercising to build up the immune system. Excessive exercise will just depress your immune system even more. Read up on how yoga builds up the immune system and detoxifies the body through urination, elimination and sweating. I believe due to the constant deep intake of oxygen with the deep breathing involved in the yoga poses and the constant twisting and bending involved that detoxified my liver, kidneys, pancreas, etc. my immune system became so strong nothing could exist in my body but great health.
Multiple Remedies
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I turned to yoga (very low impact, what seniors and bedridden people might do). With that circulation in the muscles improves and toxicity is also expelled. Diet is very important (avoid milk, sugars and refined products). I believe the candida diet helps to give your whole immune system a break so that it can heal naturally. Detoxification with herbs is also important to get rid of the toxins that have accumulated in the body (no side effects with these). If there is depression, add B vitamins to combat it and also read positive materials and keep in the company of positive and supportive people. Remember that thoughts are temporary and can change (do not give them importance as they will change eventually!) Be strong internally....you can reverse this condition. Do not underestimate the healing power of REST. The body lets you know when you need it (just listen!) High energy vitamins and supplementation of magnesium helped me as well. Acupuncture helps to get rid of pain and restore energy flow to help it get balanced (pick someone good!) Deal with your emotions and let go of whatever you are holding on to. Be good to yourself. Forgive yourself and others around you and see the power of healing (be receptive) change your condition. I was diagnosed almost two years ago, came off all medication within two months after beginning yoga. Turning to natural alternatives has improved/practically reversed this condition. I can now think about going back to work. Find a good naturopathic doctor who has worked with fibromyalgia.
Oil Pulling
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I started oil pulling a little more than a month ago, using Organic EVCO, followed by a good rinse, gargle, and brushing with hot water.
I have since noticed that my saliva isn't sticky, and the white coating on my tongue is GONE! My acupuncturist did a double take when she looked at my tongue after just one week. My teeth had looked cracked, and felt just bad in general, with thin areas of gum. Now the cracks aren't visible, the gum is getting plump and pink, and my teeth "feel" like they are going to stay in my head! After having 3 molars pulled, they started shifting like crazy, but they are settling down now.
Recommended this to a friend who wants to quit smoking, she said it sounds harmless enough, and if it helps her to quit, yay.
Thanks for introducing me to OP, I've added it to my regular routine! (Spitting it out in the shower after the pipes are heated from the water has so far prevented any clogs!)
Oil Pulling
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Oil Pulling
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Over the Counter
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Good thing CVS will take things back. I will return this item and let others know that is a side effect.
Thank you, Kathleen M
Ph Balancing
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To Patti from Canton, Ohio (11/24/07) I don't know what T3 therapy is, but I would be taking L-lysine 2grams (2000mgms) 4 times a day for any virus, including EpsteinBarr.
(Canton, Oh)
11/25/2007
Joyce, thank you for your advice about L lysine. Compounded T3 therapy is used to treat hypothyroidism. T3 is the active form of thyroid hormone, it is converted from the inactive form T4. I have been ill for many years but I feel I am getting well very slowly. My advice to everyone is to eliminate as much of the halogen chemicals as you can from water, diet toothpaste and medications. Ph balancing has helped me tremendously. The most benefical exercise by far is just to walk and some mild stretching. whatever works for you. be diligent with your healing program and never give up.
Patti: A malic acid, with some baking soda to reduce its acidity also helps the fibromyalgia in addition to the magnesium. However, the key issue of this condition I have found is the alkalinity as the most important factor.
Common remedies for antivirals I used is zinc acetate or zinc gluconate 50 mg, and sometimes the olive leaf extract. For antivirals to work best, the body must be alkalized first and no sugar as it would fuel the virus.
One extra tip from a fibromyalgia sufferer is 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda plus 3 drops of 3% H2O2 in one glass taken in the morning to help the energy level.
(Canton, Ohio)
12/10/2007
Thank you Ted for your reply. I will try the hydrogen peroxide with the baking soda for energy. Lately I have had a setback in my recovery by the way of an increase in pain everywhere. Am really trying hard to keep a positive attitude an thank all on EC for all the great remedies. I tested positive for EBV, Negative for mycoplasma, neg for lyme, and had antibodies for cpn. I also have a small tumor on my anterior pituitary gland, but the Dr. doesn't think my illness has any relation to it. Thanks again for your feedback. Will not ever give up.
Radiotronics
FYI--my wife was diagonosed with fibromyalgia in 1997. We tried all the doctors, MRI etc. We have the best health insurance. Finally tried something called bio-puncture--injections of natural remedies directly into her back for pain. Worked slightly but it took me to find a master herbalist in Phila. Well long story short--he tested her blood with a radiotronics machine. She had traces of lupus, pagents disease, bursitus. He made a homeopath remedy for a two week period. After two weeks we went back and retested. He found another four things that were there also. Another two week remedy. Well--after a month her pain all but vanished. She has been on muscle relaxers and pain pills for years.
To top it all off I was told I had herpes in my twenties. I made him test me and was told I had bartholonis. It mimics herpes and he made me a remedy. I used to take everclr which was an immune booster and only had problems a couple of times a year. Well I stopped taking the herbs and no sign of the blisters. I thought I had herpes for thirty years and never had it.
Since there is nothing like this on here, I wanted to let you know. I tell everyone about the site. I believe this man is a miracle worker. I am taking my wife back again soon to be retested. How can something like this not be out there? You can check his site--at first I thought the testimonials were bogus--but not anymore. His site is earthmotherherbs.Org. By no means am I promoting it--from what he tells me very few people are trained in this radiotronics machine. What is earthclincs take on this? Of course I don`t want my name used in the herpes section but this was a miracle. Please reply with your thoughts.
(Great Neck, Ny)
07/30/2012
(Petaluma)
08/17/2015
Rhodiola
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In addition, I have a question for anyone out there to answer if possible. Since I take Rhodiola and 5HTP together I wanted to know if this harmful since both are a mood relaxing vitamin. I take the one for anxiety the other for the Fibroymyalgia. In addition, after reading more information about 5HTP and some side affects I was wondering if I should stop using it for awhile. If anyone has an answer please respond. I want to say though that since I have been using it I have had no side affects that were bad only good ones.
(USA)
Much like Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10), the herb Rhodiola, appears to have the ability to enhance cellular energy production. Given that a decline in ATP production is known to be associated with fibromyalgia and fluoride poisoning, Rhodiola might be worth trying. Dr. St. Amand, the champion of the guaifenesin protocol, advocates CoQ10. Since CoQ10 is found within the body naturally that's certainly the safest choice. However, it may be that Rhodiola is also of some help as well.
5HTP, the precursor to serotonin, claims to help elevate mood, promote deep sleep, increase mental function, and normalize digestion. Such claims may well be true, but I would still highly encourage people to eliminate fluoride from their diet first instead, since that will go a long way toward doing the same thing.
Sam-E
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Tart Cherry Extract, Vitamin B-1
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Bi Thiamine takes away about 50% of fibro pain also, so I take 3 100mg pills & a multi-vitamin along with the cherry extract once per day.
Try it. I hope it helps you.
