Effective Natural Remedies for High Blood Pressure Management

How much lemon are you using? Is it just the juice or skin and seeds and all. Also, is it 100% hibiscus tea or one of the combination tea blends like Red Zinger How long did it take to see results?

Hi,

This sounds wonderful! How much aloe vera is there in a medium sized leaf? Do you add the whole lemon with seeds and skin? Do you add water to the mixture while blending?How much mixture do you get after straining? About half a cup?

Sorry abt the questions :) But pls do answer when you have time.

Please respond: DO YOU BLEND THE GREEN LEAVE OR PEEL THE LEAF AND ONLY BLEND THE GEL?

hi, I blend the whole aloe leaf, whole lemon, peel and all, add about a cup of water more or less. When strained you should have a glassful of liquid. First few days I had cramps and loose stools as the outer part of the aloe leaf is a laxitive. I believe it is part of the cleansing process. Drink plenty of water to prevent dehydration. The hibiscus is 100% hibiscus. You should be able to find it at a natural foods store or a store with ethnic products. I saw results in the second week, numbers started to go down.

Is it just the leaf or the aloe cream inside too?

If one does not have aloe vera plants, would it be effective to use aloe vera juice instead? If so, how much? Thank you for a response....

This is for "Lidia from San Jose, Ca", reply dated "08/07/2011.

I was just wondering where can I get the hibiscus tea from dried herb? I googled walmart, walgreens, cvs but no luck...

Thanks Lidia...

Hemmy

Amazon has it.

Hibiscus tea sometimes comes under other names one of them being Karkade. Maybe you find it with this name..... Here in Europe it is quite easy to find hibiscus tea!

Would like to try this, but how is it possible to have enough Aloe plants to use a leaf a day? I have one small plant. Would taking the aloe that is bottled be beneficial, if purchased at a health food store? I've tried the apple cider vinegar and cayenne pepper and neither of these lower my blood pressure. Anyone had success with the bottled aloe vera?

Hibiscus tea can also be obtained in Latin American or Mexican markets. It is called flor de Jamaica (say floor day ha-may-ca)

This question is for Lidia.

How long do you wait to drink your regular coffee or tea/or having your breakfast after drinking the aloe/lemon/honey mixture in the morning?

Did not know I was suppose to put a cup of hot water in with it. But came out a little thick ate it with spoon but very, very tart! I can take a tablesppon of ACV and it's not as bad as this. Is there another way of taking this- can you use lemon juice and aloe juice?

You can buy Hibiscus seeds on line from EBay.... They would take time to grow though, but you would have plants of your own. You can also buy Hibiscus dried flowers and other items on EBay.

Aldi stores do 99.9% Aloe Vera juice if you cannot get your own leaves to do it. Health stores sell it too, but its more expensive.

I make Hibiscus tea with lemon juice and honey added to the petals with boiling water... It's lovely!

I started this 12 days ago, I check my BP twice a day. So far no change.. It was said that BP will start to drop after 14 days, I sure hope this works, I also have high blood sugar and have hopes it to will be lowered, so far it is not. I will post again after 2 weeks treatment..

Lidia, you can order loose organic hibiscus online. Try mountainroseherbs.com.

I too have high blood pressure and am trying this diet. I found buying a large leaf and skinning it and putting it into a frozen berry smoothie makes it taste great. Your favorite berries, blueberry, strawberry or rasberry. Add bananna etc. I am awaiting any lower bp but it tastes great. It does blow the empty stomach aspect though. The hibiscus tea also tastes fairly tolerable straight-up. I am doing both with Magnesium and am checking if it is taurate or not.

Ive seen Hibiscus teas at Central Market and Whole Foods as well. Especially in summertime. Spice and Tea shop at Pike Place Market.

I have two questions after reading several entries. If some one would be so kind to answer, I would appreciate the info. 1. Where can one obtain Aloe Vera leaves, I live in eastern North Carolina. 2. What is "Mother" that some are reporting to take with the ACV?
Thanks!

Ujosh from Dubai, Can you please send me your video of how you make the juice you talked about for high blood pressure. Thanks

Yvonne, do you cut up and blend a piece of leaf with the outside of it, or do you scrape out only the goo?

Could you give your recipe? thanks

I found this video after reading all of the posts in this thread. I would not use store bought juice personally but this is a great and simple tutorial that I'm definitely going to try! (aloe vera drink/juice)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyvB4xYZ7lY&feature=plcp

Here is the video where she claims to have lowered her own blood pressure and stopped her medications because of aloe vera

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XHRiBAMm_I

Do you eat the outside aloe Vera skin or throw away skin ???

I wanted to try the aloe vera plant for high blood pressure. I even bought it but then I looked up on the internet side effects of this and yes I know that western medicine doesn't want cures but this concerned me.. I read a few sites that said aloe vera can cause colon cancer and kidney disease. So what is up with that?? anyone???

Hi Marie from New York - Regarding your comments about colon cancer and kidney disease caused by Aloe Vera. There is a truckload of rubbish on the internet, most of the time provided/supplied by the parties interested to mislead the public. In the future if you write a comment like this, could you please reference it, to see if the information is credible or just one of those misleading ones? Although in my case Aloy Vera didn't help reducing my HB, it had other benefits. I used it for six weeks every day 1large stick of washed Aloe, minus thorns, 1 banana, 1 whole lemon, 1 tbs of honey, 4 sticks of young asparagus mixed in the blender. It wasn't good for my HB, but helped with my chronic gastritis, helped with refluxes and like I mentioned cleaned me out, and caused NO SIDE EFFECTS of any kind at all!!! (The taste isn't very pleasent, my wife had it only once, therefore I would advise to use half the amount I used. - Anything is better then the medications and their side effects)

Franko from Perth in W/Australia

Hi I'm interested on the about recipe can you please share full details of the ingridents? Like How to prepared the aloe vera with skin or without skin? The lemon with skin or without skin? Blend just the 3 things with water or by themselves? How many days should I drink this drink? I would really appreciate if you can get back to me at your earliest convinience! Thanks

Si se cuela, recuerda de agregarle una tasa de agua al licuarlo.

[If it is strained, remember to add a cup of water to liquefy.]

You can get dried hibiscus flowers at Mexican tiendas (grocery stores). Look for "Flor Jamaica" or "Rosa de Jamaica." They are more potent than most hibiscus in tea bags. I use a tablespoon of dried hibiscus flowers per cup of water, and steep for at least 15 minutes to get a dark, strong, red tea. Heat the water to 196 degrees, but no hotter. If you heat it to boiling, you'll destroy the helpful constituents of the plants. I have a friend from Guatemala whose father is a doctor. She says get the red variety of dried hibiscus flowers, as they are the most potent. The best I've had was from Guatemala, but Frontier brand from Amazon is very good also.

Buy "Te de Florida" from a Mexican store. No preservatives, just hibiscus flowers.

I always wonder how is that Americans are so scary of natural remedies and need to know EXACTLY how much drops, leaves, seeds.etc. Nature doesn't work like that. At the same time they go out and eat half a pizza without worries about how much fat, cheese, etc they are eating.

Bragg is an organic unfiltered ACV (with mother in it), meaning it's not filtered....looks murky not clear, so all the good stuff is still in it.

You can find Aloe leafs in the produce section of some grocery stores. I know Save A Lot carries them.

Hibiscus tea is the same as the dried red flower that is being sold in any Latino Market and is called " Jamaica "

best regards

Sigistardust, read up on the water cure for high blood pressure. You actually DO need some salt, but the good kind.

Sigistardust: In the 21st century civilization is evil wicked masterminds coming across as enlightened knowledgeable wise men. We eat toxins that poison us. Meds make us worse. Thank God His goodies rescue us. Take activated barley, barley grass juice powder, raw cocoa powder, desiccated liver, aged garlic, skate liver oil, cayenne, expeller pressed coconut oil, black chia seeds, yucca liquid, and unrefined sea salt.

Start off by getting a blood pressure monitor at the drugstore. Take it yourself and keep a record of what it is. Then, practice 'calming' techniques--deep breathing, etc, and learn how to get it down that way. Make a list of everything you take and then check each item to see if it can raise your bp. the dgl licorice for my ulcer would raise mine, so even 'natural' things we take can make it go up. Besides that, do some research on this site and see what else you can do. If your bp is normal when you take it yourself, then you can show this to the dr and demonstrate that he causes it to go up.

Hi Sigistardust, are you drinking enough water? Check Youtube for "Your body's many cries for water" and "water cure" - hope it helps, good luck.

sigistardust, google DR.HANS A NIEPER the curious man, you can buy an online book for $3.03 that explains everything, and tells you exactly what to get to rectify most heart and blood pressure problems, you're right to not take their poison drugs, also try himalayan pink salt (www.saltworks.us) this salt will only raise B P 2 to 3 points. Luckyvitamines.com has the products from dr nieper, they are reasonably priced

Hi Sigistardust...Coversyl contains a drug called perindopril whose main dangerous side-effect is to cause renal failure due to the combination of high drug acidity and high blood pressure which always tends to destroy the delicate filtration network in the kidneys. So you were very right to refuse this drug.

To help you with your BP problem:

* Take 500 mgs Niacin(Vitamin B3) twice a day at meals. To avoid the niacin flush effect, take an aspirin 20 mins before you take the niacin. Or you can take the slow release form of niacin -- inositol hexanicotinate, which will not give the flush. Do not use the niacinamide form of B3 as this has no beneficial effect on blood pressure. See this article by Abram Hoffer. See this article on how to take niacin.

* Also take a tablespoon of Brewer's Yeast once every day in a drink -- B Vitamins always work better when supplemented naturally as a group because all the B vits are dependent on each other and tend to work together in concert. Niacin particularly acts to change the blood. Blood which is too thick or which has too much clumping will be more viscous with increased BP and increased strain on the heart. Niacin safely thins the blood, lowering BP to normal levels thus removing the strain on the heart.

*Supplement a source of Iodine. I find Lugol's Iodine the best (I been taking 8 drops or 50 mgs 5% LI a day for the last 8 years). You can also use other iodine forms like Iodoral if you wish. Iodoral is simply Lugol's Iodine in a pill. I regard iodine as an essential mineral element that everyone lacks in their diets today and most people are low thyroid as a result. Iodine also helps to solublize fats and proteins(including cholesterol) in the blood for better utilization and removal by the liver. Coronary heart disease, high BP etc can be caused by blockages or build up of fat proteins (called lipoproteins) in the blood. So supplementing lugols iodine acts to normalize these lipoprotein to more healthier levels. See these guidelines on how to supplement lugol's iodine. Iodine also increases energy, kills a wide variety of pathogens, prevents menstrual problems by normalizing hormones, increases bone density, reduces cysts formation, removes mercury, lead, aluminium, cadmium, arsenic, fluorine and bromine from the body as well as being the main ammunition needed for the immune system to help fight pathogens in all the mucus sites of the body.

* Reduce all diary in the diet to reduce your calcium intake. Lipoproteins are normally bound to calcium which can cause constriction and blockages in the blood vessels. Take 250 mgs of Magnesium Citrate twice a day with meals to help regulate excess calcium in the blood which may be causing contributing to your problems.

* Take Vitamin C -- 1, 000 mgs three times a day.

* Nattokinase. This is a protease enzyme that digests fibrin or dead organic matter in the blood vessels that can cause blockages and high BP. I would first try all the nutrients shown above on their own for a while first. If that doesn't help then use the nattokinse (which is expensive).

And being a vegetarian I should also add Vitamin B12(not in Brewer's Yeast) and some form of extra sulfur to your diet -- -like MSM(Methyl-sulfonyl-methane), ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid) or N-Acetyl-Cysteine. See research on essential sulfur for the body for more ideas. Vegetarians generally always lack adequate sulfur nutrients in there diets. Sulfur can also be found in small amounts in foods like eggs, garlic and onions.

Hello Bill and others who offered me help in regards to b.p on this issue. I bought some lugol's iodine from Australia, just wonder does the product has to be refridged after opening the bottle? Something I didnt do! But I will take lugol again. Niacin seems to be also a healer, I once took niacin, but broke out in hives, which scared me I will try it again. Will start with a smaller doses, don't mind the flush, vit b-3

Again many many thank you all of you with sound advise.!!! I will let you know my progress after 2 weeks it should show some.

Warm regards, Sigistardust

Hello Bill!

Question about Lugol's. I have been using 2 drops every day of the 2% solution. Have been researching for many days on low thyroid activity as I am overweight and have been dealing with an itching pimple like rash, along with water retention in the ankles. I too am trying to wean off the blood pressure medication. Right now I do feel that estrogen is causing a lot of problems for me as I am in that change of life. But I have read that supplementing with iodine causes suppressed thyroid hormones as does PUFA"s. What are your thoughts on those? I take flaxseed oil daily and now am finding that it should not be taken because it's high in PUFA's. Also, Bee, have you considered progesterone for the high blood pressure. I take approximately 200-400 mg a day of natural progesterone.

Hi Rj...The cause of your high blood pressure may well be due to hormonal imbalances in your body. Taking progesterone is useful, but this is really only treating the symptoms -- because your body is already lacking in progesterone (due to hormonal imbalance -- the realcause) and so you are not actually addressing the main reason or cause for this problem.

The best way to balance your hormones is to take the full Iodine Protocol together with niacin + B vitamins on a daily basis. Take at least 500 mgs niacin twice a day at meals. You can also take the no-flush niacin -- inositol hexanicotinate which might perhaps be easier for you. Other forms of niacin such as niacinamide do not have such beneficial effects on blood pressure. Take either B50 complex or brewers yeast once a day as well.

There is some research by Dr Flechas from the Iodine Project, who describes his treatment with LI for a 320 lb lady with both thyroid problems and diabetes. After only a short while on iodine, this lady was able to completely come off her diabetes meds. What's more, she lost 70 lbs after several months on the iodine protocol. Iodine makes all hormone gland activity more efficient and also tends to make digestion, transport, assimilation and the excretion of fats more efficient in the body. I lost a tremendous amount of weight after I started taking LI, and it has stayed off.

Other protocols, such as the alkalizing protocols and the borax water protocols shown here on EC and taken on a daily basis will also help you to further balance your hormones and lower your blood pressure.

You should also avoid the combination of fats(especially veg oils), unrefined salt(use sea salt instead) and sugar in your diet.

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Hello Bill!

It is so very frustrating. Right now as I sit here and type this back to you my skin feels as though it's sunburned and if I scratch it welts...ugh! Hormones are completely out of whack....have been for two years now. Just one day woke up and my body didn't want to look back to being normal. But at 48 I do not expect that. I will read the iodine protocol as I only take 12.5mg a day. It is so confusing. Ray Peat is the person who does not recommend taking iodine as it creates low thyroid activity...in fact, the only vitamin he recommends is an "E" every now and then. If I followed that protocol I would be throwing away 99.9% of my supps. But at 280 pounds something isn't going right inside and this itching, inflamed skin is driving me batty LOL. I do take a lot of supplements a day and I mean a lot. I even suspected that I was having trouble with one of them and stopped all of them for a month and reintroduced...no luck...still itch and inflamed. The only thing I haven't stopped is my bp medicine which may be causing the trouble. I know I cannot go out in the sun for more than five minutes or I burn and welt terribly. I take all of what you have suggested except I take a B-100 complex and I do not take niacin. I did read your link to doctoryourself....very interesting. What is your take on flaxseed oil versus coconut oil. That is something else Ray Peat said, that PUFA"s are bad and sadly flaxseed oil falls into that category. Thank you for your suggestions, as with Ted's, yours are also very important to the person trying to change their "insides" without the doctor prescribed chemicals. Besides when we get down to it we are just a number in the thousands a doctor sees. Whereas, we are number one with ourselves....well sometimes...you know what I mean LOL. If I had been number one for all these years I wouldn't be so obese ;) Thank you again!

Hello Bee!

Go to progesteronetherapy.com. Wray has a wonderful site. I too am trying desperately to get off the bp medicine. Would like to lose 50 pounds before I do, but the weight won't budge as I am sure from hormonal imbalance. I have actually cut back from two pills a day to a half a pill a day. The only reason I continue to take that half now is the water retention....it's just awful in the ankles. That is why I am once again searching on EC's site...looking for a remedy. Natural is so much better for you. Read greenmedinfo.com. Sayer has a lot of good information on his site. His site along with Earthclinics, Wray's and Mike Adams aka Naturenews have been lifesavers for me. Earthclinic helped with a spider bite last month that we were desperate to find a solution as the doctors were not helping. I feel your pain, Bee. I really do. It will work out. Patience along with trial and error. God Bless! RJ

The following study shows that a combination of arginine and n acetyl cysteine in humans can lower blood pressure and the side effects are positive ones:

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/31/5/940.long

Art

Hello Art!

I take approximately 1,500mg a day of NAC...have for about two years. It's wonderful for women who have breakthrough bleeding. I was afraid to take the arginine as I have read that folks who use blood pressure medicine should not take it. But I will read your link. Thank you so much! God Bless! RJ

Hi Rj,

Yes, I definitely would not take arginine with nac without discussing it with your doctor first.

In that study, the NAC and Arginine were not used with other blood pressure lowering drugs, but rather as a stand alone treatment. What I liked about that study was the good results and especially the benefit of all of the potential "side effects". With regular blood pressure meds, the side effects are usually negative. You'd have to read the link to see what those side benefits are, but they are numerous and good in terms of long term overall health.

What is odd to me is that there were never any followup studies on that relatively small and obscure 2008 study considering how good the results were. I guess there is no money motivation in it. If a drug company came out tomorrow with a blood pressure med that could lower blood pressure and have all of those other positive health benefits, it would be a block buster for sure!

The combination of arginine/nac is what I use to control my pressure and I add in lysine every so often to keep my arginine/lysine ratio balanced.

Good luck!

Art

Hello Art!

I would suppose no further studies because of what you have found out from your own experience....the combination of the two work and the drug companies do not want that as they cannot patent either of the supps. The other reason could be the study came out of Italy. You will not see the US following up on that...just like all the bad publicity of statins here of late. They cause our bodies far worse problems than taking them. In fact, I have recently read that a good cholesterol level in a woman entering menopause is 280.

Natural remedies are not what big pharma companies are seeking. And I do believe I will try the combination. I am trying to stop the bp medicine so I do not have to go back to the doctor. Finding a good doctor with an open mind to natural remedies is not available in the rural areas. Further my current doctor wanted me to have blood work done and told me he hoped all the results would come back bad so it would motivate me to lose weight. I was dumbfounded and hurt and prayed to the Lord as I was coming out of his office that I would find a cure to all my ailments. I didn't do the blood work lol. Why? I know what I am battling. I do not need blood work to tell me things are off kilter. I have begun the iodine protocol Bill recommended as I had that on hand and will order the niacin and arginine also...I already take lysine...and maybe along with the bp going down so will the weight. But again, thank you for your link. Hopefully, it will help someone else also. God Bless! RJ

Go off your BP meds very slowly. Get a pill cutter and take off 1/4 of the pill and stay on that for 3 weeks. Then take another 1/4 off and stay on that for 3 weeks...Repeat the process until completely off...Be very careful especially with Atenolol. It can cause neuropathy...If you go off too fast it will cause ventricular tachycardia which means an operation called "Radio Frequency Catheter Ablation" which takes 4 1/4 hours with NO anesthesia...

There are many easy ways to lower your BP without drugs...Don't be a buyer for your supplier.

And by all means DON'T let them talk you into going on any kind diuretic what-so-ever!

Drink lots of water with sea salt...The water and salt will lower your BP naturally. Drink 6-8 glasses a day with a liberal amount of sea salt on your food. It works. And of course try to walk a bit every day.

Mr .Rhee

If you are speaking to me then yes I am doing the weaning of medication very slowly.. Started last Feb. and decided to go at a very slow pace because I have read horror stories about beta blockers but not atenolol.. You scared me a bit too. Anyway; I at first started with advice from a doctor and had aweful side effects so I found other info. in other places and decided to do it another way and much much slower...and forget what the doctor said....When I felt level at a lower dose for a few months I extended the time I took it instead of cutting the pills.. I found that online. that seems to work the best.. and yes it comes to about a l/4 off each time.. So I hope this is slow enough because I am on 50mgs.now from 100 to 75 since last Feb. but I feel this is good and progress for me.. I felt like what was the rush but when a doctor wont help or tell you oh; you can get off this in two months I said no can do....I am doing it slow and at my own pace. they just don't listen or care..and look at me like I have three heads..so if I do need more medication for weaning I will just get more and do it more slowly if I have to....

Anyway; I feel yes at doing it at the l/4 seems right.. to get this stuff out of the system and feel balanced... last night I felt I might be ready for 37 miligrams as I have been on 50 for almost a month and half and just felt it was okay... but I will def. see how I feel the next few days..if I have to stay on 50 mgs. longer then I will... and then back down to 37 mgs.. for as long as I need and so on and so on.

Bee, you're doing well. Doctors are not especially compassionate these days and haven't been for many years... It was different in the 50's and 60's...You know how you feel. If he or she doesn't believe it, get another doctor or stay tuned to Earth Clinic which is an HMO for a lot of people...Good luck and btw Atenolol IS a beta blocker...

High blood pressure while in docs office is called "white coat disease"

What you should do is NOT have BP taken as you enter only after you have seen the doc than let them take your BP, because they usually only put the first one on the chart. It usually takes 15 minutes for the BP to slow down after you enter the office and this is your resting BP.

I have never heard of white coat hypertension in a Doctors Office being called a disease. I believe Doctors call it "White Coat Syndrome".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_coat_hypertension

Someone commented that you can purchase Dr Hans nieple book for $3 online. That is incorrect. The book is $12 and up and that is for used. Just wanted to clarify.

Hi, how do you take iodine? I have HBP, high cholesterol and high sugar levels, three months back all was normal and being in quarantine all my numbers increased.

You can eat kelp from the sea or iodized salt or lugol's iodine. I order it online but Iodine lowers selenium. Low selenium can cause cancer to grow. Iodine is one of many minerals we need to stay in health. Chromium and vanadium help keep blood sugars in check. Lecithin emulsifies fats out of the body. L-taurine helps MSG exit stage left so you can eat it and stay in health at the same time.

Ashwaganda is good for stress relief. Nutritional yeast for b vitamins coat nerve cells and aid digestion. Magnesium Is a heart mineral that is calming. Vitamin D with K for hormone balancing . Self Talk and media choices are very important in any crisis.

Stress appears to be an issue and I don't know your age, but I would use apple cider vinegar 1 tsp in cup of water to improve digestion and immune health. Leave the water out, no lid, for one hour and chlorine will exit before you drink it. Chlorine interferes with iodine ports in body ( like thyroid gland has one) because they are both halides .

I have said too much …..maybe. Blessing, charity

It seems like I was reading my own story. My doctor is also forcing me to take some kind of calcium blockers and giving me extra calcium to take. That calcium can go straight to my bone and stay there. Scary! I don't take chemicals either. I am trying hisbiscus tea+ cayenne and Apple cider vinegar. It take time. There is no magic pill, not even the pill that doctors give will cure BP. If he can tell me reason why my BP is high then I will take the medication. All my blood results are good. I am so scared of my Doctor that after seeing him I was sick for more than a week. I worry too much and don't sleep at night and the BP goes higher. Now I changed my doctor. I will keep changing doctors or leave this private hospital in California if they keep on pushing me. I told them, I have lived my life successfully and I am content with it. At least I don't want to live a very long life any way. They shouldn't worry about me. I was all right without insurance for 7 years and then when I had insurance I hardly saw my doctor and I felt good and no worries. Now I am 65 and got medicare so every thing changed and I tries this hospital because they do every tests in their facility and results come fast.

I just discovered that my HBP is 188/117. Haven't checked it since 2002 when it was considered perfect. I've been reviewing this blog page and I'm trying to figure out if its the ACV mixed with water or the ACV with Mother mixed with water that is what really works. Is it the Veniger, the Mother or the combined pair that makes up the vital component?

HI There, When you take the acv with 8 oz of water, does it matter whether or not it's gulped down to get it over with or is it necessary to take your time?

No, the speed at which you consume the Apple Cider Vinegar is irrelevant. You may also wish to add a spoonful of honey or turbinado sugar (the stuff that still has the molasses in it) to sweeten it. Remember too that if your palette is accustomed to sweet things, eating or drinking foods that are devoid of that taste can be even worse.

How do you balance the acid/alkaline in your body when you're taking apple cider vinegar? I read in a very respected nutritional healing book that too much acv can cause acidosis. I really want to get off the meds for my hb.

I was wondering the same thing - does anyone have an answer????? Thanks!

The reason Citrus fruits like lemons, lime and ACV are good for the body is that ACV contains malic acid and acetic acid and citrus fruits contain mainly citric acid.

When these acids reach your duodenum, which needs an alkaline to neutral medium for the duodenal enzymes to work, bicarbonates are released from the pancreas to neutralize the stomach acid or chyme. These bicarbonates are also used to neutralize the citric acids from fruits and the malic acid and acetic acid. The acids from the ACV then become their salts -- actetates and malates which are highly absorbable in the intestines and they are referred to as alkaline forming. The citric acid from the fruits is converted to citrates which are also absorbed for the same reasons.

The best way to alkalize is either to squeeze a lemon or lime into a glass, or use two tablespoons of ACV plus 1/4 - 1/2 tspn of baking soda because by doing this you convert the citric acid from the fruits to citrates and you also convert the malic acid and acetates in the ACV to their salts BEFORE you digest them. So you don't need to use your own digestion's bicarbonates to neutralize these acids -- thus effectively saving your body's bicarbonates which promotes even better alkalinity as well as promoting more efficient digestion and respiration for your body overall. Essentially, by using the salt form rather than the acid forms, you are saving the body bicarbonates for use in your body rather than wasting them unecessarily in digestion.

This is also the reason why Ted always advises to take Vitamin C not as Ascorbic acid but as ascorbates. Exactly the same reasoning applies here too. Ascorbic acid is actually a pro-oxidant, and when you add sodium bicarbonate to a solution of ascorbic acid, this then becomes an ascorbate salt of sodium -- an anti-oxidant.

This post is to Bill. Thank you for your excellent explanation of this alkalizing method. I have several questions for you. Firstly, when you were treating your systemic yeast infection you used molasses. How could that have worked considering you would be feeding them? Did it not make you retain water and gain weight?

Secondly, you used an alkalizing formula 3X per day did you not retain water from all the sodium in the baking soda? Also would you not experience some sort of electrolyte imbalance with all that (non sea salt) type of sodium?

I have so many of the same problems and have been fighting for my health for about 14 yrs now. Getting a bit discouraged. would like to try exactly what you did. It really sounds like Dr. Tulio Simoncini's baking soda cure for cancer. He believes cancer is fungus and he floods the area with glucose? (anyway some type of sugar)maybe it works because they feed, and they relax then he blasts the area with a very strong dose of baking soda. Any of your comments would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Mary

Hi Bill: One more question. Why do you think so many jpoeple report weight loss here on earth clinic, with the use of ACV and water? they do not include baking soda? And one post said it (ACV and BS) made her retain water?
what are your thoughts?

Thanks, Mary

Hi Mary...Many thanks for your questions. I'll try and answer them as best I can:

Firstly, when you were treating your systemic yeast infection you used molasses. How could that have worked considering you would be feeding them? Did it not make you retain water and gain weight?

This is a good question. Oddly enough, when I cured myself of candida and everything else, I lost alot of weight(over 25 lbs). When you alkalize, you effectively put your body into high working efficiency. Your immune system improves and your energy also improves because alkalizing and bicarbonates are specifically used in human respiration and in digestion, making these body processes much more efficient.

I also used VCO in my candida remedy on a daily basis because the saturated fats in VCO(as medium chain triglycerides) are not stored as fat in the body, but instead the unneeded saturated fat is simply excreted directly from the liver into the intestines. Normal vegetable oils or polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats(long chain triglycerides) are always stored in the body as fats. This is why I have a high regard for VCO, for me it is the safest and best edible oil in the world.

I used molasses in order to supply my body with more minerals -- specifically magnesium and potassium during my remedy. In those early days, I was an EC newbie and didn't understand that much. If I had candida now, I probably wouldn't use molasses, but would use sea salt and fulvic acid for minerals instead and would also use borax to help kill off the candida as well. I would also use hydrogen peroxide and magnesium chloride or citrate as well which I never used before(I use them now).

Secondly, you used an alkalizing formula 3X per day did you not retain water from all the sodium in the baking soda? Also would you not experience some sort of electrolyte imbalance with all that (non sea salt) type of sodium?

When most people think sodium, they think it is the big, bad enemy -- salt. But sodium is not salt. I also agree with Ted, our bodies need sodium, over 80% of our body electrolytes consist of sodium. Therefore we need sodium everyday. The scare over salt is, in my own opinion, well overplayed. As long as you use natural sea salt, you should have few sodium or salt issues.

You wont retain water using sodium bicarbonate as you would with table salt because they are completely different substances with different effects on the body. Sodium bicarbonate is NaHCO3 whereas salt is NaCl. Both have completely different behaviours in the body. Ordinary table salt has a pH = 5 whereas sea salt has a pH = 7.5 - 8.5 and is more alkaline which is why natural sea salt is so much better for you. Table salt is refined and so only contains NaCl, whereas a good natural sea salt will contain many minerals as well and has many more useful body electrolytes that are both necessary for the body as well as being alkaline and more balancing.

Why do you think so many jpoeple report weight loss here on earth clinic, with the use of ACV and water? they do not include baking soda? And one post said it (ACV and BS) made her retain water?
what are your thoughts?

Acid body conditions can lead to accumulation of fats. So can pollution of the body from heavy metals. In fact, I have read that the production and storage of fats in the body is a kind of body defence against the accumulation of heavy metals, a way for the body to hide the heavy metals safely in order to protect against their bad effects on the organs and blood.

I would also rarely use ACV without using baking soda with it. If you take ACV on its own, the acetic and malic acids in the ACV will be converted to acetate and malate salts by your digestion and then will be absorbed. So this actually depletes your body stores of sodium bicarbonates. By adding sodium bicarbonate to the ACV plus water you convert the acids to their salts BEFORE you ingest them so you save your body bicarbonates, by not having to digest and convert these acids to their salts. So you alkalize you body even more this way by saving your own bicarbonates.

The lady who gained weight using ACV might have had a problem with her kidneys or liver, we just don't know. Kidneys regulate minerals and water in the blood, she might have had a water retention problem. Fat and glucose metabolism is mainly handled by the liver, so there might have been a problem there too. Also we have no idea what her diet was and she was really one of the few cases on EC where ACV didn't help her condition.

Hi Bill: thank you very much for your timley reply. I will think about this and design a program for myself. I will report back on how it works! I always look forward to reading your posts and am starting to store them in one spot!

Mary

Hi Bill and EC: EC could you help me to locate Bill's original post on this topic, i cannot find it anywhere and have given up looking.

Bill if you see this would you kindly review what you did/ would do exactly to rid a body of systemic yeast infection. i should have saved it!!!!!!!!!! thank you so much!!!! mary

Hi Mary...Just to help explain some things. The only thing I would perhaps change in my original anti-candida protocol now is perhaps to avoid the Blackstrap Molasses part -- because BSM contains sugar which helps to feed the candida fungus. I took BSM for the minerals -- mainly potassium and magnesium -- but there are better ways.

From what I know now, I would add this to the protocol:

* Borax -- The ultimate fungal killer. Take 1/8 teaspoon in a litre of water every day. Normally taken for 4 days, then 3 days off every week. 20 Mule Team Borax is fine for this. Borax also removes fluorine from the body.

* Magnesium Chloride or Magnesium Citrate supplementation -- at least 400 mg per day(split into 2 doses). Magnesium is used in over 300 enzyme reactions in your body, balances hormones, calming, acts like an antibiotic against bacteria, helps the heart, reduces calcium build-up in the tissues(thus further reducing body acidity) and also works together with the borax to improve and maintain bone health.

* Hydrogen Peroxide -- Anti-fungal, anti-bacterial and anti-viral. Used in the protocol mainly to help clear or detox the blood and lymph of debris and to give you more energy.

* Natural sea salt or Fulvic acid for proper mineral balance.

* Chlorella to remove heavy metal build-up in the body.

* Iodine -- using Lugol's or Iodoral tablets. You can also just paint the soles of your feet with ordinary iodine tincture twice a week(I do this) -- the iodine will be absorbed through the skin. Iodine will help to remove bromine, chlorine and fluorine from the body and will also give good support to the immune system. Iodine also helps to kill the candida.

* Instead of using my own tri-herbal remedy -- choose any good quality herbs of your own choice -- such as milk thistle, dandylion and burdock -- to support both your kidneys and liver -- these are the main excretory organs of the blood. Doing this will soften the candida die-off or Herxheimer effects during the protocol.

With my original anti-candida protocol(when I didn't know as much as I do now), it took a whole year to defeat my candida. Ted maintains that you should be able to cure candida properly in 4 months. These additions should help you to achieve this.

I take most of the above now on a daily, weekly or monthly basis as a preventative defence for my body and as immune support. I haven't had cold, flu etc for well over 3 years now -- I used to catch everything under the sun when I had candida!!

Hi Bill: Thanks so much for summing it up so nicely. i have 2 questions for you. firstly, do you feel totally safe with the 20 mule team in your body. Secondly you did not mention the alkalizing remedy in this summation. is there a reason? is one on the list superior?

Thanks always, Mary.

Raw MANUKA HONEY, AND MASTIC GUM FOR H-PYLORI, AND APPLE CIDER VINEGAR FOR THE HEARTBURN. You might want to get your Dr. to test you to see if you have gallbladder probs. also, since so many things make you sick.

Baldev,

I recently replied to someone else who's blood pressure would rise at night.

http://answers.earthclinic.com/blood-pressure-spikes-at-night.html

This may apply to your situation. In the studies I linked to there are two things that standout. Our melatonin production, like many other things, declines as we get older and melatonin can help control night time blood pressure. The things you can do to help melatonin production are to avoid bright lighting at night, avoid watching tv for one to two hours before bed and avoid using your computer for one to two hours before bed time. These things can trick your body into thinking it is day time and can cause delayed or inadequate melatonin production which can ultimately lead to night time hypertension which would be apparent first thing in the morning.

In one of the studies it was shown that bright light at night was an independent factor for increased nocturnal hypertension.....so there is a double effect, reduced night time melatonin production as we age leading to increased nocturnal hypertension and bright light related nocturnal hypertension plus the fact that bright lighting at night can lead to reduced melatonin production.

Making your bedroom as dark as possible at night can aid in melatonin production. Even minor lighting such as from a clock or light leaking through window shades. A possibly easier way to create darkness in your bedroom is to wear eye shades that are made of soft fabric that you wear like glasses while you sleep. These are simple non-invasive ideas you can try on your own to see if it helps control your nocturnal hypertension. Lastly you can supplement with low dose melatonin before bed or in the evening. There are delayed release and time release melatonin that try to mimic your bodies natural production of melatonin. Melatonin production by the pineal gland is thought to peak around one in the morning and the timed release/delayed release supplements can sometimes help restore that peak and help control nocturnal hypertension. If melatonin production is way off or out of sync, it can result in insomnia at night and tiredness during the day.

Finally, if the melatonin and darkening of your evening environment does not get your hypertension low enough, n acetyl cysteine with arginine was able to lower mine as mentioned in a previous post listed on EC in the appropriate area of the site.

Keep us posted on your progress!

Art

Hi Baldev...There are really two common reasons for high blood pressure.

The first reason is due to heart arteries that become constricted which is caused by a continual circular build up of of Lipo-A(a derivative of cholesterol) in the arteries near the heart. And as Dr Linus Pauling has mentioned in his book on Vitamin C -- he describes in his research how a common goat can self-manufacture 12gms of Vit C every day and up to 18gms of Vit C under stressed conditions. A goat is much smaller than a human adult. Humans are also missing the one digestive enzyme that the goat has for converting glucose to Vit C but the implications from the goat analogy are that humans obviously require much larger amounts of Vit C than are advised by the FDA. This is especially true as we get older.

Dr Pauling, in his protocol for arteriosclerosis(which also causes high blood pressure), describes just taking from 6 gms of both Vitamin C and Lysine(an amino acid) 6 times a day at one gram per dose(for Lysine and Vit C) outside mealtimes. Take both these nutrients dissolve in a glass of water. The protocol is also much better if you convert the Ascorbic Acid form(Vit C) to the Ascorbate Vit C form by adding Sodium Bicarbonate to the solution until the fizzing stops. Then just add the Lysine and take it like that. A very simple protocol. Take this protocol every day at one hour intervals between each dose.

The second reason you may have high blood is because you may have thick or "sticky" blood. This stickiness is caused by the blood clumping together which causes more stress for the heart(high blood pressure). You should take about 100 mgs niacin at mealtimes 3 times a day. And if you can do it it, you should raise the dose to 500 mgs for better or quicker effect -- but please be aware of the "niacin flush". Do not use niacinamide for this protocol because there is no niacin flush with this version. Niacin and the niacin flush are what is needed because only niacin will safely unclump the blood and also helps to increase NO to the arteries, allowing them to become more elastic and flexible and niacin also helps to open up the capillaries(causing the niacin flush effect) thereby naturally reducing your blood pressure as well as reducing stress on the heart by lowering the BP.

I would also advise taking both Milk Thistle(capsules: 300mgs 3 times a day with meals) and Chanca piedra or Bhumyamaliki(Phyllanthus niruri). This herb is also beneficial for hypertension and has many other wonderful protective effects on the body. CP dose is also 300mgs 3 times a day with meals. These two herbs are highly protective for both the liver and kidneys and I'm advising them in case there are any further problems with these organs, which could also perhaps contribute to your hypertension problem.

And, as I always advise, whenever you buy herbs -- only buy quality herbs that are organic or wildcrafted(with no added chemicals). The older ways of formulating herbs as a powder, tea, tincture or decoction are best and are the most trustworthy, giving the most reliable results.

My BP has been systolic 200/273. diastolic 100/120 for around 15 years now. Only in the past two years have I tried their meds, 3 different ones

3 different times. The most I lasted was 5 days, I could not believe the side effects of such small pills!

I do not take any other meds and am 77 years old. We eat organic, exercise. I follow many different natural therapies that you all talk about but nothing seems to change. I do not feel ill, only unwell if it goes as high as 270 so perhaps am fortunate. Whatever, I do know that the pills for this would finish me off real fast as my body obviously rejects what I believed to be OK. Haven't tried the Aloe Vera but will give it a try. Good luck everyone and know that toxic meds are NEVER an answer.

Hi Pam,

Here are some supplements besides my old and tried ones (potassium and magnesium, and coq10). The following have not only helped to regulate my blood pressure, but has also helped my leg to feel less numb.

I ran to the emergency room a couple of years ago for numbness in both legs upon awaking, and they did nothing, had no advice, took no tests, simply asked what my doctor had to say about it and had the nerve to sent me a bill.

Here are the supplements that made a difference in my blood pressure and otherwise, I have only been taking them about four months: Nattokinase 2000 fu and K2 Life Extensions Super K advanced complex. Also when the stress get out of hand, I hum a prayer. Soft music will probably do as well.

HisJewel

Praying4u

Try not using the baking soda with the acv, also drink a daily glass of beetroot juice or celery with melon. Make sure to use magnesium oil daily and also make sure potassium levels are balanced.

I too only use these things I will never take bp medication. Hibiscus tea twice daily is also what I take along with blackstrap molasses and a must for me is cayenne tincture three times daily it's nice to put some in your coffee or tea etc or add to molasses in warm water. Good luck

Jolole: It seems you may also be suffering Cholestasis or gallstones. This condition can cause acidosis, constipation, and hypertension. A gallbladder cleanse would be helpful. Natural remedies to increase bile flow like Dandelion Root, Burdock Root, and Yellowdock Root will help. Also drink lemon water daily (this almost always works for me; I use lemon juice concentrate and filtered water).

Hope this helps.

Flipper69, TWO tsp. Baking soda sounds like WAYYYY to much for a dose!!!!

Flipper69: I was on Lisinipril for several months for hypertension, but managed to lower by other natural means and discontinued the L. as I also have acidic condition, I mix equal parts sodium bicarbonate and sea salt for buffering w/ absolutely no sign of elevating BP (with or without Lisinipril). I use ACV w/ food or sometimes take tablets and can't make a case for lowering the B.P. It would prove useful to have the Sodium/Potassium levels checked during next Dr. visit as one might need a little extra Potassium. Eat a fruit salad daily would insure proper P. Jon Barron recommends a kidney cleanse twice yr which would help the body regulate the B.P. and more. Lisinipril is known toxic on the kidneys, so a cleans is of extra importance.

He may have fructose intolerence, apple cider vinegar will make it so much worse. Look up fructose malabsorbtion, this will cause high bp due to sending the endocrine system into overdrive trying to compensate (by lowering or raising hormone levels to attack the invader - it is no different than a food allergy) It can present at any time in life. 30 percent of the population has it, but only ten percent are symptomatic. Go LOW FODMAP; FODMAPS are an acryonm recent discovery, it breaks down food types by the sugars they convert into upon consumption; Avoid apples, pears, F is for frutans, not saying avoid all fruit, Vegetables that contain high fructose are onions, garlic, asparagus, cabbages, etc... Just those with more fructose than glucose; Some beans, like baked beans, chick peas, kidney beans, high galactans; Reduce lactose; use real butter only, lactose free ; milk; and hard cheeses only, no yogurt or soft cheeses; Avoid ALL FAT FREE AND REDUCED SUGAR AND SUGAR FREE; as these products are made from pure fructose and do convert once consumed; will deal me great issue; White sugar is best; real sugar is best; avoid all colored drinks and foods and processed foods will have garlic, onlions, MSG, INULIN... oh the list goes on; avoid them all, stick to short ingredient foods prepared at home! Hope this helps.

Do not mix any vinegar with baking soda!

Vinegar is an acid, and baking soda is a base. When you combine acids with bases, they neutralize each other, resulting in two major items which are neither acidic nor basic: water and sodium.

So, by mixing vinegar with baking soda, you're changing the therapy from a beneficial vinegar to a harmful sodium!

Steve, when you combine an acid with enough base to neutralize the acid what is obtained is the conjugate base. This is the basis behind alkalization of the body by using things like citrus fruits and vinegar. In the body the pancreas secretes bicarbonate to neutralize acid, whether it's stomach acid (HCl), vinegar, citric acid, or any other acid.

In the case of vinegar it's acetic acid bicarbonate = acetate (the conjugate base)

In the case of citrus fruit it's citric acid bicarbonate = citrate (the conjugate base)

If baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) is used then then the result is sodium acetate and sodium citrate.

So supplementing with either the conjugate base or the original acid should offer similar benefits.

When the conjugate bases are in the blood they will absorb hydrogen ions (one of the definitions of an acid) recreating the original acid. As far as acidity is concerned this is a much weaker acid than the original free hydrogen ions thereby "alkalizing" the body. The body generally uses bicarbonate/carbonic acid for this buffering system, creating carbon dioxide and water as end results. The carbon dioxide is then exhaled to maintain a proper pH. Supplementing with citric acid or vinegar, or the conjugate bases of them, helps this process in maintaining things.

As far as sodium is concerned, several recent metastudies have been released that show conclusively that low sodium diets offer no benefit to otherwise healthy individuals. What was shown was an increase in stress/inflammation factors. Cholestrol, triglycerides, adrenalin, and noradrenaline were all elevated in low sodium diets. The only benefit was an extremely marginal blood pressure drop of 1% or around a 1/2 point drop. However, it should be noted that those who are already hypertensive did experience a slightly greater drop of 3. 5% or around 4-7 points depending on what the blood pressure was to start with. On the other, hand salt really isn't the culprit in hypertension. Instead the culprit is a horrible diet of transfats, low vitamin and mineral intake, overcooked/fried food, sugar, no vegetables, no omega 3 fats, etc...

You know you have to much salt in your food when your food tastes too salty-Joel Wallach DVM, ND

I know you may not accept what I am going to say but I hope you will give it a 3 month try,,first get the book called the China Study,,this is by a scientist that did 30 years of research on food and our diseases. I suggest you try a vegan diet for 3 months,,,no animal, nothing, are you to eat,,only vegatables and only vegetables that you cook, with no oils whatsoever...you may eat rye or pumpernicle bread or make your own with whole flour..no sugar, no peanut butter or anything with oil,,no purchased prepared food with preservatives and chemicals in it. Merryanne

Robert you don't mention how much of the ACV you are using daily or if you are using the raw, unfiltered ACV with the Mother. For 3 weeks now I have been using the ACV with the Mother in it, 3 tablespoons a day with water and juice and using baking soda to bring up the ph level to 7.2. Today when I went to the Dr he took me off the Lisinopril and told me to keep doing what I am doing. From what I understand sometimes you have to stay on it for some time before you see benefits but I am not sure. Hope this helps.

Hi Robert. I don't know what specific factors are contributing to your HBP but if you try to incorporate more fruits & veggies into your diet - this will certainly help you significantly. I would also encourage you to eat garlic and cayenne pepper (the hotter the better). These two sources (along with magnesium chloride) are exceptional at lowering HBP. I know because both my parents no longer suffer from HBP (especially my mother who took meds for a while). I recommend garlic cayenne because both possess some degree of sulfur and magnesium - which, when working in tandem, are exceptional at reducing the force at which the heart has to work/pump blood systemically (systolic). Cayenne pepper (which is one of my favorite herbs/spices) is mother nature's gift for strengthening the heart. Its very rich in magnesium (which helps to induce muscle relaxation, circulation vasodilation) and garlic - known for so many different things - is very rich in sulphur compounds.

NOTE: I do want to caution u that since you are taking meds - both cayenne garlic are minimal blood thinners and thus, could be a cause for concern (for you). Check with your doctor to prevent any problems.

But as for utilizing as a remedy - I would recommend to start - trying to eat 1 raw (preferably organic) clove of garlic a day. (Yikes! I know!) but it works! I would say mince it and try it in a salad or w/ an avocado. The allicin in the garlic can oftentimes be hard on digestion. Cayenne u can basically sprinkle on anything....or if you want to go for the gusto - try a 1/4 teaspoon to 1 teaspoon in a cup of hot water or tea of your choice (ie. peppermint, chamomile, ginger, etc.) w/ lemon and some honey (per day). This is how I usually take it....but if neither appeals to u - then I say, try the diet route. I think it'll be a win-win either way.

Take care God Bless You. :0)

I ended up in emergency with chest pains and BP 177/124 - took them about 6hrs a needle of some sort and 2 aspirin and 2 blood pressure pills to get it to start coming down - at the heart clinic the next the said I would have to take BP meds - maybe forever or loose 20lbs, stop smoking - so for right now I am on 2mg of coversyl - it is coming down after a month on BP med - but I took it this afternoon - 117/86 - which is good - but I tried the AVC/baking soda and re took the reading 30 mins later - 115/82 - this is great - plan to do this every evening and will monitor results - out of the gate - works great!