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(Quoted from the book titled "Back to Eden" by Jethro Kloss, Herbalist, Author, born 1863)
Fasting
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You are a hellava lot better man than I, to put up with some of the yack that you do.
Just drank a hot herbal tea with a large shot of magnesium and going to bed. I plan to breathe deeply and see what mischief I can get into in my dreams. Just hope I don't meet up with some New Orleans Voodoo woman .
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Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda
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3 different times. The most I lasted was 5 days, I could not believe the side effects of such small pills!
I do not take any other meds and am 77 years old. We eat organic, exercise. I follow many different natural therapies that you all talk about but nothing seems to change. I do not feel ill, only unwell if it goes as high as 270 so perhaps am fortunate. Whatever, I do know that the pills for this would finish me off real fast as my body obviously rejects what I believed to be OK. Haven't tried the Aloe Vera but will give it a try. Good luck everyone and know that toxic meds are NEVER an answer.
Arginine, NAC
Art
Arginine, NAC
Arginine, NAC
It should be very soon. As soon as the other tester gives me their results I will post it. In my personal experience it is quicker and superior to Arginine/NAC/Lysine and has a longer lasting effect which I will explain in that post.
Art
Arginine, NAC
Yes, I tried a supplement that is working exceptionally well for myself and a couple of friends as well as two people from the EC community to lower our blood pressure into the normal range. We were all able to get off prescription meds. Here is a link to what I wrote about it :
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/high-blood-pressure-carditone.html
Good luck and please update us when you try it!
Art
Arginine, NAC
Alternative Treatment for HBP
Alternative Treatment for HBP
Alternative Treatment for HBP
The best way to balance your hormones is to take the full Iodine Protocol together with niacin + B vitamins on a daily basis. Take at least 500 mgs niacin twice a day at meals. You can also take the no-flush niacin -- inositol hexanicotinate which might perhaps be easier for you. Other forms of niacin such as niacinamide do not have such beneficial effects on blood pressure. Take either B50 complex or brewers yeast once a day as well.
There is some research by Dr Flechas from the Iodine Project, who describes his treatment with LI for a 320 lb lady with both thyroid problems and diabetes. After only a short while on iodine, this lady was able to completely come off her diabetes meds. What's more, she lost 70 lbs after several months on the iodine protocol. Iodine makes all hormone gland activity more efficient and also tends to make digestion, transport, assimilation and the excretion of fats more efficient in the body. I lost a tremendous amount of weight after I started taking LI, and it has stayed off.
Other protocols, such as the alkalizing protocols and the borax water protocols shown here on EC and taken on a daily basis will also help you to further balance your hormones and lower your blood pressure.
You should also avoid the combination of fats(especially veg oils), unrefined salt(use sea salt instead) and sugar in your diet.
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Alternative Treatment for HBP
Yes, I definitely would not take arginine with nac without discussing it with your doctor first.
In that study, the NAC and Arginine were not used with other blood pressure lowering drugs, but rather as a stand alone treatment. What I liked about that study was the good results and especially the benefit of all of the potential "side effects". With regular blood pressure meds, the side effects are usually negative. You'd have to read the link to see what those side benefits are, but they are numerous and good in terms of long term overall health.
What is odd to me is that there were never any followup studies on that relatively small and obscure 2008 study considering how good the results were. I guess there is no money motivation in it. If a drug company came out tomorrow with a blood pressure med that could lower blood pressure and have all of those other positive health benefits, it would be a block buster for sure!
The combination of arginine/nac is what I use to control my pressure and I add in lysine every so often to keep my arginine/lysine ratio balanced.
Good luck!
Art
Alternative Treatment for HBP
Ashwaganda is good for stress relief. Nutritional yeast for b vitamins coat nerve cells and aid digestion. Magnesium Is a heart mineral that is calming. Vitamin D with K for hormone balancing . Self Talk and media choices are very important in any crisis.
Stress appears to be an issue and I don't know your age, but I would use apple cider vinegar 1 tsp in cup of water to improve digestion and immune health. Leave the water out, no lid, for one hour and chlorine will exit before you drink it. Chlorine interferes with iodine ports in body ( like thyroid gland has one) because they are both halides .
I have said too much …..maybe. Blessing, charity
Olive Leaf
I have thought long about your post here on EC. There are no integrative doctors - they are allopathic doctors trained by Big Pharma to sell their wares. Some doctors hear their voice of conscience and try to help patients according to their inner promptings. However, if found out in not prescribing a max of meds, they will receive a warning. So many are working while silencing their conscience as it would mean a negation of all that had been washed into their brains, which they did not question boot.
Allopathy teaches about sickness and not WELLNESS
Allopathy treats your eye, foot, stomach; NOT THE WHOLE PERSON
Allopathy admits of a mind and seeks to alter it
Allopathy seeks to dominate a mind with chemicals but
IGNORES MAN'S SOUL
You and I as a human being have the gift of intuition. You live in this body and you alone can take responsibility for your health.
A doctor is a stranger. In a few minutes he can cause a lot of damage to your health by allowing so many minutes and then "next one please".
He has in mind how his earnings will be and many doctors vie among themselves who makes the most. They are obsessed with their salaries.
Much more could be said, but the choice is up to you. You have as a faculty discrimination and awareness which can be sharpened by practice and experimentation.
The main point is that chemicals and plant colloidal chemicals are a world apart. For one thing, they do not work well together and cause more damage creating a chaotic picture. And when money is the main object and not the well being of man, BEWARE. Love, Om
Deep Breathing
On any HBP issue, make sure you are getting three things; magnesium, potassium and natural (NOT synthetic) Vitamin E
500 mag
200 potassium
200 natural E ... start at low doses in E and slowly increase (over two months) to 300 then 400.
The HBP can be from thick blood; or tacky veins and arteries (all from a lack of E) or from lack of proper oxygen delivery (again lack of E). Or the HBP can be from a build up in veins and arteries of plaque. Think of a hose being squeezed at some point of blockage...it builds up pressure from the source to press the liquid through...well that is HBP and there is a reason for the pressure...the hose is blocked in some fashion. The heart itself could be a problem. Lots of possible "whys" to the pressure issue.
Natural E is my BASE for cardio help. Take those three with meals.
Also you note digestive issues with taking Apple Cider Vinegar. The opposite should be happening. ACV should be helping with that...so the post by Timh is helpful.
You also note the problem is worse when you lie down at night to sleep. Well, here's one take on that; you are not working the legs as you would during the day which could help circulate the blood BACK via the veins up to the heart. In other words the veins in legs are not working too well which lends credence that this is a circulation issue...Vitamin E to the rescue.
But given the possibility (without knowing more) I'd guess ... given the worsening at night... that varicose veins might be a matter to be addressed and a great addition would be "Horse Chestnut" which is famous for helping with that particular circulation problem too.
So I'd add that too to the three I listed. I've had great success with HC.
Dietary Changes
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Chanting
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I read on webMD that meditation with a mantra helps reduce blood pressure. I asked my dad to do an experiment. First, to take his blood pressure. He did. It was 179/76. Then I asked him to chant "Nam-myoho-renge-kyo" with me for 15 minutes (it is a Buddhist chant that means "dedication to the mystical/inexplicable Law of Cause and Effect through sound/vibration"). He only chanted for 7 minutes and then wanted to take his blood pressure again, immediately. He did, and his blood pressure was 105/67.
We tried this experiment every day for a week. Every time, it worked to lower his blood pressure.
Chanting definitely reduces blood pressure. I have also used chanting to relieve anxiety, reduce depression and to access the subconscious mind. Try it and see!!! It's free and it works.
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WORKED TEMPORARILY
I have tried Alkaline water, Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide, earthing. Oops, forgot to mention something. Whenever I cut or rake the grass for 2 or more hours, my blood pressure drops down to 111/ 68. Then 6 hours later, it starts going back up. Hmmm, I stopped earthing because I've been taking care of this 96 year old lady. If you guys can hit me back with so other alternatives, I really appreciate it. My last day of Caregiving is late May. I will reply back by the end of the Summer, maybe sooner! I'm going to try earthing for a month or two, and see how it works out. After all, Earthing is FREE, and you're pulling electrons up into your body from the ground. It's very interesting. Did you know a Free Radical is missing an Electron? Stand on the Earth barefoot, and absorb all the Electrons you want. Electrons will stabilize the Free Radicals. Earthing is like getting FREE Antioxidants! - Gotta Go, will keep in touch.
Walking
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Aloe Vera, Hibiscus Tea, Cayenne Pepper
Aloe Vera, Hibiscus Tea, Cayenne Pepper
D3
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Blood Pressure Readings
Blood Pressure Readings
Diatomaceous Earth in Lemon Juice
Hot Cocoa
"Hot Cocoa...will fix high blood pressure. I checked my resting pulse rate at 82-beats per minute resting last night. After drinking the hot chocolate, my pulse dropped to 62-beats per minute resting heart rate."
Since heart beats are *NOT* equivalent to blood pressure ... the number of heart beats does *NOT* indicate one's blood pressure.
In fact, Caffeine is actually known to *restrict* blood vessels (& thus the blood flow through blood vessels) & thus to *raise* blood pressure....
"Caffeine may cause a short...dramatic *increase* in...[BP], even if you don't have [HBP]. It's unclear what causes this spike.... The [BP] response to caffeine differs from person to person....
"Some...who regularly drink caffeinated beverages have a higher average [BP] than...those who drink none. Others who regularly drink caffeinated beverages develop a tolerance.... As a result, caffeine doesn't have a long-term effect on their [BP]...."
Be Careful With New Supplements!
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WARNING!
Serpina
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Apple and Apple Cider Vinegar
Firstly, when you were treating your systemic yeast infection you used molasses. How could that have worked considering you would be feeding them? Did it not make you retain water and gain weight?
This is a good question. Oddly enough, when I cured myself of candida and everything else, I lost alot of weight(over 25 lbs). When you alkalize, you effectively put your body into high working efficiency. Your immune system improves and your energy also improves because alkalizing and bicarbonates are specifically used in human respiration and in digestion, making these body processes much more efficient.
I also used VCO in my candida remedy on a daily basis because the saturated fats in VCO(as medium chain triglycerides) are not stored as fat in the body, but instead the unneeded saturated fat is simply excreted directly from the liver into the intestines. Normal vegetable oils or polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats(long chain triglycerides) are always stored in the body as fats. This is why I have a high regard for VCO, for me it is the safest and best edible oil in the world.
I used molasses in order to supply my body with more minerals -- specifically magnesium and potassium during my remedy. In those early days, I was an EC newbie and didn't understand that much. If I had candida now, I probably wouldn't use molasses, but would use sea salt and fulvic acid for minerals instead and would also use borax to help kill off the candida as well. I would also use hydrogen peroxide and magnesium chloride or citrate as well which I never used before(I use them now).
Secondly, you used an alkalizing formula 3X per day did you not retain water from all the sodium in the baking soda? Also would you not experience some sort of electrolyte imbalance with all that (non sea salt) type of sodium?
When most people think sodium, they think it is the big, bad enemy -- salt. But sodium is not salt. I also agree with Ted, our bodies need sodium, over 80% of our body electrolytes consist of sodium. Therefore we need sodium everyday. The scare over salt is, in my own opinion, well overplayed. As long as you use natural sea salt, you should have few sodium or salt issues.
You wont retain water using sodium bicarbonate as you would with table salt because they are completely different substances with different effects on the body. Sodium bicarbonate is NaHCO3 whereas salt is NaCl. Both have completely different behaviours in the body. Ordinary table salt has a pH = 5 whereas sea salt has a pH = 7.5 - 8.5 and is more alkaline which is why natural sea salt is so much better for you. Table salt is refined and so only contains NaCl, whereas a good natural sea salt will contain many minerals as well and has many more useful body electrolytes that are both necessary for the body as well as being alkaline and more balancing.
Why do you think so many jpoeple report weight loss here on earth clinic, with the use of ACV and water? they do not include baking soda? And one post said it (ACV and BS) made her retain water?
what are your thoughts?
Acid body conditions can lead to accumulation of fats. So can pollution of the body from heavy metals. In fact, I have read that the production and storage of fats in the body is a kind of body defence against the accumulation of heavy metals, a way for the body to hide the heavy metals safely in order to protect against their bad effects on the organs and blood.
I would also rarely use ACV without using baking soda with it. If you take ACV on its own, the acetic and malic acids in the ACV will be converted to acetate and malate salts by your digestion and then will be absorbed. So this actually depletes your body stores of sodium bicarbonates. By adding sodium bicarbonate to the ACV plus water you convert the acids to their salts BEFORE you ingest them so you save your body bicarbonates, by not having to digest and convert these acids to their salts. So you alkalize you body even more this way by saving your own bicarbonates.
The lady who gained weight using ACV might have had a problem with her kidneys or liver, we just don't know. Kidneys regulate minerals and water in the blood, she might have had a water retention problem. Fat and glucose metabolism is mainly handled by the liver, so there might have been a problem there too. Also we have no idea what her diet was and she was really one of the few cases on EC where ACV didn't help her condition.
Austrian Apple Juice
tina
Breathing Technique
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Breathing Technique
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While I don't know if this is capable of causing a lasting effect or long-term cure, I know it works for me to drop my BP, at least for a little while. Its something that I do, when I see my BP is a little too high for comfort. I, of course, closely monitor my BP to make sure it's staying in check and don't blindly trust anything.
Deep heavy breathing. Exhale everything from the lungs, then sharply/quickly inhale til lungs are full, quickly exhale til the lungs are empty, Do this a few more times, then on an inhale, hold it. It usually causes me to get lightheaded when I hold it, this is the feeling I'm aiming for. I Hold it for a good little bit. Then do it again. When I do this, I'm trying to completely saturate my blood with oxygen as much as I possibly can. I usually quickly feel very relaxed.
In my experience this is a good quick way to drop my BP a good 15-20 points off the top and at least 5 off the bottom and usually more than enough to get my BP in a safe range. Last time I did it, I was around 155/91 and dropped it to 131/84 before I stopped monitoring it, took me about 10 minutes to get there from the 155/91. May have went lower, I'm not sure.
Potassium
Could you ask your friend where they got potassium citrate (PC) in 1000 mgs? I ask because I have only ever seen PC in 99 mg capsules as that is all the FDA allows manufacturers to use.
Art
Potassium
Potassium
Potassium
Potassium chloride and sodium bicarbonate won't react to give you potassium bicarbonate.
I buy food grade potassium bicarbonate from a local source "The Sourcery" which is much cheaper than suppliers I find on eBay or Amazon.
The Sourcery - Potassium Bicarbonate
Every morning I mix 8 gm of potassium bicarbonate and 9 gm of vit C powder with more than half cup of water, and drink the whole lot in one go.
9 grams of vitamin C is my "bowel tolerance", to me about 15 minutes after consuming I will have to use the toilet once, and twice at most within the whole morning.
BP Readings Over the Decades
People often do ridiculous things for the petty purpose of pride maintenance. Self-righteously throwing their own children under a bus is just one of many of those things.
B6, Folic Acid, and B12
Fermented Foods
Magnesium
★★★★★
There is much research and information out there as to this health issue of blood pressure. I read one book from 2004 titled, "The Magnesium Solution", by Jay S. Cohen, MD and then discovered just how many books have been published with information on how well magnesium etc. supplements have saved the lives of many. I purchased this small book and was amazed at how informative it was. You may want to delve into the huge amount of literature there is out there concerning the advantages of Mg+ along with K+, Ca+ et al since your site supports nutritionally educating the public.
There is also a site titled, 'MedicationSense.com mentioned in said book as well.
Kind regards. Elaine
Dietary Changes
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Salt
Salt
Exercise
Oh, and then while I was laying still on the table (they called it a "stretcher" which freaked me out more) I had a full blown panic attack. I started trembling all over real bad. I counted the minutes and it lasted 20 min which is what they typically do. Have not had a panic attack in a yr, but I was freaking out.
On the blood pressure paper for the machine it says to wait 4-5 min before taking blood pressure again because the veins need to get back to normal or the low reading will not be accurate. I wait 5-7 min but usually take bl pr 7-10 x a day to see if pill and/or Apple Cider Vinegar is working. Not sure yet, but at least am out of the woods. I am older like 65, only ten lbs over weight, but lost 4. Go get a mini trampoline and bounce gently for 20 min a day. Helps blood pressure. Even doc at hosp said to exercise and it would help lower bl pr. Cheap ones are available, but I have a good one cost $200. Do it 20-30 min 4 days a wk. Back hurts so can't do longer. At 20 min the lymph nodes clear out so it helps the immunity.
Deep Breathing
Yesterday while waiting for the doctor to show up, because hospitals will not do a stress test unless a doctor is available. There I was, all hooked up, bored, and just watching the monitor. I decided to play a game. I began to change my breathing to see how that affected my pulse rate. Amazing, as Dr Shallenberger was right on point. I spent about 45 minutes raising and lowering my pulse rate just by the way I was breathing. I was able to take it down to the 60's or up to the 80's.
I guess this is what is known as bio-feed back.
I now think that the way we breathe is important to our overall health. Yep, you have to get oxygen, but you also have to maintain a certain amount of CO2 and you do that by breathing slower. I am just smart enough on this subject to be dangerous.
What is my point? The way you breath affects your overall health and I can't help you........... so READ.
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