Effective Natural Remedies for High Blood Pressure Management

Eggplant Water

Posted by Inannalives (Middletown De) on 01/24/2014
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My son in law has been successfully keeping his "uncontrollable" blood pressure in normal range by drinking 2-4 ozs of Eggplant Water daily. He was taking 2 different blood pressure meds and got sick of the side effects. Every week he skins an eggplant and puts it in a gallon container and fills it up with distilled water. He keeps it in the fridge for 2 days before he starts to drink it. There are times when he has added a little more water when he has taken a couple of doses. He keeps it in the fridge at all times. Before it is finished he starts a new one so he will never run out. He is so happy and he looks so much better. He has been doing this for almost a year. His success has made him a believer in the healing power of God's Pharmacy. I hope this post can bring health and happiness to someone else.

Eggplant Water

Posted by Rebel (Somewhere Usa) on 01/26/2014

How does he do this exactly... you say he skin s and eggplant. So does the skin go in the water or does the eggplant go in the water after being skinned? And two to four oz daily, how long will it stay good for? At 4 oz a day it would take 36 days to drink a gallon. I am very interested to know how this is done.

Thank You, Rebel

Eggplant Water

Posted by Inannalives (Middletown, De) on 01/29/2014

Rebel......He cuts the skin off of the eggplant, throws it away, and places the eggplant in a gallon pitcher and then pours the distilled water into the pitcher. On the dosage I was off, he drinks 4 to 6 ozs morning and night. If you email me at universal.spirits @ hotmail.com I will give you his information so you can contact him directly.

Eggplant Water

Posted by Bamp (Toronto, Ontario) on 02/10/2014

This is in response to Inannalives from Middletown, De.

Can you let me know how high was his blood pressure before he began drinking the water and how quickly did he see results and what kind of results did he see? My husband has high blood pressure and we would like to check this out.

Eggplant Water

Posted by Peter (Illinois) on 02/17/2014

To Dave from S.C Foutain View S.C.

My wife is on dialysis 3 times per week and her blood pressure is around 200 without medication. She is in her mid 50 and waiting for transplant. How should I utilize above remedy and her medication at the same time ? What is your opinion on the remedy? She has to take HBlood medication twice a day to get under control. Can you suggest how should I incorporate this into her schedule? Thanks Dave in Advance.

I just try to cut down regular medication as much as possible. Do you accept private email?

Medication Weaning

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/22/2014

Ever since the doctor put me on beta blocker since they scared me into it and I had no idea that there were natural things I could have taken. I searched for things for myself since the medication wasn't even working that well.. I stupidly waited for the meds to work better but they didnt So I started using Olive Leaf, ACV and beet root and Taurine and magnesium. My bp and heart rate is much lower and I so want to cut these tabs in half but I am afraid ... The doctors won't help as we all know as I have asked last visit..I can't seem to cut them in quarters. pills are way too small.

Should I or can I just cut these tabs in half for a few weeks? I check my bp everyday and all throughout the day and even drinking water brings it down.....so I know how to control it myself....and yes I know the deal surrounding beta blockers, so please only positive comments will be helpful as I am dealing with enough stress right now.... Thank You

Medication Weaning

Posted by Kelly (Cambridge, Ma) on 01/22/2014

I would like to second Bee's interest in this topic as I am in a similar quandary. I have read much about Hawthorn for lowering BP and would love to try it, but (as with Bee), my doctor cautions against it and therefore won't help me transition.

I have tried other methods - ACV w/ the mother, celery seed, cayenne, etc. with only minimal success.

I currently take 25mg of extended release Metoprolol and would love to get off of it altogether, but don't want to do myself more harm than good. I have already tried taking a half-dose for a week, hoping that if I could manage on 12.5mg's, that the leap to Hawthorn would be a smaller one, but my BP was all over the place that week, which, along with my MD's scare tactics, did in fact, scare me.

All insight will be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much!

Medication Weaning

Posted by Prioris (Fl) on 01/22/2014

One review published last year in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology even concluded that “there is a paucity of data or absence of evidence to support use of beta-blockers as … first-line agents [for high blood pressure].”

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/06/07/more-drugs-that-kill-you.aspx

Read the comment posts at the bottom of Dr.mercola's article. it seems not many people have problems stopping them.

P.S. in my last post I misunderstood your post

Medication Weaning

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/22/2014

Prioris, Well thank you but I have read some people wean off this and they say has to be slow but I have no idea.. I would love to skip a night.. I am 59 and female and had four drugs before this one.. this one doesn't work all that well either so why bother when natural things work so much better.

Anyway; yes I would love to see what is best. right now I am taking 50mgs. in morning and 50 at night but it was all a mistake .. Long story because at that time I had extreme high bp and stress and now its sooooooo much better.. plus I don't take the time release one.. They are really hard to cut also but there is a line in them to cut in half. I think doctors would keep people on drugs forever. heck the doctor I saw who was only 47 told me she has been on calcium channel blockers for 20 years. I was like what??? I was shocked...

Medication Weaning

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/22/2014

Hi Kelly,

well I think it takes much longer than a week to stabilize your meds if you just started to try alternatives.. Anyway; did you read that there is an interaction between beta blockers and Hawthorne and that is one reason I didn't try the Hawthorne.. some meds interact with natural so that is why I tried the magnesium oil, beet root powder, olive leaf and ACV.. when I am at home I take one tablespoon 3x day of ACV in water.. spread it out throughout the day.. The olive leaf I take one tablespoon two or three times a day.. I do 1 tablespoon of beet root powder a day...My high bp is def. nerves and stress and that is a challenge for me.. oh; I also take two 500 mgs. of Taurine a night before bed. It sounds like a lot but I am trying to see what works the best for me and then do process of elimination or add. All I know is that the meds alone were not working and I found out too late and concerned now.. I did lose a lot of weight and change diet and drink more water and revamped my life and that worked well also but I did gain back 15lbs. of the 35 I lost and right away the bp shot up.. amazing right?? so with diet and exercise and getting rid of stress it would work for a lot of people.. Like the other poster said each of us is different and have to find our way....

What also works is acupressure..

When I go out I put a few tablespoons of ACV in water and just drink it throughout the day...

Medication Weaning

Posted by Mike62 (Denver) on 01/22/2014

Bee and Kelly: When I was sick the diseases got into my nervous system that was already shot from being poisoned by toxic fumes and made me scared and schizophrenic. I was nervous and had stormy chaotic thoughts. Fortunately for me I did not go to the Doc because I couldn't wait for a long time at the free clinic so I wasn't on any meds. The first thing you can do is set the goal of functioning at peak performance and eventually getting off the meds cause they are toxins that poison. Just suffering while surviving is not much fun. The next thing you can do is experiment. Take 1 new thing at a very low dose and cut back a very small percentage of the meds. Evaluate the way this makes you feel and make adjustments. The products I would recommend would be sunflower lecithin, black chia, organic apples, raw cocoa powder, Hawaiian spirulina, desiccated liver, colostrum, non denatured whey isolate, expeller pressed coconut oil, raw wildflower honey, organic whole sugars, green smoothies from organic baby leaves, skate liver oil, and 90, 000hu cayenne. If you have not been supplementing with d3 then scroll down to my earlier post vitamin b-1 for proper d3 loading.

Medication Weaning

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/22/2014

Thank you and that sounds good but my diet and lifestyle are really good and I add and subtract as I go..adding natural things and good organic food and veggies and water and such.. I don't eat meat and don't like it..so I take Taurine..

Now when you say cut this or that for me it's challenging because the pills are very very small and I can basically cut in half and that is it.. If I cut in thirds it will just crumble and nothing will be left.. so that is my main dilemma..

Medication Weaning

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/23/2014

I do use spirulina and lecithin and I take Vit.D, E and use fish oil and beet root powder and ACV and magnesium and Olive Leaf and eat organic fruits and veggies and have a very clean diet... I walk when its warm and dance but have slacked off a bit.. drink a lot of water and do acupressure and do not eat processed foods or fast food...I also drink lemons in water a few times a week ..I also eat chia seeds and use cayenne pepper and cinnamon.. and turmeric and I take probiotics.. sometimes I use zinc . Oh; and I take astragulus root and motherwort....I also drink a lot of organic herbal teas such as dandelion root and Holy basil and some calming teas.

Yes I add and subtract and experiment the best I can.

I am going to see an integrative doctor which is going to cost 300.00 but maybe she can tell me exactly what I need or am missing. It gets rather frustrating not knowing what is best.. some things I just cant figure out myself..thinking since I am 59 and female I might need bioidentical hormones..and of course doctors online recommend omega fatty acids but I eat fish.. I mean how much can we take?? Thank You

Olive Leaf

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/15/2014

Hello, I am a 59 year old female taking olive leaf to lower blood pressure but wondering how long can I take it? Been reading and seeing different reports. The health food guy said I can only take it temporarily as it damages your gut.. is this true? Thank You

Olive Leaf

Posted by Prioris (Fl) on 01/15/2014

Besides the doctor telling you to lower your blood pressure, why do you want to lower it? If it is for heart disease, take nattokinase.

Olive Leaf

Posted by Mike62 (Denver) on 01/16/2014

Bee: There are not any harmful substances in olive leaf. Many people in the Mediterranean drink several cups a day all their lives.

Olive Leaf

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/16/2014

Re: Olive leaf -- wow thank you. I will keep taking it then ..

Olive Leaf

Posted by Prioris (Fl) on 01/16/2014

Why not get to the root of the high blood pressure problem.

Here's an excerpt from Harvard Medical School's newsletter...

MYTH 3: It's okay to have higher blood pressure when you're older.

Blood pressure tends to rise with age, but the fact that this trend is "normal" doesn't mean that it is good for you. It happens because artery walls become stiff with age. Stiff arteries force the heart to pump harder. This sets up a vicious cycle. Blood pounding against the artery walls damages them over time. The overworked heart muscle becomes less effective and pumps harder to meet the body's demands for blood. This further damages the arteries and invites fat into the artery walls. This is how high blood pressure increases the risk of heart attack and stroke.

Source: http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletters/Harvard_Heart_Letter/2013/June/10-myths-about-heart-disease

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Vitamin K maintains normal coagulation, preserves bone, and protects against calcification by carboxylating specific proteins in the body.61

In the arteries, vitamin K is required to carboxylate matrix Gla-protein. If matrix Gla-protein is under-carboxylated, then it is unable to perform its normal function in protecting arteries against excess accumulation of calcium, or inhibiting vascular calcification.

Source: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2009/jan2009_Vitamin-K-Protection-Against-Arterial-Calcification-Bone-Loss-Cancer-Aging_03.htm

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Most Nattokinase usually has some vitamin K in it. You could take additional vitamin K also. Many people who want to lower their blood pressure only because they are told. They really don't know why.

Olive Leaf

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/16/2014

Well at first I thought it was my age and that I was overweight at the time with a bad diet and under extreme stress at the time.. So of course the doctor put me on meds.. But then I lost 35 lbs. which I have gained back half .. Now when I lost the weight, changed my diet and cut back on bad foods and salt and started walking everyday my bp came down.. Oh; and I was handling my stress much better.. Only thing as soon as I gained the weight my top number went up to 140 .. but then since the meds were not working I decided to try natural things such as Taurine.. I am a vegetarian so I am missing amino acids. what could It hurt? the man in healthfood store gave me magnesium, taurine, beet root and olive leaf. So I figured what could it hurt.. So after taking these things bp is stabilized.. doctors say bp is complicated but for me I believe its stress and since I am 59 could be age.. and yes rusty arteries.. So now I am trying to figure it all out and get to the root of it but how does one find out? No regular doctor cares or will help so I am going to an alternative doctor and see if she can see what kinds of things I should be on.

Olive Leaf

Posted by Prioris (Fl) on 01/17/2014

Let me correct what I said previously. Most Nattokinase brands remove K2 but some include it. One brand that included it was named "Natural Vitamin K2 with Nattokinase."

A better route to go for arterial calcification problem would be to add something like the Life Extension brand - Super K ...

Their rationale for removing K2 is so it won't interact with prescription medications. Some brands will actually tout that they remove it while other brands remain silent. There is a lack of consistent labeling.

Olive Leaf

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/17/2014

Hi, well I have found K2 with nattokinase from a company I already get products from. It just says do not take with blood thinners. I am not on those .. Anyway.. I believe I also have gallbladder issues so using lemons and ACV and probiotics and lecithin.. I have to say when I wake in morning and take the ACV my blood pressure readings are good.. That is before medication.. So I am thinking the ACV is cutting the fat and stuff in my body and working on clearing the arteries along with lemons. could that be true? maybe the lecithin is doing that also...

I would love to get off these meds that don't work but now I am afraid to wean off myself so lets see if an alternative doctor can help me figure out what I should do. its pricey but what else can I do?

thank You for your time and responses.. so appreciated.

Oh; and thank you EC...

Olive Leaf

Posted by Prioris (Fl) on 01/17/2014

In regards to "No regular doctor cares or will help". Exactly. this is what motivates a lot of people to become DIY-ers (Do It Yourself-ers).

If you can find and afford alternative health doctor then you have some luxury. Many can't so they have to take personal responsibility and just research the problem themselves. Doctors themselves are heavily regulated and compromised so that could prevent them from giving you the best advice.

The problem with blood pressure measurements is that they are not reliable. As far as stress, it is normal for arteries to constrict during stress so I wouldn't worry about that problem. If it were a real problem, you would have been dead a long time ago.

If you combine hard arteries and stress then it would be a problem so remove or prevent the hard arteries. Supple arteries help withstand stress more.

The core issue with blood pressure is with aging people who have hardening of the arteries. If you got normal blood pressure but hard arteries you still got a problem. Curing or preventing hard arteries will address the underlying problem. If you don't get enough sunlight, you may want to think about adding some vitamin D with the K2.

One way or another - hopefully you get off the prescription medications. Once your off, try to stay off by finding alternatives,

Olive Leaf

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/17/2014

Yes I agree and I do take Vit.D.... I will def. look into K but is L Ariginine the same thing? I get my best advice from an 85 year old working woman at the health food store.

Anyway; Yes I do understand about the conventional doctors and how they are regulated and I am doing alternatives things and will continue..

One natural or integrative doctor I called wants 300.00 for a first visit and then not sure what after that.. it could be worth it if I just say I want off these pills and do it safely and the right way and if she will help me get off the meds. If not I wont return.. she also can offer natural things I am assuming and help me in figuring out what a 59 year old woman should take as natural supplements. Thank You and yes I am helping myself and finding things on my own.

Olive Leaf

Posted by Mike62 (Denver) on 01/17/2014

Bee: To function at peak performance you can take a complete raw whole food program that involves organic produce, grass fed animal products, super foods, home brewed water kefir, fermenting adaptogens, mushroom extracts, earthing, and spring water. The cost would be $12 to $15 per day.

Olive Leaf

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/20/2014

Hi, thank you for the feedback.. yes I use sea salt here and there. I really don't like salt all that much but I do eat foods with it.. I also realize salt doesn't hurt us in moderation.

Well my bp has been pretty stable for awhile so not sure I need anything else for now besides what I have been using...but I will look into K and the other things you mentioned. One reason I want to see a integrative doctor.. maybe they can tell me exactly what I need cause I just do it by trial and error and experiment.. About two months ago I started using ACV, . Lecithin, Taurine, Magnesium and beet root powder and olvie leaf...once in while I use motherwort .. All of these things are working for the bp..

Thank You and thank you EC..

Olive Leaf

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/28/2014

I made an appt. with a integrative doctor a few months ago and she didn't have an apt. until feb.. Well that is next month and not sure I should cancel. The initial first fee is 300.00 without lab work.. Now I go to a clinic and its very poor care but better than nothing.. I have no insurance and just thinking maybe she can tell me what to do or take and set me on right path and then be done with doctors only I am an aging 59 year old woman and who knows?? I know you cant put a price on health but is this crazy??

Plus do any doctors really care about patients?? Any advice??

Olive Leaf

Posted by Prioris (Fl, Usa) on 01/29/2014

Is this about getting off beta blockers?

Olive Leaf

Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile Tn.) on 01/29/2014

HI U BEE, , , , , , , , , , , , What you need to understand is that you are directed by BIG PHARMA AND THE AMA to go to Allopathic doctors. To force you to do that , no insurance company will pay a Naturopathic. This is left to you. I will not express what is now going through my mind least my EC boss will chastise me. It's a womb to the tomb thing. Just glad I's going out at 92 and will not have to endure the coming Alinsky mind set.

=========OLE ROBERT HENRY=============

Olive Leaf

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/30/2014

Thanks for the replies .. will try and answer one by one..

well I do live in NY and doctors around here are very pricey and one either pays out of pocket these high costs just to get information or goes to a clinic where the care is okay but I feel it is sub par..

Now I do the best I can with my health and yes I read all I can on EC but sometimes I need validation if I am doing the right thing.. So just figuring should I just go once and get my whole health thing in check and make sure I am using and taking the right things..? I mean if that doesn't work I can always go somewhere else and back to the clinic.

You guys are right in that main stream medicine does not believe in much. I told the doctor at the clinic that I was taking ACV, taurine and some other things and they look at me with three heads and say well we are not under regulation there so we cant offer anything and blah blah blah..take this medicine and go away..

I would love to find a middle of the road doc who believes in both but again its probably very pricey.. where I live the deal is rich or poor.. cant move right now so I have to find some balance.. Right now my balance is integrating alternative with the other but I do that on my own and have given no advice from anyone.. just reading and experimenting here on EC..and experimenting with my own self.. I just don't know if it is the right fit for me .. I make it up as I go...

Being an aging woman at almost 60 thinking let me get this right for a change and thinking I need help just once or twice..and then I can move on on my own or go to a doctor who doesn't cost so much...

Thank you for the info..

Olive Leaf

Posted by Bee (Ny) on 01/31/2014

Yes P, I am hoping some doctor especially an integrative one can tell me what to take that is right for me. so far I am experimenting on my own and doing good but once in awhile I would like to make sure I am doing right thing.

Maybe this doctor can tell me if I need beta blockers or can wean off or integrate whatever. In the beginning of this journey the meds alone weren't even working that well and I stupidly believed that they could.. Well after some time I added natural things and they seem to be working together now.. Too bad I found out too late and hoping I didn't damage anything.. but that is me for believing doctors and being stupid.. I usually am up with these things but those docs scared me a lot and kept blaming me that their stupid medicine didn't work.. I did take matters into my own hands and the complimentary doctors wont even budge in helping me but again this is a clinic with sub par care ..

So I would love to hear what an integrative doctor says.

Olive Leaf

Posted by Mike62 (Denver) on 01/31/2014

Bee: I always enjoy reading you because of the absolutely amazing way you put thoughts together. I was poisoned by toxic fumes and wish I could do that as well as you do. You remind me of me a while back. For 5 years I took isolated supplements and herbal remedies. I wasn't sick anymore but continued to suffer from fatigue. Everything was a struggle. After watching some raw food videos I went on a 90% raw organic vegan and 10% raw grass fed animal products program, except when my dear beloved brother gives me the best tasting food in the whole world for my birthday, smoked wild caught Alaskan salmon. I felt better but not great. I did not have the enthusiasm and spontaneity of a 6 year old or the hormones of a 16 year old. Then I discovered something that was way better than everything else put together including the best super foods. Organic baby leaves have growth factors, steroids, and hormones not in anything else. Today I walked 30 minutes, rested for 30 minutes, 8 times. My body buzzed like a bee the whole time. I take 8oz daily in green smoothies because the nutrients are locked up in the cellulose. I hope this info assists you in feeling great all the time.

Olive Leaf

Posted by Gil (Pennsylvania) on 07/16/2024

Organic baby leaves of what?

Olive Leaf

Posted by Bee (New York) on 01/31/2014

Okay so you are saying all doctors are the same? Holistic and conventional and naturopaths.. they all want to just give us drugs? I don't understand some of your post.

So are you also saying never to see a doctor .. I would have loved that and I hadn't been to a doctor in like five years until two years ago when I had some horrible symptoms of shortness of breath, severe fatigue and a lot of coughing so I had to finally break down and see a doctor because I had no idea what was wrong. At that time I couldn't diagnose myself. So off I went to the clinic due to NO insurance.. They diagnosed me with hbp so of course I went on some medication and was monitored for a whole year.. Now what I didn't know at the time was that the meds were not working so well but I didn't piece it together so I lost a lot of weight and I changed and revamped my diet to more healthy and lifestyle more healthy..my bp went down but heck I am almost 59 so attributed this to age and stress .. At that time I had a lot of stress..After awhile I started reading more about health and wellness and I went on a quest to feel better and get well.. Only thing I didn't still connect the dots to the meds not working so well and I was stupid in still believing that they would. I was then put on the beta blockers for anxiety and all and I had no idea what they were. Like I said before the doctors scared me into them .. Fast forward to this year and started taking other things to lower the bp that worked way better than the meds in which I wish I had figured out way back but okay I didn't.. Plus I am learning how to control the anxiety and all.

Now I am thinking though it might be time for lab work or something just to see what is going on but believe me if I didn't have to see any doctor it would be fine with me.. I just at times would like to see what is going on I guess because of the aging process..but I dont know. do I really need to ??

I basically dont even go in for routine screenings and always refuse them..but I do try and keep a vegetarian diet and keep my body as alkaline as possible and knowing exercise and diet are a good way for wellness and taking certain amino acids and vitamins and minerals..

I have no idea what else to do except for what I am doing. Now to just get off these bp meds..

Olive Leaf

Posted by Bee (New York) on 02/01/2014

Mike 62from Denver

Ha ha not sure what you mean about my writing but thank you for the compliment I think? LOL

Anyway; which post are you referring too?

I feel like I am writing so much but I get so much great info on here and I love EC and the recommendations.

Thank you all and EC

Now in regards to those hpb pills its so challenging to cut them and now I am afraid it wont work well... OY VEI

Olive Leaf

Posted by Kay (In The Valley) on 02/01/2014

Mike62 from Denver, can you tell us what is meant by 'organic baby leaves'? What type of leaves are these, is this a supplement, or do you grow plants and eat the budding leaves? I'm curious about this. Thanks, Kay

Olive Leaf

Posted by Om (Hope Bc Canada) on 02/01/2014

Hi, Bee --- but you are on the right track! Forget about aging and enjoy every moment. Listen to your body and learn what is going on. My ideal is intuitive healing. Just think of the many wonderful doctors in the past who did not rely on tests but on their experience and expertise. Today it is mainly a mechanistic approach that makes accessibility not possible for many.

I definitely touched only on the allopathic system which has driven good healers underground, closed the many schools of natural medicine and is forcing people to pay dues to big pharma alone. Good men who have cured large numbers of sick people are in jail or had to leave the country.

Ultimately it should be everyone's right to choose a healing system so desired. Ayurveda, Chinese Medicine, while thousands of years old -- these are under pressure. This should never be. Might is not necessarily right. Namaste, Om

Olive Leaf

Posted by Mike62 (Denver) on 02/01/2014

Kay: They are in all grocery stores. They come in 1lb tubs and an open section where you can put some in a bag. They are called baby herbs and baby spring mix. I buy the 1/2 baby leaves and 1/2 baby spinach, organic. They are the Frank Sinatra of food, the best of the best. They made an exhausted old buck like me feel like an exuberant young fawn. They have growth factors, steroids, and hormones not in any other food. They cured the arthritis and chronic fatigue that I suffered from for over a decade in just 3 days.

Olive Leaf

Posted by Kay (In The Valley) on 02/04/2014

Thank you Mike62 from Denver, I appreciate you're getting back to me, I'm going to try it.

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Posted by Bee (New York) on 02/11/2014

Hello Me Again!!

I am using 2 tablespoons of ACV a day, 500 mgs. of Taurine but sometimes I take two at night before bed.. I also use olive Leaf and Magnesium and beet root powder.

I was told by a woman in health food store to use the ACV before meals for my digestive issues and then take 2 probiotics after meals.. Well I am feeling a lot better with that and now wondering was my digestive issues which could have been blocked or something the cause of the hbp... Of course I am on the pills and want to get off but am scared of trying it alone as they are beta blockers.. Only thing when I wake up morning my pulse and bp have come down a lot....stomach feeling like its being cleared but is this the ACV and the probiotics together??

So now wondering I can eliminate something or cut down on something and is it the Taurine helping so much or the other things.. yes I get so confused easily and not sure its my nerves or the digestive issues or fact I am almost 60 and having these issues...

thank you

Olive Leaf

Posted by Marie (Batavia, Ny) on 04/03/2016

You are right about the k2. I recently read about it and ordered two bottles. The arginine did not work for me. I took 6 grams a day in divided doses for four whole months and bl pr still high. Doing Apple Cider Vinegar now and soon the k2. I am older at 65 so I am sure my arteries are stiff.

Olive Leaf

Posted by Rose (South England) on 09/22/2016

Please do NOT go on any beta-blockers. I was left on that drug for 7 years, and it finished my legs. I have M.E. and apparently, it was the worst drug to be put on.

Olive Leaf

Posted by Bp Help! (Nm) on 12/04/2017

Hi Bee, I was wondering if you ever were able to get off your HBP meds? if so could you share how? Forgive me for replying on such an old post, I am trying to read through all that there is here on EC. would appreciate anything you have figured out to help.

Deep Breathing

Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 11/17/2013 2048 posts

Shadel: If your bp is dangerously high I would request a different presc. med that you can tolerate well. I take Lisinipril w/ no bad side effects. This is a hunch on my part as to the cause of your bp spiking fallowing sleep. Sleep is a time that the body regulates homeostasis mechanisms, particularly hormones. You may want to have dr check or recommend an endocrinologist to check hormone levels. But for simplicity sake you may want to try taking some ACV twice daily to help metabolism and clean a possible clogged gallbladder (which causes excess estrogen in the bloodstream). Also, try taking 500-1000mg L-Methionine to help the metabolism of excess fat (how are your cholesterol levels?). Lemon juice is also good for improving digestion. If you have a portable mp3 player try to find or buy harmonic tones for lowering bp naturally. One I use is called "blood pressure lowering binaural beats"; I haven't done direct measuring but this harmonic does seem to help. Celery is recommended for bp lowering. A stick or two 2 hrs before bed might help.

Deep Breathing

Posted by Shadel (Nebraska) on 11/18/2013

To Timh, Ky, USA. Have tried the vinegar and it gives me diarrhea. Thought maybe that would be the answer. I have also tried 12 to 15 different prescription drugs, including lisinopryl. Gave me so many side effects, like feeling faint to nausea. More or less given up on pre. drugs. I can and do take Atenolol, but it gives me insomnia at times. My cardiologist informed me 95% of prescriptions for hbp do cause insomnia. Still looking for the right answer; however, doing better each night. Taking Co-Q10 and Cardio complex and multivitamin. So, what is involved in seeing an endocronolgist? Thanks for your advice on this. Appreciated! Love Earth Clinic and so much information.

Deep Breathing

Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 11/19/2013 2048 posts

Shadel: Thanx for the additional info. Diarrhea from ACV admits some type infection or possibly parasitic infestation. Low tolerance to more than one prescription or otc drugs admits Liver/Gallblader dysfunction or disease. looks like liver inflammation which would show up on "liver panel" blood test. Excess estrogen would also indicate liver/gall dysfunction.

First, have a "liver function test" done by your dr and come back here for additional advise. Many people come here and get much help w/ liver disease as given the correct treatment the liver can regenerate healthy.

Grape Seed Oil

Posted by James W (Nc ) on 09/08/2020

How much did you take, and how often?

Supplements

Posted by Beberobozo ( New York) on 11/06/2013

Hello, would anyone recommend adding L-Arginine for HBP along with what I am taking now? I am now taking Taurine, magnesium, acv, olive leaf ..I am 59 and female and mostly vegetarian diet but do eat fish about three times a week.....reading conflicting reports on the L Arginine....

Supplements

Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 11/06/2013 2048 posts

Beberobozo: Arginine is indicated to lower bp thru a mechanism called nitric oxide which dilates blood vessels and improves blood flow. Arginine also boost growth hormone production and increases the size and activity of the thymus gland (which improves immunity). Arginine rich food is almost all nuts. So I would recommend particularly Walnuts as they are also high in EPA's or "good fats" which is very much indicated for cardiovascular health.

Prune Water

Posted by Ed2010 (Canada) on 10/30/2013
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The main cause of High Blood Pressure is mineral imbalance. Not because of high sodium alone. Other causes are high fat in Blood. Remember the physics, thick fluid requires more pressure to flow.

For High blood pressure,

Soak 5 dried prunes overnight in a glass of water. Early in the morning drink this water alone, no need to eat the prune. The nutritients in the prune gets extracted in the water. Prune is high in Potassium.

You can see a huge difference in the second day. This is a Unani Medicine Treatment. If you don't get Dried Prune try with Dried Plum.

Good Health.

Coenzyme Q10

Posted by Gdhealed (Connecticut ) on 01/30/2017

I gave a family member who was on blood pressure medicine Ubiquinol: a very good brand highly absorbable, with safflower oil. After taking it, one day he dropped to his knees. Taken to emergency room he was told his blood pressure was very low. I did not know his medication prior to giving him ubiquinol. I agree with everything else in the post. How many milligrams of CoQ10 can be taken with BP medicine?

Maybe because Ubiquinol is more absorbable form of CoQ10 makes a difference? Also, same product taken by a woman with heart condition aND subject to lung blood clots caused profuse sweating. Why?

I agree with this post regarding conventional med prescribed which is why I continue with vit, and supplements.

General Remedy Guidelines

Posted by John T (Manchester, N.J. Usa) on 06/23/2013

If I decide to try a remedy for, say, high blood pressure and I am already taking prescription medicine, do I stop taking my meds when I start trying the remedies?

General Remedy Guidelines

Posted by Prioris (Fort Pierce, Fl, Usa) on 06/24/2013

You are supposed to discontinue the medication for however long it takes for that medication to become minimized in your system. Usually it takes between 2 to 5 days so 3 days should be enough.

I would recommend that you forget about blood pressure and focus on cleaning your arteries. See my post under peripheral artery disease regarding nattokinase.

General Remedy Guidelines

Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 06/25/2013 2048 posts

John: You need to be more specific than "prescription medicine" as the topic is entirely about specifics. Although in general common remedies like ACV do not have any interaction with drugs, but you may experience an even lower than normal pressure reading, in which case you would need to reduce the mg of your medication. Also, do read the entirety of "drug interactions and warnings" on your prescription; NEVER take pharmaceutical meds without first reading the info monograph.

General Feedback

Posted by Franko (Perth, Australia) on 11/20/2012

As recommended I used the combination (mixed in a mixer) as a high blood pressure remedy. Used 1 or 2 sticks of Aloe /minus the thorns/, 1 lemon, 1tbs of honey, 1 banana, every morning on an empty stomach for over a month. My Blood Pressure is around 150/100 for around 35 yrs. Never used medications. had no side effects, It made no difference in my blood pressure at all. Maybe helped with my gastritis.

Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda

Posted by Flipper69 (Kenai Peninsula, Alaska, USA) on 10/28/2012

How safe is it to use two teaspoons of baking soda with 1 teaspoon of bsmu in 8oz of water if that person has high blood pressure? Is there a substitute with low or no sodium baking soda? Can it be used with the same effect as regular baking soda?

If they use the above concoction, is it safe to add 2 teaspoons of organic Apple Cider Vinegar to it and would it help with the high blood pressure problem. They are taking 40mg of lisinopril every day.

Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda

Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 10/29/2012

Flipper69, TWO tsp. Baking soda sounds like WAYYYY to much for a dose!!!!

Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda

Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 10/29/2012 2048 posts

Flipper69: I was on Lisinipril for several months for hypertension, but managed to lower by other natural means and discontinued the L. as I also have acidic condition, I mix equal parts sodium bicarbonate and sea salt for buffering w/ absolutely no sign of elevating BP (with or without Lisinipril). I use ACV w/ food or sometimes take tablets and can't make a case for lowering the B.P. It would prove useful to have the Sodium/Potassium levels checked during next Dr. visit as one might need a little extra Potassium. Eat a fruit salad daily would insure proper P. Jon Barron recommends a kidney cleanse twice yr which would help the body regulate the B.P. and more. Lisinipril is known toxic on the kidneys, so a cleans is of extra importance.

Chanting

Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 09/05/2012 2048 posts

Xia, I have been listening to some harmonics and occasional chants on YouTube. Question: does one need only "listen" to the chants or must also actively vocalize the chants ?

Chanting

Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 09/05/2012

Hi Xia and Timh, I have spent much time chanting although not so much these days. My guru was Baba Muktananda and I loved chanting! It is part of the Siddha tradition and the chants were in sanskrit. My response regarding chanting is to actively participate and you will feel the vibration lift you within. I know that just listening to chants or playing them also raises the vibrational field but how you feel when you actually participate is so uplifting at least in my experience. I would encourage you to try that Timh and see if you feel your vibration change. Best to you always, Lisa

Chanting

Posted by Xia (Los Angeles, Ca) on 09/05/2012

Listening is very calming although I never actually checked to see if just listening would have the same effect on lowering blood pressure. I'll have to test that out! Vocalising the chant is the best way to feel the full effect of the vibrational change. It's analogous to tuning in to a radio frequency, or plugging in to a source of electricity: someone else can tune in to their own radio station or turn on their own lightswitch and you can overhear the music or observe the light but it's not quite the same as activating it yourself.

Chanting

Posted by Heather (Leicester ) on 09/05/2012

Yes chanting works, it is very powerful if repeated constantly as you go about your day.. Try 'thank you for my healing' it is like prayer x

Medication Warning

Posted by Alice (Nm, Usa) on 07/11/2014
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I can validate the warning about Metoprolol. I was on it 25mg 1xdaily for less than two months. I had multiple side effects also. Coughing, panic attacks, visual hallucinations, depression, crying spells, and more. Thought I was going crazy as well. This is a dangerous drug. Beware!

Fig Leaf Tea

Posted by Carolyn (Tulsa, Ok) on 04/18/2012
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Fig leaf tea normalizes blood sugar level, lowers high blood pressure and keeps the arteries clean.

Two teaspoons of dried fig leaves in one cup of boiling water (steeped for 20 minutes) and drank each morning will normalize the blood sugar in a matter of days.

Dried fig leaves are not easy to find in the US, but Lloyd Kretizer at www.landofenfigment.com sells them for $5 a (quart) bag which will last about two months of drinking a cup of tea at breakfast each day. (That's all that's needed.)

General Feedback

Posted by Hil (Studio City, Ca) on 04/03/2012

I would like to thank everyone who responded to my post. It is most gracious of you to take your time and provide me with advice. In answer to some questions, yes, I tried the Mother and faithfully practiced the protocol, yes, I have had my adrenals checked and double checked. I also completely re-read the blood pressure thread and it seems what works for some doesn't work for other. I just have to find it. My offer stands.... $500.00 to you or your favorite charity if I can find my cure. God bless you all

General Feedback

Posted by Mike (Montreal, Quebec) on 04/03/2012

Here is my 2 cents: Hawthorne in capsule form. Valerian also in capsule form.

There is a lot of talk on the internet about the miracle effect of placing a bar of ivory soap between the sheets at night. This would help balance the electrolytes while you are sleeping. What I do is place each bar of soap just behind each of my knee caps and all the sudden I go from hyper to complete relaxation mode in less than 10 seconds. You can experiment by placing the soap bars on various locations of your body but should target the most stressed areas of your body. First do some reading on the internet about all those who were shocked because it worked so well for them. This has been very effective for me for as long I can remember since I to have always had high blood pressure problems because of work related pressure. Above all, high blood pressure will always be aggravating to you if you don't improve your work habits.

General Feedback

Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 04/04/2012 2048 posts

Hil, have you had hair mineral test for metal toxicity??? I have very high Manganese plus abnormally high Arsenic plus a fungal and bacterial infection that often accompanies heavy metal toxicity. My BP has been fluctuating and is today at 186/118, is yours this high or higher???

Kidney malfunction is common hpb indicator. Have you advanced hardening of arteries, this could elevate.

Celery is supposed to be good for lowering hbp, also the amino acid L-Arginine is prescribed.

General Feedback

Posted by Kat (Comox, Bc ) on 04/05/2012

What type of juicer do you use? Need to know good cheap ones so I can afford it, I am seraching for one that presses as well. Is there such a thing? I am dealing with breast cancer and HBP. thanks for the ideas, kat

General Feedback

Posted by Lusabit (Sandakan, Sabah, Malaysia) on 04/05/2012

Hi Kat from Comox, I'm using the cheapest one I found. It's Pensonic Juicer, a local brand in Malaysia. It only cost me around $30, so far still working. Using it since years ago. I attached a link for the juicer images below. Hope this help you. http://www.ezyshop.com.my/store/pic/ezyshop2/item/PJ-37_@_LR_Green.jpg

General Feedback

Posted by Lou (Elk Grove, California) on 04/06/2012

First, I do not need the money, you can donate it to local SPCA or humane society. Next, this is what you do to lower and maintain blood pressure, Eliminate salt, absolutely zero salt diet. Make a tea as follows organic Hibiscus (quater cup), Green Tea (2 tbsp), organic Hawthorne Berries (quater cup), in a tea pot using boiling hot water (filtered). Let it steep for 20 mins, then drink it. You should be able to make approx. 6 cups of tea. Finally, go for a walk for about 30 to 45 mins every day. by the end of second week, you will see normal BP. I did that and mine is 106/72 and it used to be 180/120 and sometimes even higher. Remember, NO SALT.

Magnesium

Posted by Christine (Nottingham, England) on 01/26/2012

My husband has high cholesterol and has been on Bezafibrate for about eighteen years. He could not tolerate statins. He had sleep problems for a number of years. We decided to come off the tablets and he has slept very well since.

His blood pressure has now gone up to around 150/94. His heart reate is irregular and very slow ranging from 38 to 50 beats a min. I know statins and fibarates deplete q10. I have given him supplements. Also Garlic, fish oils, Licethin and natural sterol supplements. I am not so concerned about cholesterol. However I am concerned about Blood pressure and low irregular heart rate. I am afraid of heart failure. Does anyone know whether magnesiun could help? I know some use it for rapid heart problems. Also would hawthorn help? I do not want to make things worse for him. Any suggestion much welcome.

Magnesium

Posted by Khakimo (Atlanta, Usa) on 01/27/2012

I believe the better form of CoQ10 is Ubiquinol, especially as one ages. Ubiquinone is the one you don't want.

Sea Salt

Posted by Bee (New York) on 03/28/2014

Hi, I am weaning off hbp (high blood pressure) medicine and was integrating a few things that were working but now my bp is spiking.. I only went down to 75mil. from 100 and going to go down to 50mil... I want to try the sea salt and water cure but not sure how long that takes or if that would work..

Sea Salt

Posted by Bee (New York, US) on 03/29/2014

Hi Andrea and thanks .. I will do the COQ10 3x a day and get some hemp oil if I can find it..

Unfortunately I have uncontrolled bp and have tried ACV, taurine, olive Leaf, beets, magnesium, sea salt, etc.etc. I am noticing though that lemons might be working better...this is frustrating to say the least. by the way I am 59 Female and I do walk a few times a week but maybe not enough.. my diet is good and the woman in health food store told me to juice and go raw..

Multiple Remedies

Posted by Doug (Country Club Hills, Il) on 11/23/2011
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High Blood Pressure Remedy: Try drinking two 12oz glasses of Hibiscus Tea. Try finding the organic flowers as this is more potent. In addition to the tea, watch your diet and cook with plenty garlic, cayenne pepper, and curry. All of these herbs are excellent for maintaining normal BP levels. Potassium and Magnesium are good too, you can eat a banana every morning with a cup of oatmeal and take the magnesium supplement right before bed. Last but not least, a brisk 30 minute walk 4 days a week will help as well.

General Feedback

Posted by Merilyn (Middleton, Wi) on 11/07/2011

I have been battling High Blood Pressure since a bout of Viral Pnuemonia that the Dr. gave me an antibiotic for. Even though I questioned an antibiotic for a viral infection I was told I needed it to not get sicker(! )and I was sick enough that I did not question further. I have been trying many things to bring it into a less scary range... Anywhere from 145/89 to 210/115 varies this much in the range of the month. I decided I would try a supplement I read about in an online blog that has the extract of 7 flowers with the title of Seven Flowers Extract. Does anyone have anymore information on it? Maybe has used it? I have ordered it and it has no information on the bottle, what little is written on it is in Chinese.

General Feedback

Posted by Cameron (Brisbane, Qld, Australia) on 11/09/2011

I do not know anything about your herbs but Co Enzyme Q10 should be on your list as should Garlic. Both of these are scientifically proven to bring down your blood pressure, take 200mg of CoQ10 and a couple of cloves of raw Garlic each day. You might also look at your stress levels at work or home, alcohol, coffee, caffeine consumption. Have you had a ECG or Stress ECG? How is your heart and circulation? If the simple things above do not get your blood pressure down you should wonder if something else is wrong.

BTW sorr,y about your breath with the Garlic but it does work.

General Feedback

Posted by Frances (Cabarlah, Qld.) on 11/13/2017

There are various types of magnesium supplements. Also, with magnesium chloride 'oil', you would need to spray 8 squirts transdermally to get equivalent 400mg of magnesium.

Homeopathy

Posted by Wendy (..., Canada) on 10/10/2011
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Despite trying to live a holistic organic non processed diet for the last 10 years (it's been a process), you can't always get your spouse on board OR they fall off the wagon ;-( My husband has gone back to eating a lot of fast food and junk this summer as he is travelling on the road abd gone for days at a time. He's stressed with work, 2 businesses etc. Anyhow, he knows better but... Here we are. He's gained 30 lbs and is at 233 and I finally got him to go to the ND. His blood pressure was 170/100. Highest its ever been ;-( So of course diet has to be a 180 but in the meantime the ND gave him a tincture to bring it town right away while he works on his diet. 3 days on the tincture and its 134/85 LOL If I read it correctly from the bottle its made up of crataegus monogyna 200 ml, ravwolfia serpentina 50ml (PLEASE CHECK SPELLING ON THESE IT'S HARD TO READ HIS WRITING!! )

After examining MY HUSBAND this is what he prescribed FOR HIM: he has instructed him to take 5ml daily until BP is 135/85 then every other day. (we have added in CoQ10, msm, bcomplex vitamin, ______ vitamin c, and fulvic-humic acid minerals, a good fish oil) - ALL but the Coq10 the kids and I take regularly and my husband takes sporadically 'when he remembers' but NOW he's taking them faithfully) Anyhow I will post back with updates in the weeks to come, but this is looking promising. While sometimes WE KNOW EXACTLY what we have to do and SHOULD be doing, sometimes it is not that easy and it takes something drastic to put us back on the right path ;-) This tincture is IMO "THE" reason his blood pressure has dropped drastically in 3 days. I would not recommend exploring this without the help of a practitioner but it's something you can take with you, research etc. when you go!!

Diuretics

Posted by Judy (Denver, Co) on 07/12/2011
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Both my parents were put on medication for HBP but neither was given a diuretic and their ankles never swelled. My ankles never swelled until I was put on HBP and a diuretic, For years I restricted my salt intake to try to keep BP down below 140/80. My mother had advancing dementia and came to live with me, and BP went up and I finally broke down and went to a Dr. Any doctor I've gone to has never said a word about sodium intake. I just get a pill to get rid of water they assume is retained because of salt.

I've had allergies since I was little. Late 80's I went to allergist and was allergic to 40% of what I was tested for. At the same time I was going to a weight-loss clinic and asked for a vegetarian diet and was told if I wanted to lose weight I had to eat a lot of protien - calorie restriction was approx 500 cal a day - and 1 1/2 ts salt a day. That much salt didn't make sense and I didn't do it. My BP shot up. High protien diet makes you urinate more and without the salt you excrete all your nutrients - and BP goes up. When I started using more salt, my BP went down. (Also got so constipated I felt horrible) This was years before I went on BP med. I blacked out twice and actually gained a little weight. Allergist said there are people that can live on 500 cal a day and never lose weight. I've also had my blood looked at under an electron microscope and the thing they've said, "You have lots and lots of allergies."

About 5 years ago I took L-arginine and L-ornithine along with hawthorn to give me added strength to work in my huge garden in spring and my BP went to 105/55. I quit the worst drug-Benicar (that raised blood sugar 30 pts and caused diabetes-dr didn't care - just an excuse to give give more drugs). BP still okay. Took nefidipine and HCTZ another month, and quit nefidipine and HCTZ for three days, then cut little tiny HCTZ in half and took it. Within a hr I was so dizzy I had to hold onto something so I wouldn't fall. Within 2 more hours my ankles swelled and my BP shot up 20 pts. (One dr told me that's just a side-effect - Huh?)

I don't get rashes, hives, swollen tongue (to anything be it drug, food, perfumes) and because of that doctors don't want to think I could be having an allergic reaction -- therefore I've got some other problem they need to "treat" or I'm taking some herb or nutrient that's causing it, and it's all my fault.

Quite a few years ago I went on two three-week-long juice fasts and dropped over 50 lbs. each time. I suppose lots of people can say that. I did it to get rid of toxins (drs don't believe in toxins either) and to test myself for food allergies and watched for sudden weight gain. With the juicing my gray hairs started growing back to natural blond and wrinkles went away.

Through the years I've come to the conclusion that I have an absorbtion problem and when I get cleaned out I can absorb my nutrients again. I'm beginning to think water pills not only cause some people to excrete sodium and potassium, but other nutrients as well. If you don't retain water because of sodium, what do they do besides overwork the kidneys and maybe do more harm than good? I've always thought they should be a temporary fix, not permanant, unless you have congestive heart failure but I've never had a dr suggest I do. They've never helped me get rid of "water retention" or lower BP.

I guess I'm writing this to rant a little because of problems I'm having now in the hands of a dr again, and to see if any of the learned people that know more about nutrition than I do think this makes sense.